Looks like someone was a tad ambitious at the size of the American venues - from another forum:
If American fans haven't bought your tickets yet, AXS is selling half price tickets on the app.
Because some idiot thought Pulp would fill 8000-10,000 seat venues in America in 2025. Probably the same schmuck who thought Roxy Music would fill arenas.
I don't think that the UK arena tour sold out. When I saw them at London o2, it wasn't full. I'd say a reasonable estimate would be that it was around 95% full. Perhaps it's because the band have now been touring again for over 2 years and anyone who wanted to see them has had their chance. If there really are going to be tour dates in 2026 then perhaps smaller venues would be more appropriate, nothing wrong with that.
They played 2 dates in Toronto a year ago in a 2500 theatre and are playing a 16000 stadium next month. Someone should have given that more thought. Loads of tickets left.
If there are more UK dates next year, I wonder would they go to arenas/sheds in cities they haven't been to since 1998 (ie Brighton, Bournemouth, Liverpool, Hull) and places that are a bit out of the way and starved of big concerts - Exeter, Norwich, even Newcastle.
From what Mark has said, it seems Jarvis still wants to play as big a venue as they can.
Agreed about the O2 Ian and I thought it had just the right amount of people there, to get to and from the bar without any hassle and still get a decent view of the stage. I'm in two minds about having a massive venue that's not filled with enough people to detract from the vibe. O2 was a good atmosphere because people were clearly there to watch Pulp and thankfully not too many people looking at their phones instead of the band, or at least not where I was. The lighting was good too, so that the main focal point was the stage. It was the same for when I saw Pulp in Amsterdam, albeit with a slightly smaller venue than the O2 (or it seemed the case). It helped that Pulp had loads of energy for both and the gigs were fantastic. In comparison when I saw the Manics in the Brighton Centre a few years ago, the lighting was too bright and really showed how empty the standing area was and reflecting on that now, I think to an embarrassing level. There weren't too many people singing along to their then new songs either, which really put a dampener on the gig. I went to the Birmingham NEC earlier for another this year too and although the standing area wasn't packed, the lighting made all the difference to the atmosphere. Not knowing any of the US venues, I'm sure Pulp will smash it anyway - of course they will. For 2026, I'd be happy with a few other locations across the UK - but frankly, I'd see them again anywhere as long as they continue with the same energy!
If there are more UK dates next year, I wonder would they go to arenas/sheds in cities they haven't been to since 1998 (ie Brighton, Bournemouth, Liverpool, Hull) and places that are a bit out of the way and starved of big concerts - Exeter, Norwich, even Newcastle.
From what Mark has said, it seems Jarvis still wants to play as big a venue as they can.
Perhaps I am posting this on the wrong thread but I have just remembered that I had a dream the other night about Pulp playing an outdoor show in Liverpool. I don't think I have ever been to an outdoor concert in Liverpool but I think it would work quite well.
Standing in a park with nearly 50,000 people behind me at Tramlines earlier this year was actually a bit of a nightmare tbh. Especially when it came to leaving and you're funnelled into an exit you don't want to use. We ended up having a very tiring walk home and didn't get back until midnight.
Jarvis did mention how Pulp had never played an outdoor gig in Sheffield before with a "hmm now there's an idea" tone in his voice so who knows, maybe a big outdoor gig might be on the cards.
Oh, wow, that's a big capacity venue in Toronto. I was just wondering about that, I'd presumed ticket sales were going well, if they were only half full would you be losing a lot of money? It always strikes me that there's a lot of money pumped back in at the Pulp gigs. They've got so many extra personnel and a great stage show.
I suppose they were in the US and Canada last year. Having said that, I'd go every year if they were here every year!
I would assume that there is a break-even point which varies with the venue/location.
The band would never share this info with us (quite rightly) but it would be interesting to know how much they make from live performances and if there any where they have made a significant profit/loss over the years.
They certainly don't do it in a lean way. Mark has said the 2020s-Pulp concerts are very expensive to put on and there are territories like France where they haven't had offers from promoters to make it work.
Yeah, I can see how the tickets were the price they were given the numbers of people on stage and all of the props and screens. Were the tickets pricier in the US and Canada maybe with having to ship a lot of gear etc. Isn't travel to the US down in general this year? Perhaps that's a bit of it.
-- Edited by Jean on Tuesday 26th of August 2025 09:44:58 PM
As much as I'd love to see Pulp play more venues like Co-op, I'd love them to play a strip down show at something like the Jacaranda Liverpool - such a great intimate venue.
Honestly, when I saw they are playing in Budweiser Stage, 16000 capacity, in Toronto. I was wondering why and doubting they can fill the stadium. I love Pulp from the bottom of my heart and they are the only one. But they are not that popular in Canada. When Spike Island came out, Acrylic Afternoon made a chart about air plays. Canada only got 4 plays Also, they came here last year, History, 2500 capacity, so 2 nights, we assume 5000. 5000 vs 16000.
I really want to go, but I have family issue this year so I cant! I met a couple who are from Montreal last year, I dont know if they can make it this time. I am so sad and worry about the North America tour.
On the other hand, if the tickets sales is not as good as expected, when will they com here again? I dont think they will, next year, at least. And will they keep making new album and music? They are not those singers/bands who make music just for money.
If there are more UK dates next year, I wonder would they go to arenas/sheds in cities they haven't been to since 1998 (ie Brighton, Bournemouth, Liverpool, Hull) and places that are a bit out of the way and starved of big concerts - Exeter, Norwich, even Newcastle.
From what Mark has said, it seems Jarvis still wants to play as big a venue as they can.
It's disappointing that Jarvis only wants "BIG" gigs. I'd love to see them play some smaller venues.
Would love a more thorough UK tour - I mean they've already played some fairly unconventional places (although, them doing both Bridlington and Scarborough is VERY Pulp) - would love to see them continue that trend. Pulp Aberdeen! Pulp York! Pulp Bristol! They went to Hereford in 1998!
Last year they left the string section at home (Emma was the string section!), as well as most of the multimedia. I expect they'll do something similar this year, especially in light of the weak sales.
And while they did sell 5,000 tickets in Toronto, I suspect they sold them to around 3,500 people, many of whom attended both shows (that's a wild guess based on no actual information).
If it's practical to change venues, it could happen. It probably isn't, so deep discounts on tickets are almost certain. They'll want as many people as possible inside buying merch and creating a fun atmosphere. A 2/3 empty venue is not fun. And I'm sure venues and promoters want a full house buying the $20 beers.
-- Edited by Pulp Friction on Wednesday 27th of August 2025 10:12:50 PM
It's disappointing that Jarvis only wants "BIG" gigs. I'd love to see them play some smaller venues.
I kind of agree, although I can see what his reasoning might be: touring mid-size venues and more unusual places is what he was doing as Jarv Is, so he could just go back to that if he wanted to work on that sort of scale. To me, part of the difference between solo Jarv and Pulp is about being more outward-facing and universal, which goes hand in hand with a bigger audience. Part of the attraction for him (and the others?) must be that buzz of playing a large-scale, ambitious show to a huge, adoring crowd.
But yes - how cool would a Pulp deep cuts show in Peak Cavern be!
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Last year they left the string section at home (Emma was the string section!), as well as most of the multimedia. I expect they'll do something similar this year, especially in light of the weak sales.
And while they did sell 5,000 tickets in Toronto, I suspect they sold them to around 3,500 people, many of whom attended both shows (that's a wild guess based on no actual information).
If it's practical to change venues, it could happen. It probably isn't, so deep discounts on tickets are almost certain. They'll want as many people as possible inside buying merch and creating a fun atmosphere. A 2/3 empty venue is not fun. And I'm sure venues and promoters want a full house buying the $20 beers.
-- Edited by Pulp Friction on Wednesday 27th of August 2025 10:12:50 PM
Your wild guess has some merit. 5 of us attended both nights and I did see others both nights. Know the next Toronto show will be empty is heart breaking.
If there are more UK dates next year, I wonder would they go to arenas/sheds in cities they haven't been to since 1998 (ie Brighton, Bournemouth, Liverpool, Hull) and places that are a bit out of the way and starved of big concerts - Exeter, Norwich, even Newcastle.
From what Mark has said, it seems Jarvis still wants to play as big a venue as they can.
It's disappointing that Jarvis only wants "BIG" gigs. I'd love to see them play some smaller venues.
Would love a more thorough UK tour - I mean they've already played some fairly unconventional places (although, them doing both Bridlington and Scarborough is VERY Pulp) - would love to see them continue that trend. Pulp Aberdeen! Pulp York! Pulp Bristol! They went to Hereford in 1998!
I suppose Jarvis wants to make as much money as possible, it's probably the last "big" tour they will do. In a few years, demand won't be that huge, i'm sure venue will be much smaller if there is another new album.
Guessing another consideration is an understandable preference for playing one larger show rather than two small ones back-to-back. Unfortunately this, combined with last year's strong sales, seems to have led the band, management and/or promoters to book overly large venues.
And yes, it was wonderful to see them in small venues last year. Stripped down production, but still fantastic.