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Probably right Andy.
The tone of the piece is very friendly though, initially I thought it was his latest blog on myspace.

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yeah its a weird press relased but kinda original. Anyway, Jarvis is adored by journalists and this wont make them change their mind.

I'll try and get my hands on the french promo coming march 25th to review it for you all, though last time i had a hard time getting it. :D

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Graham Coxon's next album is out the week before (11th May). What a great two weeks they look set to be.

I think The Rakes release an album the month before aswell (not sure if anyone else is fans of either of them!?)

I'm really looking forward to Jarvis new album, I like the thought that it will be pulled in the direction of Fat Children!

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Eamonn wrote:

Great stuff FussFree. Not sure where you digged that out from but very interesting indeed...




I got the press release the same way I got photos of Justine Frishman's wedding. I'm connected... to the internet.

 



-- Edited by Fuss Free on Saturday 14th of March 2009 04:33:42 AM

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So this album is "Jarvis Cocker" instead of simply "Jarvis"? Interesting.

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But the "Jarvis" record was also called "The Jarvis Cocker record". Confusing...

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Well due to computer problems I ain't been around much so this is WELCOME NEWS! Great stuff. Brightened my day. Might head to Troxy.

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haha even the cover was kind of funny Jarvis is still sexy as hell.

Can't wait for the album.

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speaking of the art work..this picture is quite funny to. And a bit weird.
http://www.acrylicafternoons.com/images2/adjarvistroxy.jpg

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"The record wont feature all of these songs (that would make it too long) but we will have a finalised running order available from March 26th onwards if you are interested. (+ you can hear all the songs then, too)."

But where Jarvis, but where?

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There is a review here of the sampler.

http://www.uncut.co.uk/blog/index.php?blog=6&p=1124&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1

I was expecting some new tracks to appear on Myspace or something today. Perhaps there have been some erm... further complications.

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Remember those notes were intended for the press, he mentioned nothing about Myspace etc.


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weed wrote:

There is a review here of the sampler.



The jist of which appears to be: "an improvement over the first solo record, but there's still something missing".

I'd like to hear a track.

 



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The Idiot wrote:

Remember those notes were intended for the press, he mentioned nothing about Myspace etc.



Oh yeah... I must admit I had forgotten that!

The review isn't that great but thought I'd link to it as it does have a few intresting details. I'm really itching to hear something from the album now.

 



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Yeah this sounds promising at least. Cept maybe angela as an opener, uhm...




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andy wrote:

Yeah this sounds promising at least. Cept maybe angela as an opener, uhm...



Is "Angela" a common name in England? It strikes me as a very American name.

As a result, I've interpreted "Angela" as a pastiche of American-style rock n' roll. Am I totally off-base?



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The Idiot wrote:

Remember those notes were intended for the press, he mentioned nothing about Myspace etc.




Indeed. The press got it probably.



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I wouldn't say the name Angela is uncommon enough to make this song particularly directed elsewhere.  It seems more like a continuation of his penchant for fairly unglamorous names... Nicky, Deborah, Julie, etc.

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I wouldn't take a ''sampler'' as great indication of the album track-listing or the order of songs (except ''In My Eyes'' being the closing song, I've always thought that will be the case).
No surprises that he lauds that song & ''Told You Twice'', they're probably the two stand-out songs of the new material he's already previewed live.

Interesting that 'Hold Still' is said to be excellent (though he doesn't go into great depth) and Pilchards is an instrumental only.

He's a very good journo, and I see what he's saying about the new record attempting to show a harder, more straight-rock side to Jarvis and how this will invariably meet with mixed results but I think there's enough quality pop moments (Girls Like It Too, Disco Song, Never Said I Was Deep) to suggest mixing it up can be fruitful...

I just wonder if we will hear anything about a single coming out. I imagine sales of his debut were really hampered by nothing to trailer the album. Don't Let Him Waste Your Time didn't appear til two months after. It would be stupid to repeat that again, if he wants his ''new sound'' to get the exposure that it appears to merit.

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I was expecting 'Girls Like It Too' to be the lead single from the album but you'd normally annouce the single release date with the album release date. Having no singles from the album would save money. What with the demise of Woolies and the way the industry is at the moment perhaps it's quite a sensible paln.

but we would lose out on potential B-sides.

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But if the album arrives without any song to promote it, it becomes in danger of being forgotten about quickly. A song such as Girls Like It Too has immense potential for radio play. Leaving aside long-term fans, albums are always bought by the strength of what the floating punter has heard and seen on radio/tv/online which first and foremost is the lead-single. A strong first single generally dictates whether an album lives or dies.

Now Jarvis is probably too long in the tooth to care too much either way and I imagine one of the perks of him being on Rough trade is that they give him free reign to do pretty much what he wants. But I want him to be popular. If only for the reason that the likelihood of hitherto unreleased Jarvis/Pulp material (live DVDs, reissues etc) is far greater when there's a market waiting to be tapped into rather than just a clutch of geeks on pulp.gb.com

I suppose the other aspect is the video that has to be made for a single. Given Jarvis' film-making interests and the artistic success of most Pulp/Jarvis promos, you imagine he'd come up with some sort of quirky three minute story within the budget given to him.

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i suspect there will be a single a couple of months down the line for that purpose the same as last time around. Although I think it's daft to put the album out and then the single I guess it's the way it's going to be. The only real reason to put a single out is an excuse get on the telly and magazines in order to promote the album.

I'm quite happy with Jarvis being at a comfortable 'cult' status. If he was to become really popular again I think it might be a bit crap. Intellegent music lovers never have a bad thing to say about him but the rest of the general public couldn't really give a toss and I kinda like it that way!

I do a spot of DJing once in a while and about a year ago I was gutted because i put 'Fat Children' on and it cleared the dancefloor!

Pulp songs always go down a storm tho... as soon as i get hold of 'Girls Like It Too' I am going to give that a whirl!



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Business-wise, I think it makes sense to release the single -after- the album. Any album Jarvis puts out is going to have strong early sales, especially by "indie-label" standards. By releasing the single a few months after the album, the label then re-invigorates sales after the initial wave of excitement (and curiosity) has run its course.

In other news...

A little bird told me that Jarvis was back in Chicago last week to review the final mixes, and possibly do some replacement vocals.

And on that note, if anyone else wants to record with Steve Albini, his studio goes for a mere $500 a day, and his personal day rate is a preposterously low $650. You're average IT consultant charges more than Steve Albini.

By the way, this quote summarizes why I think Albini and Jarvis are a good pairing:

Albini: "I am convinced that any decent art (including records) is made with a measure of disregard for its audience. Good art is an almost entirely selfish pursuit, in that the artist is doing something unique to him, and any outside perspective (this "objective" one) would be ignorant and unable to judge it completely. Having seen many bands go through the process, I am convinced that making concessions to the imaginary audience (or any "objective" considerations) almost always weakens the record.

Good records are made by freakishly-obsessed people, driven to do what only they can do, and their thinking and processes are often "objectively" wrong. Objective measures are at best a benchmark of mediocrity and shouldn't be in consideration."


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I think there's more than enough time for a pre-album single to be released.

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Hallo everybody! (It's my first contribution to the forum)

I think there is a single on the way, because there are photos from a video shoot on flickr:

http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=Jarvis%20Cocker%20video%20shoot&w=all&s=int

Looks quite interesting - perhaps a little bit like the second "Babies" video.

Would really like to have this JARVIS COCKER name sculpture as a bedside table:

Merkin


PS: Jarvis needs a proper website. Now!

-- Edited by MerkinMuffley on Sunday 29th of March 2009 07:19:39 PM

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