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What does Brickwalling mean? Im not quite down with you younguns these days.

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Scottbloodyfrazer wrote:

What does Brickwalling mean? Im not quite down with you younguns these days.


 Look at here for example :

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudness_war



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inspirit wrote:

I read somewhere that brickwalling is bad for the hearing - as there are no lulls in intensity, the mechanism by which the ears protect themselves from loud noise relaxes and are not protected. I don't listen to music very loud, but getting older, it's worrying that more releases are following this pattern. Does anyone have technology to check if this is true of More and DC30?


 Brickwalling is not True or False. It's a question of levels. You can try to open some tracks with a software like Audacity and see how the graph looks like.

I used myself Audacity to boost the sound levels of the It/Freaks/Separation remasters (2012) to reach the level on the 2006 H&H/DC/TIH remasters. I also boosted the sound level on the Intro original CD. 



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Brickwalling is Definitely Maybe by oasis.

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Scottbloodyfrazer wrote:

What does Brickwalling mean? Im not quite down with you younguns these days.


 Basically it's the variation between the loud and quiet parts, the dynamic range. When something is brickwallef it means the loud bits and the quiet bits are all at the same volume ie loud.



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Exactly - the intention is to make the quiet parts louder. It becomes a problem if this end up with the music sounding like it's pounding in your ears rather than rising and falling naturally. I don't think Different Class sounds bad, but you can spot the difference if you compare the versions side by side using the visualiser in Audacity. The larger the line, the louder the sound.

I've just used one side of the stereo for each track, to make the comparisons easier to glance at - there's little visual difference between left and right for these tracks.

Common People

Top to bottom:
Blue - CD single (daytime)
Red - 95 CD
Green - 2006 deluxe edition CD
Black - 2025 30th anniversary CD

Verdict: seems to be getting louder with each release

 

Common People comparisons

 

Sorted for E's & Wizz

Top to bottom:
Blue - CD single (Mis-Shapes & Sorted) (n.b. this deliberately trimmed the first few seconds of near-silence)
Red - 95 CD
Green - 2006 deluxe edition CD
Black - 2025 30th anniversary CD (this adds a few seconds to the end, unnecessarily)

Verdict: the single mix was noticeably louder than the 95 album, so it's not as though this is anything new!

Sorted comparisons

 

More

A selection of the tracks from More:
Spike Island
Tina
Got to Have Love
Background Noise

Verdict: GTHL hurts my ears

Examples from More



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Do artists not care about "loudness wars"? Maybe you have to be an audiophile to really let it bug you but Jarvis has produced records and has sat in on remastering of this album at Abbey Road. He's also suffered from tinnitus.

You would think he'd cares about this although shilling the new DC deluxe LP as a 45RPM record rather than 33 suggests maybe not. New money for old, louder rope...

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The thinking seems to be that since the majority of listening is done via headphones so a narrow dynamic range is desirable so people hear a consistent sound level. As a corolkary to this volume is also boosted. Who knows why artists agree to it. As has been mentioned More is brickwalled and I presume the band had final listen and were happy with the mastering so I guess they're happy with how it sounds. Same must be true for DC. I'm 49 and I know my hearing is not great so I can only imagine what Jarvis and the other band members hearing must be like.

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This is all rather impressive stuff. Thanks for the info.

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Yes, thanks for that, it's interesting to see.

There are pictures online of some life sized DC cutouts at a few record shops (Bear Tree, HMV Manchester). Looks like they've made some new ones up for promo, which is lovely to see.

The cutout pictures in the DC30 booklet reflect those used in the Spike Island video, which makes me think DC30 has been planned since before SI / More - I just assumed Island / Universal were reacting to the fantastic response to More.

Do we know when this version was re-mastered? Sure I read somewhere that this version was worked on by Jarvis & Mark. The 2006 deluxe was remastered at Town House by Tim Burrell, but I thought I read somewhere that Jarvis & Steve worked on a DC remaster at Abbey Road at some point. Confusing.

 



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His 'n' Hers 25th anniversary release in 2019 was remastered at Abbey Road, supervised by Steve Mackey according to the press release. There was a photo posted earlier that year of Steve and Jarvis at the mixing desk together, with Geoff Pesche, "working on something special to be revealed soon".

In Steve's statement in late 2022 when the new Pulp tour was first announced, he said: "Jarvis and I remastered Pulp's entire Universal Records back catalogue together just over two years ago at Abbey Road Studios. It was a huge pleasure to do that and review our songs and recordings together." (e.g. quoted by the NME here)

When the Record Store Day version of Intro was released in 2024, this was also described as having been remastered at Abbey Road. (There was no mention of Steve or Jarvis.) 

The press release for DC30 included "The audio has been remastered/mastered by Geoff Pesche at Abbey Road, overseen by Jarvis ****er and Mark Webber", e.g. reported by SDE here. (So it sounds as though this might not be from the same remastering session that Steve was involved in. Certainly I would have thought they would have made a feature of Steve's involvement, if so. Or... perhaps someone credited Jarvis and Mark when it should have been Jarvis and Steve?)



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Not seen anyone mention it as it's quite new, could FEELINGCALLEDLIVE be getting a rerelease given that 3hr the Pulp YouTube channel have uploaded Common People from Brixton in '95?

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I'd be surprised if they have re-remastered Different Class again since circa 2019 but perhaps... a few years have passed, maybe Jarvis wanted another opinion from Mark to listen to what he, Steve and Geoff Pesche had done.


My vinyl deluxe set arrived today. It's an absolutely gorgeous-looking thing. The alternate covers are all glossily reproduced as cardboard sleeves. Both albums have their own plastic sleeves, the wonderful "Please understand..." album message is embossed beautifully.

Mild spoilers below so I'll put in the spoiler tag...

 

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I haven't listened to the records yet, Discogs is always full of audiophile critiques, I don't want to feel bad about having spent a lot of money on my favourite ever album so haven't read what's been said but apparently there are mutterings of disapproval. The whole 45 RPM actually being 33RPM is a little embarassing to be honest, and given the price-point of this release, is something that Universal/Pulp should probably front-up. I can't see a mention of the album being cut at 45RPM any more on some of the online stores selling it i.e HMV, Rough Trade - does anyone know if the descriptions have been quietly edited?!


I've checked the Midweek Charts and Different Class is currently at number 13! That will likely fall as all the pre-orders will have been counted already but still, it's probably in the region of 1k-2k units sold. With the vinyl box retailing at nearly £100, that's not a bad old return. More impressive, in a way, is the fact that Different Class was at number 128 in the charts last week - i.e the standard version. Which, (depressingly, in a way) is probably higher than More. The Mercury Prize effect wasn't as much as might have been expected. More was at number 99 in the physical charts (but not the overall charts) the week of the Prize, and is at 94 the week after.





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A shame that Mark or Pulp didnt reach out to certain fans regarding sources for Glastonbury 1995 - I know the original radio broadcast CD is out there.

I received my vinyl box set last week. The situation regarding the Common People comic sucked as its available with new orders, yet the pre-orders didnt have it. I bought the CD Reissue today, and asked if I could buy a copy of the comic, and was sadly told no.....however, "take this, just dont say you got it from me"..........and now im the proud owner of a complete Different Class 30 Year Vinyl and CD :)

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Fair play, you deserve the comic after buying DC30 more than once!

I assume the mix on this release for the Glastonbury '95 tracks is of equal quality to the radio broadcast at least? Judging by the notes, they've clearly spent time on locating the best sources to make it sound as good as possible.

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I have 3 different versions of Different Class CD, I got the vinyl box set today. I don't know what the sounds like in 45rpm and 33rpm, but it doesn't like Jarvis said when the news was released. I still feel a little upset. Many people shared the DC comics on social media. But, for the price + shipping + import tax/duty, I paid CAD$35 for duty for the vinyl set, I gave up, at least the pre-order sticker sheet is pretty. If I can buy CD set and get the comics, I definitely want one.

The Brickwalling thing is really interesting, thanks for all the information.

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The mix of the Glastonbury set is very much different than what is already in public domain. A couple of songs sound like there is no difference (common people for sure as it was released on the misshapes single - I'm certain that it is the same mix, Disco 2000 sounds pretty much as radio broadcast, but I assure you - this new version of Glastonbury 95 is far superior to anything else out there. I won't spoiler too much, but just listen to DYRTFT?, and Pink Glove in particular. A lot more focus on the synths :)

As for DC 30 itself, there are subtle differences, not just in volume but certain instruments are more apparent. Feeling Called Love, Common People, Monday Morning, Sorted all majorly improved. As for the others, I'm struggling to notice too much different apart from volume levels.

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Different Class has gone in at number 38 in the album charts this week. Number 9 in Physical charts.

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Well, I got stiffed on the stickers - I pre-ordered the CD only, from the 'stickers' link at Sound Of Vinyl - but they didn't come.

Not surprised, I bet they only went out with the LP, but disappointed I spent an extra £3 on the shop price.

(Not disappointed with the CD though - Pink Glove and especially Acrylic Afternoons are tremendous.)

Can anyone share anything about the stickers, as I can't find images or info about them?



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@inspirit, I took the photo when I got it a few days ago. I can post it to PulpWiki, maybe next week. But I have not had a chance to open the Vinyl set yet

Btw, DC is on the This weeks most collected vinyl records & CDs on Discogs. Hope the sale can continue for a while.



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Thanks for sharing @luckyduck , they look lovely.

The LP's still available from the Pulp shop, and despite all my whining about the price, I'm quite tempted now.

It looks so nice in AA's review and reveal. I was trying to spend my money on actual audio this year, and not just stuff... but as far as stuff goes, this is pretty gorgeous.



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Super Deluxe Edition, who do Blu-Ray audio releases of classic albums - often with Dolby Atmos sound which is the latest best-in-class listening experience for audiophiles, did attempt to do a Blu-Ray for Different Class but were rejected. A shame as they've done some big names (the Human League's Dare was a recent release) and released over 50 in this format now.

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I fancy the Air Virgin Suicides super deluxe, plan to treat myself this winter (self employed, and winter is when I work out if I made any money for the year, and can let loose a bit). I adore that album, and want the demo and unheard session tracks. It has the bluray dics, but I won't benefit from it, as my hi-fi set up is 20+ year old Denon, and my bluray player only outputs to the crappy little speakers on my titchy little telly.

I'm not an audiophile, never had opportunity to find out if I'm sophisticated enough to hear the difference. I am a cinephile though, and I really should get sorted out to watch and listen to my films on a better quality set up.



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Is there an error in the booklet Because one of the boy cover Something Changed single is upside down. Or have I missed something over the years? Got the CD version in Melbourne over the weekend and will try and get the vinyl from locale shop here. Fun fact. I dont own any versions of Different Class on vinyl - like Earmonn said further up Ive always tried to wait it out for an original pressing of the mix'n'match covers.

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Well, I ordered a copy, despite it being crazy expensive with tariffs. I'd never bought Different Class on vinyl in hopes one day they'd rerelease it with an aperture sleeve or I'd one day be able to get my hands on one of the originals. Excited for it!

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