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ArrGee


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Maybe not a so-called classic like Smile (never heard it so don't know), but there must be at least two albums worth of material (probably more) around that never made it onto record.


MotU dragged most of the unattached Fire stuff together (as have the umpteen compilations since), but there was a lot of stuff pre-It, which probably never got recorded, though may have made a fairly decent record, given the samples from the Peel Sessions.


The other period is the period between Hardcore and We Love Life where a number of songs were recorded in 1999, yet never saw the light of day.  Toss in all the little one offs like My Body May Die from that period, and it makes an album of sorts. Even for Hits they were supposed to have done more than just the Miners' Strike, maybe another couple of tracks.



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There was a website listing most (if not all) Pulp gigs and there were a bunch of songs played live before It was released, most of which I never even knew existed. I'm familiar with all the officially released albums (still have to buy Sperations and Freaks) and I've got Sudan Gerri on my PC, though there are still a lot of compilations and obscure B sides I'm yet to hear.

What's Smile anyway? Was that released previous to It or after?

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ArrGee is referring to Smile, the ambitious Beach Boys album that Brian Wilson abandoned in 1967 or so, then finally finished and re-recorded it in 2004 to much acclaim (deserved in my view).

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ArrGee


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PinkGlove wrote:

There was a website listing most (if not all) Pulp gigs and there were a bunch of songs played live before It was released, most of which I never even knew existed. I'm familiar with all the officially released albums (still have to buy Sperations and Freaks) and I've got Sudan Gerri on my PC, though there are still a lot of compilations and obscure B sides I'm yet to hear.

What's Smile anyway? Was that released previous to It or after?



http://www.geocities.com/truthandbeauty.geo/  Second time I posted this link today!


Smile was the Beach Boys great lost album "The Greatest Album That Never Was", Wilson’s answer to the Beatles "Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band”. As Mike says, Smile was eventually re-recorded and released a couple of years ago  http://www.amazon.com/SMiLE-Brian-Wilson/dp/B0002LI11M


Smiley Smile was the album the Beach Boys released at the time, but was considered to be a watered down version of what could have been.  Good Vibrations is probably the best known track (and possibly the best track ever!).


Brian Wilson actually played the whole album live at the Royal Festival Hall. http://arts.guardian.co.uk/reviews/story/0,11712,1153953,00.html


Now I have to go and get it.  more money, need more money



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I have the "Smile" Redux from 2005. It's not that great, and I rarely listen to it. There is something very claustrophobic about the production that doesn't appeal to me. I'm sure the original would have been brilliant though.


But... this is a Pulp thread.


I love "My Body May Die" and consider it Pulp's last masterpiece. I've long dreamt of a Pulp record that forgoes all pretense of pop in favour of something more experimental, like Pulp's "Kid A". I vaguely recall an interview from early WLL sessions where Jarvis said he "liked the new material because you could fall asleep to it". That sounded good to me, and when they hired Scott Walker to produce WLL, I really thought that I was going to get my experimental Pulp album.


Honestly, I'd be thrilled to have a 65 minute album that sounded like one long extended cut of "Seductive Barry". I can dream.


 



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Fuss Free wrote:

But... this is a Pulp thread.


What! I can only discuss Pulp.  Boo!


Listening to Duck Diving from the Peel Sessions this morning, that had the fall asleep potential.  I agree with you, that doesn't make it bad, but it's the sort of track you drift away to.  Must be hard being a musician in Pulp at time.  Long periods of repetition with Jarvis rambling away.  Maybe they have cattle prods to rouse them for the key changes.


 



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Fuss Free wrote:


Honestly, I'd be thrilled to have a 65 minute album that sounded like one long extended cut of "Seductive Barry". I can dream.


 



-- Edited by Fuss Free at 02:30, 2006-10-27


That would be fucking great.

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When I first read about falling asleep to a track I knew just what was meant there, and Seductive Barry is a perfect example. When you're really, REALLY tired, that song can send shivers through you as you gently fall asleep, particularly the weird noises right at the end.


I'd been listening to a lot of Spiritualized at the time, and described it to a friend as music it's great to fall asleep to. He didn't get how that could be a compliment...



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