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Listened to Slush a few times on You Tube now and have to say I'm really liking it. Angela isn't a bad song but it does seem a strange choice to publicise the album with. Still, giving something away free may actually attract more interest than releasing a single. I'm sure there's a plan there somewhere, it is just very well hidden.

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"Angela" reminds me of another song, something from the 60's or maybe 70's, and probably American... but I can't quite put my finger on it.

Anyone else think the tune sounds familiar?



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There's a bit in Angela (1.38 - 1.55) which sounds very much like one of The Young Knives songs (unsure which without listening) which is strange as they have said themselves that they are influenced to some degree by Pulp.

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Angela isn't a song, just a guitar riff. I'm so disapointed...

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say what you will about 'Angela' (my complaint would be that the vocals at the end seem a bit thin when compared to the rawer live takes from the summer of 2008), but, it's actually pretty good old rock and roll production.  and this has been a sound that Jarvis has never been able to get quite right.  i think that 70s fuzz of the main riff is great, i think the percussion (the instrument that usually derails any revivalists' attempt at a Nuggets-era sound) sounds fresh and analogue.  and the handclaps;baby, i'll never get sick of handclaps. 

i think that the vocals are pulled back which is nice (the levels, not the performace... which is weak.)  i think that producers are always too eager to put Jarvis' vocal way up front, like Eddie Vedder, instead of mixing them deeper into the song (like Exile On Main Street.)

i would say that this would be a great indicator that Girls Like It Too is going to be a super fun summer single.  With that chorus and that tambourine done right (and not like a warmed up producer's take on an His 'n' Hers leftover) it could be my favourite Jarvis release since TIH - the single. 

oh wait, it's not on the album.

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I've been a Jarvis/Pulp fan for fifteen years and sadly I have to say 'Angela' is pretty poor - ever since I heard it on the Culture Show, I've just disliked it.

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I like it, but it is definitely a throw-a-way song. Hopefully it'll be the poorest song on the album.

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I don't get how anyone can like the song!
It doesn't work live 'cos the disjointed rhythm is impossible to dance to, & by Jarvis' standards it's an extremely poor lyric.
That's Further Complications completely killed off then.
I was with a few friends when it first came on the Culture Show, & they instantly dismissed it as a pile of crap.

Oh, & the backing vocals REALLY suck.
What the hell the label are doing even letting this out, let alone promoting it, I don't know. Maybe it's a credit crunch thing & they're trying to kill Jarvis' career so they don't have to finance any more studio time?

For me, this is far & away the worst song he's ever done.
At least with Silence the lyric made sense!

And axing GLIT, it's as tho' he's TRYING to piss us off.
GLIT is the new Cuckoo, then? Oh great, then someone can get hold of it & sit on it.
I think I'm gonna be ill.

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James wrote:

And axing GLIT, it's as tho' he's TRYING to piss us off.
GLIT is the new Cuckoo, then? Oh great, then someone can get hold of it & sit on it.
I think I'm gonna be ill.




Jarvis said he is going to release every song recently recorded, didn't he? I think that's the most important information for us - the fans - and for Jarvis it's a huge step forward in letting go his legendary perfectionism to "get a song right". Let's hope the days of rejected recording sessions are over once and for all. wink

 



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Jesus christ, it's just a fucking song, it's a rock song, it's meant to be throwaway. I don't know why everyone on here is so up-in-arms about it. It's just fun. It's like when people slag off Vicar in a Tutu by The Smiths just because it's not How Soon Is Now. It's a song, it's fun, it'll fit in on the album.

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Slightly worrying though that nobody really seems to like it...and he certainly won't be winning any new fans with it either. Like James said, anyone I have shown the Culture Show clip to has not liked it one bit.

If it was an obviously "fun" little rock song then I don't think anyone would really be up in arms about it...but I don't think it does sound fun. It's just really boring, and pretty badly done by anybody's standards. I think people are also worried that it will harm new or casual listeners opinion of him.

Credit where it's due though, I did wake up briefly for the little guitar solo in the middle, but quickly fell asleep again after.

Still looking forward to the album though. Have liked pretty much everything else I have heard live.


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But I LIKE Vicar In A Tutu! (:
& there is now way a rock song should be throwaway.
Good rock songs are listened to repeatedly 10, 20, 30, 40 years later.

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i quite like it. its not pulp but i don't think anyone expected it to be anyway

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Various places are now showing the following tracklist:

1. Angela
2. Pilchard
3. Leftovers
4. Homewrecker!
5. Hold Still
6. Fuckingsong
7. Caucasian Blues
8. Slush
9. You're In My Eyes (Discosong)

Sources: Amazon, Play.com


So it looks like the title track and 'I Never Said I Was Deep' are not going to be included after all.

Of the new tracks I have heard so far 'I Never Said I Was Deep' and 'Girls Like It Too' are probably my favourites, so I'm a bit disappointed that neither are going to be included.

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If those two tracks are not included, jarvis is making a big mistake. I mean, Angela is shit, we all know it, and those two tracks could make up for it.

Girls like it too not on the record = We can dance again all over again...

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Will wrote:
Of the new tracks I have heard so far 'I Never Said I Was Deep' and 'Girls Like It Too' are probably my favourites, so I'm a bit disappointed that neither are going to be included.

Allow me to quote myself from two months ago.

Fuss Free wrote:
"He'll probably take the songs you already like and find a way to muck them up

Jarvis/Pulp fans are like battered housewives.



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Jesus, this album seems to have further complications the closer we get to the release.
So it looks like the US edition has 11 tracks but not the UK...as Will said, leaving 'Girls Like It Too' off is disappointing, but dropping 'Never Said I Was Deep' is just careless.
What the feck is he playing at?

The only thing I can come up with is that he wants to keep the flow of tracks filled with grooves and guitar riffs...which means stuff that don't seem to have much substance (Angela and FuckingSong). But then Slush, DiscoSong and Leftovers suggest he's putting a more sensitive side on there too...I dunno.

I suppose we'll know for sure once the music monthlies come out soon although you'd think Rough Trade or Jarvis would have confirmed the track-listing by now rather than us relying on online CD distributors.

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A couple of early (brief) reviews of the album and sampler respectively.


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Jarvis Cocker, Further Complications

Official release date: May 19th, 2009

The verdict: Though Jarvis Cocker's debut solo album sounded more or less exactly like his work as the front man of Pulp, his second record finds the lanky, newly bearded Brit rocking out more than at any other point in his 30-year career. Appropriately enough, the album is produced by Steve Albini, a man best known for his work capturing the raw intensity of Nirvana, PJ Harvey, and the Pixies. Though the shift to more aggressive material is hard to ignore, Jarv is still Jarv half the record deals with some rather severe sexual frustration, and one of the album's highlights is a cheeky, incredibly self-deprecating ballad titled "I Never Said I Was Deep." Similarly, fans of the grim yet relentlessly horny grooves of Pulp's This Is Hardcore album are advised to skip directly to "You're In My Eyes (Discosong)," an epic disco ballad that is equal parts romance and sleaze.




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First Impressions: Jarvis Cocker, Further Complications
by Staff | 04.20.2009

Jarvis Cocker
Further Complications
Rough Trade
Release Date: May 19th


Partial Tracklisting:

Angela
Pilchard
Leftovers
Hold Still
Fuckingsong
Further Complications
Youre In My Eyes (Discosong)


First Impressions:

- From the start of this sampler of songs from Jarvis Cockers upcoming album, its obvious hes feeling ready to rock, with tunes piled high with catchy electric guitar riffs.

- With the exception of the words 'Oh you pilchard' 'Pilchard' is mostly instrumental and one of the highlights of the sampler, with a driving beat and electric guitars with enough trippy twang to come off like a punked-up surf rock tune.

- Cocker slows things down for a funky profession of his desire in Leftovers. Though it sometimes is a little funny to hear a 45-year-old man confess he wants to be someones teddy bear and is in the mood to get cuddly, theres still a sexiness to Cockers jagged enunciation when he says, I told you twice: I want to be your lover.

- Where Leftovers was the tender part of desire, Fuckingsong is the flip side and exactly what its title suggests. I will never get to touch you / So wrote this song instead, Cocker snarls out, followed by suggestive lyrics and a pulsating rhythm that is actually kind of hot.


Key Tracks:

Pilchard, Fuckingsong, Youre In My Eyes (Discosong)


Predictions:

Jarvis Cocker is great about enunciating every possible word, which sometimes is distracting when you can perfectly hear lyrics as silly as that teddy bear line in Leftovers. But those hiccups are minor, and overall, these tracks from his upcoming Further Complications are funky jams that show off the Britpop legends edgy, rock and roll side all while dripping with a kind of dorky-but-seductive factor (especially on the disco-inspired Youre In My Eyes).




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here's another one (i can't remember where i got this now):

Preview of Jarvis Cocker's Further Complications

Further_complicationWhen we last left Mr. Cocker, he was kicking our ass last July at his Music Hall of B-Burg show. In that time frame, he was working on his second album with producer Steve Albini (Pixie's Surfer Rosa) at the helm.

The result is Further Complications, which will be release on Rough Trade/Beggar's Banquet on May 19. I got the advance, and you should expect some very different rock sounds from the former Pulp frontman.

Here's a track by track breakdown.

1. Further Complications: On the whole, the album is a more ballsy rock album. His Jarvis album was smooth, sexy and had lot of instrumentation.  In the title track, it sets up that his voice has more force and the music more stripped down to basic drums, guitar and bass.

2. Angela: He played this song  at the Music Hall show. It's a rough quickie with a glammy, T-Rex  guitar part. This is a good representation of what I think the album sounds like.

3. Pilchard: More driving, wacky guitars with a pounding pace. Jarvis doesn't necessarily sing on this one, just moans and breathes quickly to match the quick tempo.

4. Leftovers: Time to slow things down with the six-minute song, that's more akin to the first album and some of his Pulp work. His vocals are more along his normal style --  smooth and seductive. "I still want to love you while we still have the flesh on our bones" is one of the choice lines on this great song. I love six-minute songs.

Jarvis 5. I Never Said I Was Deep: I wonder if the title of this song is a statement about Jarvis himself. He has a female soul choir backing him up on this one. This is his take on the Rolling Stones style from the late 60/early 70s. This soul song builds up to a big finish. It's interesting that he's tackling this style of song.

6. Homewrecker!: Back to rock, you even find a deep baritone sax on this classic 50s rock track.  It's a dirty sounding tune with the various horns blowing over each other.

7. Hold Still: Another simple seductive track with Jarvis putting the moves on his lady.

8. Fuckingsong: He also road tested this song last year. The guitars are back in full force. Even a year later, I still remember him strutting around on stage and going through his various poses. You even get a little "WOO!" thrown in the song. The guy is a British sex machine.

9. Caucasian Blues: Maybe a playful take on Cocksucking Blues?  If anything, this album is definitely more guitar heavy than his last. While he was a master of 90s British Pop, this one kicks out the jams, and on this one, he screams his way through it.

10. Slush: This one is slow plodding song, also clocking in at 6+ minutes. Even the title makes you feel like it's grinding to a halt. The first half takes it time, then eventually you hear the gospel choir and it becomes bombastic.

11. You're In My Eyes (Discosong): This ain't no a party, but this IS a disco, It's Jarvis getting freaky with the 8-minute closer. It's not a party anthem at any stretch of the imagination, but you do get the sense that this is his Bee Gees song. You hear that wackacha-wackacha guitars and the disco drums through the whole thing.

In all, it's not a consistent album, but you get the feeling he's trying on different hats. Angela is the one people will take to because it's a catchy track. There's not a track that sounds like the brilliant "Don't Let Him Waste Your Time", but then again, there shouldn't be. I do know that the Further Complications should be great to hear live.



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Amazon is now listing this as the tracklisting for the vinyl release (they'll revise the cd listing soon, i imagine):

1. Further Complications
2. Angela
3. Pilchard
4. Leftovers
5. I Never Said I Was Deep
6. Homewrecker
7. Hold Still
8. Fuckingsong
9. Caucasian Blues
10. Slush
11. You're In My Eyes (Discosong)

looks like no Girls Like It Too.  a stellar b-side for the single, one hopes.


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I have a bad feeling that the 11 track version is for the US edition (Two ''bonus tracks'') while in Europe (or UK/Ireland at least) we'll get the truncated album. The fact the vinyl version has the full 11 songs, given his love of the medium, makes me more pessimistic.

I hope I'm wrong cos 'Further Complications' is pretty good (from 'live' listens - I also really enjoyed the acoustic performance from last week) and probably the strongest of the heavier new songs while 'I Never Said I Was Deep' is just fantastic.

At least the two real songs of genius that we know of, 'In My Eyes' and 'Leftovers' look to have survived any potential culling.

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--- Breaking News! --- Breaking News! --- Breaking News! ---

You can listen to Slush, I Never Said I Was Deep and Discosong via hypemachine:

http://hypem.com/list/3827

The production of the songs sounds absolutely terrific. Albini seems to be the perfect match for Jarvis.

OMG, there's even a choir on Discosong! biggrinbiggrinbiggrin

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Even more breaking news, the album has leaked! Mate of mine got it on his computer and it contains 11 tracks.

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yeah, but that confirms no Girls Like It Too....oh well

I Never said i was deep is marvelous. If that song fits, Girls like it too would have fit too.

its really an early 70s sounding album, in the vein of T Rex and Bowie. Doesnt seem that strong on first listen really, hope it grows after a few listens.


-- Edited by andy on Wednesday 22nd of April 2009 09:18:51 AM

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