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Scottbloodyfrazer


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What does Brickwalling mean? Im not quite down with you younguns these days.

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Scottbloodyfrazer wrote:

What does Brickwalling mean? Im not quite down with you younguns these days.

 Look at here for example :

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudness_war



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inspirit wrote:

I read somewhere that brickwalling is bad for the hearing - as there are no lulls in intensity, the mechanism by which the ears protect themselves from loud noise relaxes and are not protected. I don't listen to music very loud, but getting older, it's worrying that more releases are following this pattern. Does anyone have technology to check if this is true of More and DC30?

 Brickwalling is not True or False. It's a question of levels. You can try to open some tracks with a software like Audacity and see how the graph looks like.

I used myself Audacity to boost the sound levels of the It/Freaks/Separation remasters (2012) to reach the level on the 2006 H&H/DC/TIH remasters. I also boosted the sound level on the Intro original CD. 



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Brickwalling is Definitely Maybe by oasis.

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Scottbloodyfrazer wrote:

What does Brickwalling mean? Im not quite down with you younguns these days.

 Basically it's the variation between the loud and quiet parts, the dynamic range. When something is brickwallef it means the loud bits and the quiet bits are all at the same volume ie loud.



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Exactly - the intention is to make the quiet parts louder. It becomes a problem if this end up with the music sounding like it's pounding in your ears rather than rising and falling naturally. I don't think Different Class sounds bad, but you can spot the difference if you compare the versions side by side using the visualiser in Audacity. The larger the line, the louder the sound.

I've just used one side of the stereo for each track, to make the comparisons easier to glance at - there's little visual difference between left and right for these tracks.

Common People

Top to bottom:
Blue - CD single (daytime)
Red - 95 CD
Green - 2006 deluxe edition CD
Black - 2025 30th anniversary CD

Verdict: seems to be getting louder with each release

 

Common People comparisons

 

Sorted for E's & Wizz

Top to bottom:
Blue - CD single (Mis-Shapes & Sorted) (n.b. this deliberately trimmed the first few seconds of near-silence)
Red - 95 CD
Green - 2006 deluxe edition CD
Black - 2025 30th anniversary CD (this adds a few seconds to the end, unnecessarily)

Verdict: the single mix was noticeably louder than the 95 album, so it's not as though this is anything new!

Sorted comparisons

 

More

A selection of the tracks from More:
Spike Island
Tina
Got to Have Love
Background Noise

Verdict: GTHL hurts my ears

Examples from More



-- Edited by hawalius1 on Monday 27th of October 2025 09:19:03 AM

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Do artists not care about "loudness wars"? Maybe you have to be an audiophile to really let it bug you but Jarvis has produced records and has sat in on remastering of this album at Abbey Road. He's also suffered from tinnitus.

You would think he'd cares about this although shilling the new DC deluxe LP as a 45RPM record rather than 33 suggests maybe not. New money for old, louder rope...

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The thinking seems to be that since the majority of listening is done via headphones so a narrow dynamic range is desirable so people hear a consistent sound level. As a corolkary to this volume is also boosted. Who knows why artists agree to it. As has been mentioned More is brickwalled and I presume the band had final listen and were happy with the mastering so I guess they're happy with how it sounds. Same must be true for DC. I'm 49 and I know my hearing is not great so I can only imagine what Jarvis and the other band members hearing must be like.

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This is all rather impressive stuff. Thanks for the info.

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Yes, thanks for that, it's interesting to see.

There are pictures online of some life sized DC cutouts at a few record shops (Bear Tree, HMV Manchester). Looks like they've made some new ones up for promo, which is lovely to see.

The cutout pictures in the DC30 booklet reflect those used in the Spike Island video, which makes me think DC30 has been planned since before SI / More - I just assumed Island / Universal were reacting to the fantastic response to More.

Do we know when this version was re-mastered? Sure I read somewhere that this version was worked on by Jarvis & Mark. The 2006 deluxe was remastered at Town House by Tim Burrell, but I thought I read somewhere that Jarvis & Steve worked on a DC remaster at Abbey Road at some point. Confusing.

 



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His 'n' Hers 25th anniversary release in 2019 was remastered at Abbey Road, supervised by Steve Mackey according to the press release. There was a photo posted earlier that year of Steve and Jarvis at the mixing desk together, with Geoff Pesche, "working on something special to be revealed soon".

In Steve's statement in late 2022 when the new Pulp tour was first announced, he said: "Jarvis and I remastered Pulp's entire Universal Records back catalogue together just over two years ago at Abbey Road Studios. It was a huge pleasure to do that and review our songs and recordings together." (e.g. quoted by the NME here)

When the Record Store Day version of Intro was released in 2024, this was also described as having been remastered at Abbey Road. (There was no mention of Steve or Jarvis.) 

The press release for DC30 included "The audio has been remastered/mastered by Geoff Pesche at Abbey Road, overseen by Jarvis ****er and Mark Webber", e.g. reported by SDE here. (So it sounds as though this might not be from the same remastering session that Steve was involved in. Certainly I would have thought they would have made a feature of Steve's involvement, if so. Or... perhaps someone credited Jarvis and Mark when it should have been Jarvis and Steve?)



-- Edited by hawalius1 on Tuesday 28th of October 2025 12:58:40 PM

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Not seen anyone mention it as it's quite new, could FEELINGCALLEDLIVE be getting a rerelease given that 3hr the Pulp YouTube channel have uploaded Common People from Brixton in '95?

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