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hawalius1


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Was just rewatching this today and noticed that they've edited out the false start to Something Changed

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Poor Mark, it should have been done immediately!

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Nooooooooooo! Why do that? It's part of the charm of live music, a rare glitch. It reveals things about the bands personalities, and dynamics. That it's the most replayed bit of the clip shows it's interesting to viewers. Candida has sometimes hinted at Jarvis' occasional martinet tendencies, so it was intriguing to get a public glimpse of that. 

In general rewriting history and erasing truth and bending facts is a bad thing. It's a habit of totalitarianism, and shouldn't be a habit of fundraising public radio music clips! We're going to be struggling enough with malefactors undermining public trust doing this kind of thing with AI in coming years.

Okay that's a bit histrionic, and I don't feel all that strongly about it, it's just a bit disappointing to be robbed of a moment of magic, and be left with the bitter taste of saccharin.



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Mark was sent/shown a pre-uploaded version and they had edited it out so he understandably pissed off to see it being ultimately left in, initially.

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It was very odd to keep it. We know those sessions can be stressful, its not a very confortable setting for a musician. I wouldn't have greenlighted that to be honest.

As for Jarvis' reaction, same, its stress more then anything else. I guess he counts on them 3 to be perfect. Imagine having to perform in daylight squeeze behind a desk with no room and 300 eyes staring at you. ODD.

And i dont even mention the others, they're probably not allowed any mistake

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inspirit wrote:

In general rewriting history and erasing truth and bending facts is a bad thing. It's a habit of totalitarianism, and shouldn't be a habit of fundraising public radio music clips!

Steady on!

I quite enjoyed seeing the mistake the first time round... especially because Jarvis and Mark were both smiling about it, which definitely hasn't always been the case (I really don't like hearing Jarvis being horrible to Mark on older bootlegs). But I appreciate it shouldn't have been left in. It's a pre-recorded segment, clearly edited down to the highlights (the four songs): we don't need to see them soundchecking, waiting around, or making false starts.



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hawalius1 wrote:
I really don't like hearing Jarvis being horrible to Mark on older bootlegs

 I really need to know about this ? When ? What was said ?  biggrin

It can be tense between band members, and usually when they stop it means some dont get along anymore more than anything else. 



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Ah I can't remember exactly when, I'm afraid! Occasional snide comments about him coming in late/early for songs... or leaving the stage at the end of sets a little quicker than everyone else, so he's not (immediately) around for encores... from memory I think Russell even calls it out in his book, and says it became uncomfortable. Though Russell also fell out with Mark!



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"Quick on the draw there, Mark-o eh" when Mark stubs the start of Common People in Loreley in '98. But Jarvis is in a nasty mood all show.

45:50 ish

www.youtube.com/watch

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So he's the "child" of the band ?! Weird behavior for someone who joined late and basically won the lottery.

As for the YT clip, i guess its understandable, if they los their gear, i'd be pissed off too.

Nothing major though it seems, just human beings being human beings.

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Isn't there a show where Jarvis kicks in some monitors as well? Possibly the "left the cake in the ****ing rain" show?

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It's the end of Loreley, apparently. Poor Sonic Youth!

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