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timahall wrote:

Is there people out there who don't think Somewhere Like The Moon is good?


I vaguely remember back in the olden days, the fanclub did a poll where people voted for their favourite Pulp song and that one got the least votes. Whilst I don't think that it's the best song on the album, it still has its fair share of qualities. 



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It's a bit too insipid but it does have its charms. But it should not be on the lp ahead of HisnHers or Seconds or Street Lites.


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It just seemed to get a bit of flak but nothing sounds like it. Street Lites could've certainly have been on there instead.

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Here's one: whilst all are good, Room 29 is the most worthwhile of Jarvis' post-Pulp albums.

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Here's another: "Room 29" does absolutely nothing for me.

I have tried...

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Ian wrote:

Here's another: "Room 29" does absolutely nothing for me.

I have tried...


 Ditto. I struggle to get to the end of it.

The first Jarvis album from 2006 is by far my favourite thing he's done post-Pulp.



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I do not like Babies. Think the other songs on the Sister's EP are a lot better, especially Seconds.

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This Is Hardcore is the best Pulp album (best album)
Joyriders, Pencil Skirt, and Underwear are all awful

-- Edited by Ste on Saturday 28th of December 2019 03:37:09 AM

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Ste wrote:

This Is Hardcore is the best Pulp album (best album)
Joyriders, Pencil Skirt, and Underwear are all awful

-- Edited by Ste on Saturday 28th of December 2019 03:37:09 AM


I disagree with pretty much all of this. This Is Hardcore, whilst I love it, is my least favourite of the Island albums (and I prefer Separations too). And Underwear I could easily single out as one of the best songs of the entire 1990s. The mood, the lyrics and the absolutely divine instrumental passages. That song is Pulp to me. Joyriders I also adore, and to a lesser extent, Pencil Skirt.


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timahall wrote:
Ste wrote:

This Is Hardcore is the best Pulp album (best album)
Joyriders, Pencil Skirt, and Underwear are all awful

-- Edited by Ste on Saturday 28th of December 2019 03:37:09 AM


I disagree with pretty much all of this. This Is Hardcore, whilst I love it, is my least favourite of the Island albums (and I prefer Separations too). And Underwear I could easily single out as one of the best songs of the entire 1990s. The mood, the lyrics and the absolutely divine instrumental passages. That song is Pulp to me. Joyriders I also adore, and to a lesser extent, Pencil Skirt.

Tend to agree too. On Pencil Skirt, for years I thought it DC's weakest moment, but over time I've come to rate it and Sorted and Something Changed are the two tracks I've become bored with. And if I was choosing, say, five songs that were emblematic of Pulp, there may well be room in there for Underwear. Maybe. Certainly in a Showcase Ten, or a gateway playlist to introduce a newbie to the joys of Pulp.  



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superchob wrote:

Good thread. I think my most unpopular opinion would be that, however fun the reunion was, and it was, the band really ended that night at Magna. Their history in the true sense ended that night.

The reunion was wish fulfillment and I went rather nuts, but the sense of longing to see them play one last time has now been sated and I miss that sensation of longing. Had a similar sensation when Portishead finally released Third.

Also, whilst it was the first reunion gig I saw and I was soooo excited, the Blur gig at Hyde Park eclipsed the atmosphere at Pulp's...


 I went to several pre-hiatus gigs, several Jarvis solo gigs & several reunion gigs.

The Hyde Park one was easily the least-good! Not just the atmosphere (agreed nowhere near as good as Blur's was), but the performance too..I mean, MAYBE I was getting some phasing issues from the PA if I want to be kind, but Jarvis in particular seemed badly out of time. The gong hits on TIH just seemed random!

Magna was a superb, almost faultless show, but I don't agree it was the proper end. Because the second nite at Brixton was one of the best shows I've ever seen of any group.



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superchob wrote:

Maybe. Certainly in a Showcase Ten, or a gateway playlist to introduce a newbie to the joys of Pulp.


I'm sure something similar's almost definitely been done before, but that'd be a great topic, almost as revealing as this one to our varying tastes, and Pulp's variety

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I don't know if this is an unpopular opinion or not, fascinated to find out.
I vastly prefer the original c.2000 demo of After You to the released version.

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Me too. The reunion version is more like a remix of the original, perhaps unsurprising given it was produced by an electro/dance musician.



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Same here, the released version sound like a badly produced dance track. Pulp never crossed that line before. I never listen to it. the 99 one has that melancholic feel that is missing on the 2013 one.

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Jarvis appeared to be on a roll around 99/2000. A pity it was only partially captured by We Love Life. I wonder if the band played all the demo'd songs from 99-2000 to Scott Walker and he helped whittle them down.



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I like that idea

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Please keep in mind I'm from Texas and don't get much Pulp over here so I don't know if these opinions are unpopular or not, but here goes:

Their best live concert was Auto Festival which features the best ever renditions (studio or live) of Happy Endings, Babies, Lyndhurst Grove

Live extended version of Live Bed Show is 10X better than studio Live Bed Show

His N Her's was their best album but needed better post-production. Nearly every song sounds better played live than the studio version.

The Fear and Sylvia are top-10 Pulp songs

This is Hardcore starts of great and runs out of steam

Go easy on me!

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Their best live concert was Auto Festival which features the best ever renditions (studio or live) of Happy Endings, Babies, Lyndhurst Grove


 That performance of Happy Endings was monumental. So charged when they really believed it was an ending. And it was an ending really.

I like Slyvia but for me it's just a little too throwaway.

I have been suprised at how many people don't rate Hardcore, that's probably my main takeaway from this thread!



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Dont be mad at me, but i really dont like Common People, its so long and they play only 3 notes again and again and again. This is mine unpopular opinion

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Hardcore has grown on me lately. Not an amazing start but a great climax. Happy Endings at Auto was fucking emotional, when I heard it in the soundcheck - I knew it was going to be the end for Pulp, Ian was with me at the time and it was like - wow I cant beleive they are playing that. It was also pretty funny walking INTO the soundcheck too, unchallenged at first - kids running around the place, whilst they were all on stage pissing about. Was a good memory.

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You couldnt put out the This is Hardcore cover art these days. 



-- Edited by cutcopy on Friday 15th of May 2020 01:57:58 AM

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Someone like the moon and Happy Endings both make me cringe. I get this kind of embarrassed feeling for them. Not sure what that is. 



-- Edited by cutcopy on Friday 15th of May 2020 03:45:21 AM

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