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Jock Mooney


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I first discovered separations a couple of years back, and have sinced purchased a proper "CD" or "Compact Disc" - I like it very much indeed, though it seems to have been quite overlooked. Fair enough the last track, may seem a tad dated now but it is very much a comment of the time. I also enjoy the fact that the overall casio-ish soud of the record isn't them definetly being ironic, what with the fact that it was written, rehearsed and record in the (punch fist in air in a syllable-esqe manner) 80's - it's kitchness would stay with them for another six years or so.


The fact that the album was recorded (correct me if I'm wrong) in '89 and then shelved for (again correct me) two years must have been very frustrating for the band - though I suppose this gave them time to write a shit load of new material, as seen on the His'n'Hers re-release.



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Yeah I love Don't You Want Me Anymore?, She's Dead, Countdown, Legendary Girlfriend, Death, heck all of it.

The annoying thing about Separations is that the casual listener probably won't recognise what great songs these are as the shabby arrangement/production is very off-putting at first.

Live versions of some of them (esp. DYWMA? and Countdown) are far superior, IMO.

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She's Dead and Down by the River are ok. Everything other track is bloody amazing!

Countdown is probably my favourite song of all time (at the moment :)) and Don't You Want Me Anymore is superb.

I must seek out some live versions of said songs!

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Seperations is the first classic Pulp album in my book. Sounds great on a rainy day.

Does anyone else here get a sort of aural picture of Sheffield with this album (and many others) -- even if, like me, you've never been to Sheffield?

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I'm a Separations freak. I've gone beltless ever since I saw the "Girlfriend" video. But I love all things Pulp, and I'm a freak in general. See my space for a very Separations-influenced song ("Miserable In Love"). My production's not even as good as theirs was back then, though, I'm afraid.

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As a whole album I prefer Separations to His'n'Hers. Obviously the latter has some classic Pulp tracks on it, but I feel that Separations is more consistant throughout. For me "She's a Lady" really "Happy Endings" really cloggs up the flow of H'n'H - possibly because they remind me far too much of others songs, those being "I will survive" (She's a lady) and "The Universal" (Happy Endings). "Someone Like The Moon" doesn't quite seem to acheive what I think it set out to...


Considering that they held onto Babies so much, remixing, re-releasing etc, I think its strange that they didn't choose to re-do another couple from Separations instead of the weak links on their "breakthrough" album -


I would have loved to see H'n'H in this form....



  1. Joyriders

  2. Babies

  3. Lipgloss

  4. Separations

  5. Do you remember the first time?

  6. Razzamatazz

  7. Pink Glove

  8. David's Last Summer

  9. She's Dead

  10. Countdown

Now that would have been some album...



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His 'n' Hers without "She's a Lady" and "Happy Endings"? I should have known from your songs. You're out of your bloomin' mind, Jock.

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She's A Lady is one of the highlights of HnHs! Sort it out!


Separations is a great album though. Sadly it doesn't contain the best version of Countdown (that goes to the 12" extended mix), but it makes up for it with songs like Love Is Blind, Death II and the wonderous My Legendary Girlfriend.



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Mike wrote:

Seperations is the first classic Pulp album in my book. Sounds great on a rainy day.



separations is great, but how can you just dismiss freaks? (power, claustrophobia, suffocation and holding hands...). it might have something to do with being an '86 kid and not liking the smiths that much, but i absolutely love this album.


and i reckon 'she's a lady' has to be one of the best post-disco-though-not-techno dance tracks around. alongside 'countdown', of course.


but, if it wasn't on the album, could it ever be a b-side?



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She's A Lady? As a b-side? I don't think so.

Seperations was my first Pulp album that I got around this past Christmas. LOVE LOVE LOVE this album. Yeah, 'She's Dead' and 'Down By The River' are a bit dragged out, but nonetheless- I listened to this album everyday for about 2 months straight.

And btw, I can't dismiss Freaks either. Freaks + Seperations --> aww

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"Separations" - is when Jarv almost ready for the creation of the song "Babies". Hmm, very decent album. And if his play in the acoustics will be even better. I especially like the song "Death II" and bubbles on the cover.

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I once fell asleep very drunk whilst at uni, with Separations playing.

Unfortunately the CD was scratched a little, and for 6 hours through the night I was half asleep and barely aware I was listening to a 45 second loop of This House Is Condemned. I haven't been able to listen to This House since without feeling that same horrible feeling, it was nightmarish.

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Maybe it was trying to tell you something - were you living in a hovel at uni?

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I think it may have been one of the remix versions on My Legendary Girlfriend cd. The alarm or timer thing had been accidently set on my cd player and it started playing quietly playing to it'self in the early hours.

My mother heard something so having got out of bed and downstairs to investigate, she'd just got the door slightly ajar to the words, "IS THIS HOUSE..." rather loud. She told me she got quite the fright!

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Separations is Pulps first properly good album. Crap cover art though.

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Separations is a GREAT album. I remember listening to it for the first time and just being bowled over. I had "Love is Blind" on repeat for ages.

I haven't heard it for ages! I'm going to listen to it now!

Edit: Listening to it now. It's really Candida's/Russell's showpiece, is it not. Brilliant. aww

-- Edited by SarahAWilson on Friday 9th of September 2011 02:57:24 AM



-- Edited by SarahAWilson on Friday 9th of September 2011 03:05:35 AM

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Jarvis baritone is also on show as well. Love the album. its like their Casio version of Warp in a way....even the sleeve.

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cutcopy wrote:

its like their Casio version of Warp in a way....even the sleeve.

 Ha. Great observation.



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Very true about the Warp statement. I absolutely love This House Is Condemned. They took the key elements of Acid House and reworked them into something distinct, peculiar and stylish. It still stands up today. It's my favourite album alongside HnH and the sleeve for Countdown is one of the best in my opinion. Listen to it with headphones- there's so much going on. I don't think the production is shabby at all. It's restrained but suitably quantized and subtly epic before the cavernous blast of HnH really got things going. All hail Separations.

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The second half of the album is amazing, plus Love is Blind and Don't You Want Me Anymore? I can take or leave the title track/down by the river etc though. I just wish they'd made it just a couple of years later and whole thing had been disco-esque, and had contained Live On and Death Comes to Town.

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Love the lyrics of Love is Blind!

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I know what you mean but I think it ended up as a bit of a transitional concept from side A to B. What always struck me is how quickly they returned to a low tech feel from OU onwards. Next time they used a drum machine/midi was on She's A Lady.

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Hi there, I've been lurking for a while but felt I finally had to join and post. I too love Separations and I think that the gig at The Limit (3-3-87) is one of the best to listen to if you wanna get a feel of that crazy casio, eastern europe disco folk vibe they were rockin' in the late 80's.

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Hi Saw. Is that recording available anywhere? Only ever heard snatches of that period live.

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Yeah it is Matt. I sent it to the yahoo account a few weeks ago.

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