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Watching The Culture Show interview, Jarvis seemed to imply he had gone solo, not out of any overwhelming desire, but so as not to impact the life of the other members of Pulp.  And that he will make records when he is ready, and whomever else is available can be on them.


Given that Candida, Steve and Hawley were all on stage at Koko, Jarvis solo is Pulp mark V.  I suspect Mark wasn't going to record/tour with Hawley (seemed to be some friction there, though that is just speculation).  The only real outcast is Nick.


So Jarvis is Pulp!


 



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And nothing's changed, except the name on the album cover (and perhaps certain contractual obligations).

-- Edited by josta59 at 16:49, 2006-11-21

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yeah, its pulp. But really, when you see them onstage... its not

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I'd love it if you could expound on that, since in the States I can only see little YouTube videos.

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you know, just the general feeling you get when you see an act, especially a band. there's an atmosphere, somehting in air that makes you think "yeah, its pulp". now i just see Jarvis with a bunch of session musician, even though steve is here. Jarvis doesnt mean it as much as he meant what he sung live with pulp. i thought the record was full of pulp feelings, even little. but live, its another jarvis, another steve i see onstage. they're not Pulp jarvis and pulp steve. not that its bad.. its just not the same.

-- Edited by andy at 19:26, 2006-11-21

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Interesting; thanks.

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Does anyone else here think that Jarvis dropping the "Pulp" name is more to do with marketing than anything else?

If this were a "Pulp" album, I suspect it would be recieving even less publicity than "We Love Life" - but somehow as "Jarvis" it is recieving about as much publicity as "This is Hardcore" (despite it being a much weaker album :p).

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I hadn't thought about it that way, but it sort of makes sense. Who knows?

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theonewhothrowsthelastbookonthefire wrote:


Does anyone else here think that Jarvis dropping the "Pulp" name is more to do with marketing than anything else?

If this were a "Pulp" album, I suspect it would be recieving even less publicity than "We Love Life" - but somehow as "Jarvis" it is recieving about as much publicity as "This is Hardcore" (despite it being a much weaker album :p).




In comparison, I suppose a Noel album would generate more interest than an Oasis album, and a Damon album would generate more interest than a Blur album.  Though the Thom Yorke album wasn't anywhere near as acknowledged as a Radiohead release, maybe down to his lower individual profile.


It's an easy trick to pull off once, but a second solo album would probably be little different to an eighth (or tenth depending on your point of view) Pulp album.


I don't believe Pulp will ever appear again; it's more likely that Jarvis will raid the back catalogue on future tours.  And with 2/3rds of the last incarnation of Pulp onstage at Koko (was Hawley a proper member?), I suspect that's the future.



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theonewhothrowsthelastbookonthefire wrote:


Does anyone else here think that Jarvis dropping the "Pulp" name is more to do with marketing than anything else?

If this were a "Pulp" album, I suspect it would be recieving even less publicity than "We Love Life" - but somehow as "Jarvis" it is recieving about as much publicity as "This is Hardcore" (despite it being a much weaker album :p).




 


Jarvis dropping the ''Pulp'' name is more to do with the fact that it's not a Pulp record.


I agree with your second point - apart from it being ''much weaker'' than Hardcore.



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What has happened to Nick? How come he isn't joining Jarvis for the solo stuff?

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What has happened to Nick? How come he isn't joining Jarvis for the solo stuff?



People seem to be having a problem differentiating between Pulp and solo-Jarvis. Steve is in ''his new band'' I would imagine because of all the other members of Pulp, he is Jarvis' closest ally in terms of musical taste and thinking. Plus, bass generally being the more perfunctory part of a traditional vox-guitar-bass-drums- keyboard combo, it made sense to get Mackey involved.


As for Candida and Hawley, the former has only helped out on one song for the extra synthy bits live (From A To I) and a tv performance of Fat Chizzlers while Richard's involvement will end after the Roundhouse or Razzmatazz gig next month, unless Jarvis writess another record.



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As for Candida and Hawley, the former has only helped out on one song for the extra synthy bits live (From A To I) and a tv performance of Fat Chizzlers while Richard's involvement will end after the Roundhouse or Razzmatazz gig next month, unless Jarvis writess another record.



Candida is probably only going to just make the odd guest appearance.  I didn't notice her being credited on the sleeve notes, so maybe she doesn't want to do the recording.


I would be surprised if Hawley isn't involved more.  He has been with Jarvis for about five years now including Relaxed Muscle.  Obviously he has his own solo work, but should the two not coincide, I see him working a lot with Jarvis.



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That doesn't really answer me, and I fully appreciate that Jarvis and Pulp are not the same thing.


I didn't mean to imply that he should be the drummer, but as he has worked with Jarvis before it just may have made sense.


I probaly would have been understood better if I asked:


Has Nick got disagreements with Jarvis?, Is he currently in a band?



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ArrGee wrote:

In comparison, I suppose a Noel album would generate more interest than an Oasis album, and a Damon album would generate more interest than a Blur album.  Though the Thom Yorke album wasn't anywhere near as acknowledged as a Radiohead release, maybe down to his lower individual profile.





I don't think that a "Damon" or "Noel" solo record would get more interest than one by Blur or Oasis. Though, yes Damon has had a mildly good solo career, it wasn't as "Damon".

I think Jarvis is of a rare breed in being publicly bigger than his band. I think artists that really stand out from their band are quite rare. Damon Albarn certainly doesn't have as many fans as Blur, though Jarvis probably has more young, indie-head fans than Pulp. So going solo probably makes sense for him, or those who want to make some money from him.

He came 4th in NME's "Cool List" for god's sake.

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Has Nick got disagreements with Jarvis?


Is he currently in a band?




I'm not aware of any major disagreement between Nick & Jarvis.  There may have been some musical differences.  I sense Nick wanted Pulp to continue in the commercial vein of Different Class but Jarvis had other ideas.  However, Nick was never a malcontent. 


Nick plays drums in a band called Pollinates.  They play Shepherd's Bush Empire on Wednesday. 


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tensions between mark and richard, between nick and jarvis


arg, ive lived to this day thinking they were not just like any other band



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I imagine it's not much different from tensions within families and friendships. We always hurt the ones we love.

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If Jarvis makes another record, I hope Candida gets more involved. The only downside of the new album for me is the same as my main critisism of WLL; not enough synth! Although obviously this is way more forgiveable for Jarvis solo.

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