So there is a photo of a 3d updated cover with the Rough Trade logo doing the rounds on Facebook.
Do we have any more info on this ?
If this IS true, well that would open up a can of worms, as Universal own the title, so if it was to be released via Rough Trade under licence, this MIGHT be the opening we need for a We Love Life Deluxe?
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Is it just Rough Trade retail plugging this (ie not the label)?
Hits should have been pressed on vinyl years ago. Kind of surprised Universal haven't piggy-backed on the success of More with a new Best Of/Singles collection.
Really, for any new compilation, Miners Strike (great though it is that it got its live debut this year) and Underwear should make way for Misshapes and OU which has emerged spectacularly from the ashes in '25.
Also a bit surprised if this is true, with it being so close to DC:30 - the vinyl box costs £100! Are Pulp fans minted? I'm not....what's the point of being rich, if you can't think what to do with it? Maybe we can i.e spending MORE money on Pulp goods...
-- Edited by Eamonn on Tuesday 30th of September 2025 07:11:52 PM
It looks like "Hits" is for sale on their website but it shows a release date of 2017 and a placeholder-like description.
Some of the other albums are for sale such as "Separations" but this has the Fire catalogue number. As Rough Trade is a record store as well as a label, this would make sense.
Not sure what is happening to be honest. If this happens, let's hope we get a 3 CD reissue (the original, B-sides and the "lost" album) rather than a straightforward reissue or a bonus CD full of songs we already have.
If true, it'll just be a straight vinyl replica I imagine. Hasn't been issued on the format before so no "commercial" reason to go digging in the vaults. Would be nice to hear "Emmanuel" mind...
It would be interesting to find out exactly what happened with that song. The official website told us "Pulp aren't technically splitting up, but neither are they making any plans to return to the studio (other than for the new extra tracks on the Best Of, already recorded)" on 5th September 2002 but then when the tracklisting was released, Alex told us that "the other song wasn't finished". Maybe this is correct or the band decided that "Emmanuel" wasn't up to scratch. It's a shame that no single was released to promote "Hits" because it could have ended up as a B-side.
As for the reissue, hmm. I don't think they'll tinker with the tracklist. I'd have 'Mis-Shapes' on there of course, (and 'O.U.'), to make it a proper singles rundown, but 'Underwear' is one of their biggest songs these days, and I think 'Last Day' is wonderful and I like that it's on the CD.
Really, if we're redoing Hits, then a new two-disc 'best-of' compilation drawn from their time with Universal and Rough Trade (rather than a straight singles rundown) would be nice.
Something like
DISC ONE
'Sheffield: Sex City' - 'O.U. (Gone, Gone)' - 'Babies' - 'Razzmatazz' - 'Lipgloss' - 'Acrylic Afternoons' - 'Do You Remember the First Time?' - 'Pink Glove' - 'His 'n' Hers' - 'Common People' - 'Mis-Shapes' - 'Disco 2000' - 'I Spy' - 'F.E.E.L.I.N.G.C.A.L.L.E.D.L.O.V.E.' - 'Something Changed'
DISC TWO
'The Fear' - 'Dishes' - 'Help the Aged' - 'This Is Hardcore' - 'Like a Friend' - 'The Trees' - 'Wickerman' - 'Bad Cover Version' - 'Sunrise' - 'Last Day of the Miners Strike' - 'After You' - 'Spike Island' - 'Slow Jam' - 'My Sex' - 'Got to Have Love' - 'A Sunset'
Your mileage may vary as to certain tunes, of course.
Would really like to see Mark's mooted anthology tracklist he put together a few years back for Universal which he said contained some of the unreleased pre-WLL stuff.
I find greatest hits such a anachronistic concept in a playlist age. Shed 7 at least re-recorded all the tracks with new arrangements for their recent one.
I'd hate Pulp to do that. I remember for Suede's hits album Anderson rerecorded the vocals for Trash cos he was embarrassed at sounding like he was on helium on the original. But going back to change history...feck that.
Greatest Hits are cashcows for the label. Madness today announced their 13th. Which is the same number of studio albums they've released!
I'd hate Pulp to do that. I remember for Suede's hits album Anderson rerecorded the vocals for Trash cos he was embarrassed at sounding like he was on helium on the original. But going back to change history...feck that.
Greatest Hits are cashcows for the label. Madness today announced their 13th. Which is the same number of studio albums they've released!
Its not just the vocals, the added keys on that version of Trash are horrendous too. Its the worst reworked version of a good song I can think of
Not necessarily the Hits, but a compilation of re-recorded Pulp songs with the new line-up and new arrangements, with deeper vocals (like those recordings Joni Mitchell did c.2000). That version of Seconds from World Cafe was ace, would love to hear that recorded properly; might work better with the key shifted to a lower register.
I find greatest hits such a anachronistic concept in a playlist age. Shed 7 at least re-recorded all the tracks with new arrangements for their recent one.
I agree, Hot Chip recently released a best of which had one new song on it which was released as a single before the album came out.
So if you looked at the album on a streaming service before it was released the only song you could play was the new one and all the other tracks were faded out even though they were all already available to stream! I could have, if Id wanted to, recreated the album as a playlist before release.
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Seconds does sound great in 2025 and I'm glad it's been done in session so we have a good quality version of a rare gem from the back-catalogue. I'd just think it pointless to spend studio time on recording and overdubs of songs already released. Especially the hits, you don't redo Misshapes or Babies after all these years, never mind the unimprovable CP and TIH.
A live/session album, cool. But proper recording sessions for new material please. Pulp time is precious now, there ain't much of it left.
If they really are reissuing Hits, I just find that such a strange idea. It's by far their least popular (and most redundant) major label release. On the other hand you've got WLL which was a top 10 album that fans have been clamouring for a deluxe version of for years. And yet....
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Disagree. Hits has never been issued on vinyl and the CD version has actually gone on to be a steady seller despite its inauspicious initial chart position. It's now sold more than 300k copies in the UK over the years (mostly via HMV and Amazon bargain bins presumably - but no different to other artists backlists) which must be close to 10 times what WLL sold (less than 30k in its first week, dribs and drabs after).
We Love Life has already had a couple of vinyl releases and would need all the unreleased 1999/2000 gold to make it more of a pull. Very few people bought vinyl in 2002 when Hits came out, hence it never being released on the format. They do now. Universal wouldn't need to worry about adding extra content, it's low-effort and likely to sell more than any other Pulp reissue other than Different Class imo. Especially after an arena tour this year fresh in the minds of thousands of casuals...
Disagree. Hits has never been issued on vinyl and the CD version has actually gone on to be a steady seller despite its inauspicious initial chart position. It's now sold more than 300k copies in the UK over the years (mostly via HMV and Amazon bargain bins presumably - but no different to other artists backlists) which must be close to 10 times what WLL sold (less than 30k in its first week, dribs and drabs after).
We Love Life has already had a couple of vinyl releases and would need all the unreleased 1999/2000 gold to make it more of a pull. Very few people bought vinyl in 2002 when Hits came out, hence it never being released on the format. They do now. Universal wouldn't need to worry about adding extra content, it's low-effort and likely to sell more than any other Pulp reissue other than Different Class imo. Especially after an arena tour this year fresh in the minds of thousands of casuals...
That might be why us geeks would buy it but compilations on vinyl are for the floating punter and 2025 has shown that Pulp still have thousands of those.
I'd easily resist a Hits reissue on vinyl. I struggle to resist that Pulp completist impulse. Am holding out on the new Different Class vinyl, seems about £25 too expensive to me, but I know I'll crumble in the end. But Hits, or any of the Pulp compilations (Intro excluded) don't seem like Pulp objects to me. WLL deluxe would be a must, Hits, why bother?
I'd easily resist a Hits reissue on vinyl. I struggle to resist that Pulp completist impulse. Am holding out on the new Different Class vinyl, seems about £25 too expensive to me, but I know I'll crumble in the end. But Hits, or any of the Pulp compilations (Intro excluded) don't seem like Pulp objects to me. WLL deluxe would be a must, Hits, why bother?
I like MOTU compilation more than Freaks. Intro was the first pulp LP as far I was concerned, I discovered Separations afterwards.
I find it surprising that pulp have only ever had one somewhat neglected singles compilation whilst their peers have various single compilations. The only quibbles I have with Hits are the lack of OU and Mis-shapes along with additional of Last Days of Miners Strike which was never a single.
If there is a new Hits LP/CD then it should include After You, Spike Island and Got To Have Love. And probably Tina. The danger is it turns into a 5LP definitive best of like James are releasing.
Would I buy Hits (or a new greatest compilation) on vinyl? Maybe if it was just the hits and it was on 2LPs. Otherwise probably not.
PS - I am finding I can't be bothered buying vinyl much nowadays or any physical format. Unless Different Class drops in price I will leave it ditto the £400 Bowie box.
Disagree. Hits has never been issued on vinyl and the CD version has actually gone on to be a steady seller despite its inauspicious initial chart position. It's now sold more than 300k copies in the UK over the years (mostly via HMV and Amazon bargain bins presumably - but no different to other artists backlists) which must be close to 10 times what WLL sold (less than 30k in its first week, dribs and drabs after).
We Love Life has already had a couple of vinyl releases and would need all the unreleased 1999/2000 gold to make it more of a pull. Very few people bought vinyl in 2002 when Hits came out, hence it never being released on the format. They do now. Universal wouldn't need to worry about adding extra content, it's low-effort and likely to sell more than any other Pulp reissue other than Different Class imo. Especially after an arena tour this year fresh in the minds of thousands of casuals...
You and your pesky facts!
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I'd easily resist a Hits reissue on vinyl. I struggle to resist that Pulp completist impulse. Am holding out on the new Different Class vinyl, seems about £25 too expensive to me, but I know I'll crumble in the end. But Hits, or any of the Pulp compilations (Intro excluded) don't seem like Pulp objects to me. WLL deluxe would be a must, Hits, why bother?
I like MOTU compilation more than Freaks. Intro was the first pulp LP as far I was concerned, I discovered Separations afterwards.
I find it surprising that pulp have only ever had one somewhat neglected singles compilation whilst their peers have various single compilations. The only quibbles I have with Hits are the lack of OU and Mis-shapes along with additional of Last Days of Miners Strike which was never a single.
If there is a new Hits LP/CD then it should include After You, Spike Island and Got To Have Love. And probably Tina. The danger is it turns into a 5LP definitive best of like James are releasing.
Would I buy Hits (or a new greatest compilation) on vinyl? Maybe if it was just the hits and it was on 2LPs. Otherwise probably not.
PS - I am finding I can't be bothered buying vinyl much nowadays or any physical format. Unless Different Class drops in price I will leave it ditto the £400 Bowie box.
I never buy re-releases on vinyl, but then I have all the originals I'm after (after a long time of collecting). Like why would someone buy the 2019 repress of Everybody's Problem, when the original can be picked up for only a little bit more? I buy new physical formats, but represses just feel like replicas.
I never buy re-releases on vinyl, but then I have all the originals I'm after (after a long time of collecting). Like why would someone buy the 2019 repress of Everybody's Problem, when the original can be picked up for only a little bit more? I buy new physical formats, but represses just feel like replicas.
I like your approach. I do buy most of the re-releases, but I don't like that I do. It's only the originals that feel a bit magical. If fans can't find rare originals, and second best is all they can get, then people will want them, but they seem to lose something in translation. They're never done as well, a bit erstatz: the disc labels are badly designed, the sleeve printing is lower quality (bad cover versions). Official releases now are like the knock-offs of 30 years ago, so why does it cost so much to look so rough?
I never buy re-releases on vinyl, but then I have all the originals I'm after (after a long time of collecting). Like why would someone buy the 2019 repress of Everybody's Problem, when the original can be picked up for only a little bit more? I buy new physical formats, but represses just feel like replicas.
I like your approach. I do buy most of the re-releases, but I don't like that I do. It's only the originals that feel a bit magical. If fans can't find rare originals, and second best is all they can get, then people will want them, but they seem to lose something in translation. They're never done as well, a bit erstatz: the disc labels are badly designed, the sleeve printing is lower quality (bad cover versions). Official releases now are like the knock-offs of 30 years ago, so why does it cost so much to look so rough?
None of the originals are that hard to get hold of. The 7" of They Suffocate was the only thing that took me a while to track down, while the Caff record was a bit pricy. I got an original It in good condition for £8!
None of the originals are that hard to get hold of. The 7" of They Suffocate was the only thing that took me a while to track down, while the Caff record was a bit pricy. I got an original It in good condition for £8!
Yes, same here, got most of my stuff quite cheaply, just had to be patient.... but I paid £43 for the Suffocate 7", which is the most I ever paid by far for a single. Just really wanted it, it was the last one I didn't have (bar the Caff), just wanted to get it finished and got sick of waiting. Never got the Caff, and suppose I never will now. The prices are just too high for me, even when I can afford it, it's just more than I'm willing to pay.
Read about this recently, related to 'cost of living' increases. Many people have stopped buying certain foodstuffs, and not only the people who really can't afford the increases, but wealthy folk too - there's some psychological thing where people have price ceilings, beyond which they won't pay, when somehow it seems unjust, unfair, not right somehow. I think I've hit that ceiling with DC30.
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I never buy re-releases on vinyl, but then I have all the originals I'm after (after a long time of collecting). Like why would someone buy the 2019 repress of Everybody's Problem, when the original can be picked up for only a little bit more? I buy new physical formats, but represses just feel like replicas.
The problem is the originals can be hard to source unless you actively seek them out but I do agree. I bought a reissue of Sound Affects by The Jam, and then chanced upon a very good condition second hand copy in a bargain bin in Greenwich for £1. The latter sounded so much better. If only I had waited I would have saved myself a few quid. Similarly I have lots of 1970s/1980s LPs that are easy enough to find, but as CDs became more prevalent in 1990s, there are few original LPs available. I still regret not buying Different Class LP back in the day, but I had more or less stopped buying vinyl at that point.
I still regret not buying Different Class LP back in the day, but I had more or less stopped buying vinyl at that point.
Where I lived a couple of shops did sell new vinyl, but DC didn't appear. Would have bought it if it did. I wonder how many copies of that 1st aperture version were made and how broadly it was distributed? TIH was easy to get on vinyl.
Buying vinyl was very cheap in the 90s, old stuff anyway, and the only way I could afford music when I was in school / 6th form. I got all my Bowie LPs for £3ish.
I never buy re-releases on vinyl, but then I have all the originals I'm after (after a long time of collecting). Like why would someone buy the 2019 repress of Everybody's Problem, when the original can be picked up for only a little bit more? I buy new physical formats, but represses just feel like replicas.
The problem is the originals can be hard to source unless you actively seek them out but I do agree. I bought a reissue of Sound Affects by The Jam, and then chanced upon a very good condition second hand copy in a bargain bin in Greenwich for £1. The latter sounded so much better. If only I had waited I would have saved myself a few quid. Similarly I have lots of 1970s/1980s LPs that are easy enough to find, but as CDs became more prevalent in 1990s, there are few original LPs available. I still regret not buying Different Class LP back in the day, but I had more or less stopped buying vinyl at that point.
There's almost nothing I've never been able to get from Discogs. There's currently 16 copies of the original Aperture vinyl on there, 2 Caffs and even 1 They Suffocate (although missing its cover); and they seem to be the rarest/most sought after Pulp releases.
Caff doesnt tend to go for under £200. Suffocate and Aperture around £100. The rest all under £50.
Its relative though - £200 is the cost of a train from Sheffield to London (stood like a sardine outside the toilet). Whereas Caff would be a once in a lifetime prize possession
With the upcoming reissue of Different Class, the orignal aperture version will drop in value quite dramatically really. However you will still get greedy sods like Mr Peter Cracknell from Rare Record Shop on ebay asking for £385 for the Caff 7" and £250 for Common People yellow 7".
With the upcoming reissue of Different Class, the orignal aperture version will drop in value quite dramatically really. However you will still get greedy sods like Mr Peter Cracknell from Rare Record Shop on ebay asking for £385 for the Caff 7" and £250 for Common People yellow 7".
I don't think the values of originals ever tend to drop like that. They are artefacts, whereas re-releases are at best facsimiles. It's a different market.
I hadn't realised CP had shot up so much! It's still £130-150 on Discogs
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Wanted Babies original 12" vinyl but it's close to a hundy. Babies and Razz look to be about double the value of Lippy and DYRTFT on this format. I guess Island pressed a lot more of the latter two than Gift did of the two earlier singles.
Wanted Babies original 12" vinyl but it's close to a hundy. Babies and Razz look to be about double the value of Lippy and DYRTFT on this format. I guess Island pressed a lot more of the latter two than Gift did of the two earlier singles.
I never really got into 12" singles myself - I just do LPs and 7"s.
But yes, a lot does come down to the original pressing run. I remember there was an old Mansun single released under the name Grind. It used to be massively rare and expensive. But then one of the band found a box of another 100 or more copies in his loft, and they immediately plummeted to being everywhere and £10 a pop.
I've had some luck getting rarer stuff much cheaper either from https://www.musicstack.com/ or https://jp.mercari.com/. They can be a lot less aware and overpriced than eBay or Discogs. Mercari in particular you can get some real rarities and bargains
I gradually bought the whole discography on vinyl in the early 2000s along with some CDs. I did end up with a couple of extra copies of things that I have since sold on. I have never really bothered with reissues unless they contain tracks that I don't have already (as per the 2006 ones). I don't even own a record player or CD player now and just listen to everything on streaming.
A couple of things I did notice that still seem to be true now:
It was much easier to get my hands on a copy of "Freaks" than it was "Separations"
"Common People" CD2 avoided me like the plague for several years until I saw it in a second hand shop
The 7" of "They Suffocate at Night" was a lot harder to find than the 12" (I'm talking the original, long before it was reissued)
"Master of the Universe" has always been easy to find which seems a little odd considering it has a track that is unavailable elsewhere
Yeah, I think the MotU 12" (and TSaN too?) sold so poorly at the time that Fire had a load left in the warehouse which made their way into circulation when Pulp got big. Hence them being more readily available after that.
Absolutely right on Common People CD2, it took me years to find that.
I bought Freaks and Separations new on vinyl in 1995, they were pretty easy to get hold of at that point. Separations is the original release as put out in 1992; Freaks has that big black square on the back to obscure the old Fire Records address (and Jarvis and Russell's place in Crookes). Would be nice to get a real original at some point.
The only original vinyl that's eluded me is the Dogs Are Everywhere EP (although I've got a white label copy). It's gone up in price since I got most of the '80s releases on Ebay in the doldrum years of the early 2000s!
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Its relative though - £200 is the cost of a train from Sheffield to London (stood like a sardine outside the toilet). Whereas Caff would be a once in a lifetime prize possession
Good point. I bought the coloured 7" singles collection when it came out. I think it cost £35 at the time, but that was a BIG deal for me, when I was on £40/wk in my first job (pre-minimum wage days, evil employer, dead now - literally p*ssed on his grave, which still satisfies me years later). I had to save up for it, and kept going into the indie where it was behind the counter, hoping it would still be there. The Discogs median is £200, one up now for £370. Current minimum wage is £458 for a 37.5hr wk. Wow, things have changed. May have said this before, if so, apologies.
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With the upcoming reissue of Different Class, the original aperture version will drop in value quite dramatically really.
I thought that would happen when TIH was re-issued in 2016, but originals didn't drop at all on Discogs.
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Yeah, I think the MotU 12" (and TSaN too?) sold so poorly at the time that Fire had a load left in the warehouse which made their way into circulation when Pulp got big. Hence them being more readily available after that.
Similar to that, mint copies of Everybody's Problem used to appear periodically on Ebay in the 2000s / 2010s, purporting to be sold by Tony Perrin's widow. I didn't get one, but it looked genuine, and the address given was York, which fits with Red Rhino. I wonder if anyone here got one?
Yeah, I think the MotU 12" (and TSaN too?) sold so poorly at the time that Fire had a load left in the warehouse which made their way into circulation when Pulp got big. Hence them being more readily available after that.
Absolutely right on Common People CD2, it took me years to find that.
I bought Freaks and Separations new on vinyl in 1995, they were pretty easy to get hold of at that point. Separations is the original release as put out in 1992; Freaks has that big black square on the back to obscure the old Fire Records address (and Jarvis and Russell's place in Crookes). Would be nice to get a real original at some point.
The only original vinyl that's eluded me is the Dogs Are Everywhere EP (although I've got a white label copy). It's gone up in price since I got most of the '80s releases on Ebay in the doldrum years of the early 2000s!
Do you know where specifically in Crookes they lived? Mark was either Cairns or Selbourne Road wasnt he.
Similar to that, mint copies of Everybody's Problem used to appear periodically on Ebay in the 2000s / 2010s, purporting to be sold by Tony Perrin's widow. I didn't get one, but it looked genuine, and the address given was York, which fits with Red Rhino. I wonder if anyone here got one?
Got lucky with Common People CD2 - 49p, Age UK.
It was Tony K's widow - Tony Perrin is still alive and well to the best of my knowledge!
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Things like this always make me laugh. I was living on Crookes during the same time they were. Its like when I would see Russell on South Rd in Walkley when he lived down there in the early 90's.
If you look back on the Google Streetview images, the earliest one still has the butcher's sign on the wall - I'm sure either Jarvis or Russell said something about how the flat was over a butcher's fridge so it was always incredibly cold. It's daft but I like seeing those little bits of background detail. Wish we had more pics of the Wicker building.
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If you look back on the Google Streetview images, the earliest one still has the butcher's sign on the wall - I'm sure either Jarvis or Russell said something about how the flat was over a butcher's fridge so it was always incredibly cold. It's daft but I like seeing those little bits of background detail. Wish we had more pics of the Wicker building.
The interior of the Forge Dam cafe has changed beyond all recognition to the place described in Wickerman, even the child's toy horse ride has gone now. My photos are probably the only photos of the 'press in plastic letters on the price list' and the ride. I know things change but so much has changed since the 80's it's incredible. Even the things that replaced the old things have been replaced.