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 I promise never to ask for any more Pulp ever again.


 It's never enough and you know it. biggrin



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I have just noticed that one of the songs Jarvis wrote for Charlotte Gainsbourg (Jamais) includes the lyrics "The Performance of a Lifetime". I wonder if he recycled that song or some of the lyrics. Or maybe it's just pure coincidence.

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Ian wrote:

I have just noticed that one of the songs Jarvis wrote for Charlotte Gainsbourg (Jamais) includes the lyrics "The Performance of a Lifetime". I wonder if he recycled that song or some of the lyrics. Or maybe it's just pure coincidence.


 

Interesting.  It's hard to tell.  Grown-Ups reuses the line 'The Night They Let Me Out Of The Home', but bares no relation to the solo track of that name.  



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So two similar-ish groups to Pulp (in terms of popularity and a bit of shared aesthetic and sound) have both, this month, announced deluxe/superdeluxe version of albums that are their equivalent to This Is Hardcore and We Love Life.

The former is the album The Art Of Falling Apart (which Jarvis probably wishes he could have nicked as the name for TIH) by Soft Cell - no top twenty singles from this after the popularity of their debut which spawned the cover of Tainted Love (most successful single of 1981). This new reissue is a 6CD affair. (The link for this has been up and down over the past couple of weeks, some fans preordered already but no official announcement has been made. I'll link to it when the page is working again).

Supergrass' fifth record, Road To Rouen, came out exactly 20 years ago. I remember my local recordstore owner giving me a free promo CD of the gorgeous single St Petersburg. This era of Supergrass "got lost" even more than We Love Life. But it's a beautiful record. The 20th anniv reissue is suitably understated - just a 2CD affair (plus double vinyl - the original goes for silly prices). https://tinyurl.com/yxf4k38y

They have made a bit of a splash about it on social media, including a teaser video with Twitter/Facebook/Insta screenshots of posts from fans demanding a Road To Rouen reissue. If Pulp ever have the same idea, they can just screenshot the fcuk out of all the Bar Italia messages wailing for a WLL deluxe!


Supergrass have also cleverly spun one of the only unreleased songs from that era as a "lost single" and it got a play on 6Music this morning. Imagine Cuckoo Song being given a public platform for the masses to marvel at....one can dream.

Anyway, just thought the above might be of note in terms of "benchmarking" against our beloved We Love Life.



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And it's not like there's been nowt since. Universal presumably paid for the Abbey Road studio time when Steve and Jarv remastered the back-cat in 2019. So far the fruits of that have been new vinyl editions of HnH later that year and - encouragingly, Intro just last year.


 (sorry for off topic, but...) I didn't realise that Intro was remastered. For anyone who has it, do you think it sounds good / better than original?


 Missed this - I have a copy but I bought it just after I'd moved house and terribly, I still haven't set-up my record player. Problems with the roof, delaying the redecorating leading to boxes not being unpacked etc.... But I think the reviews on Discogs were pretty good.



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How about we set up a record label ourselves? Any music licensing experts in the room?


I thought that you would know all about it having set up the Venini label all those years ago biggrin.

So would I be right in thinking that it would be similar to the compilations of Fire material that appeared in the 1990s? Set up a small label, pay Universal to licence the tracks then get it released and hopefully make our money back.

The main album is presumably of higher value to Universal than unreleased material so just getting the "lost" album released may be more financially viable.


Ha! There wasn't a lot of business involved in what I did with Venini...

But yes, I think that would be it in a nutshell. I imagine that Universal, by and large, would be happy to licence material to anyone who coughs up a sufficient amount of cash (hence the third-party vinyl reissues over the years etc). The bigger part of the job would probably be getting the band's co-operation - not all the demos would be in Universal's vault necessarily (if it's just stuff they recorded under their own steam), so it'd be a case of getting access to Mark's stash of CDRs and so on.

Obviously setting up a proper record label and all the legalities and admin that entails would be a bit more complex than that, but for someone with the right amount of cash and know-how, I don't think it'd be insurmountable. (I guess the worst case scenario would be Universal, on being approached, turning around and saying "Hang on - why aren't *we* doing this?" and them going ahead and saving us a job!)

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Interesting point about Universal doing it themselves, particularly as they will now be well aware of the band's recent success.

Just looking at the recording sessions on the Wiki. I vaguely remember an Island promo appearing on the (then) official website that featured the October 1999 Wessex demos so that's likely to be in their vaults. The only song we haven't heard from this in any form is "Darren". It would be likely that they hold copies of the abortive LP sessions from 2000 as they had producers on board for these. Unfortunately, it doesn't appear as if they recorded anything for these that wasn't eventually released.

Maybe a concentrated effort to get a petition signed would be the best option to start with. We could send that to Universal then if they either decline or don't take any notice, it could be a good indication that doing it ourselves would be more appropriate. We could also send a copy to Rough Trade who may wish to take it on and probably have more chance of convincing the band to get involved than Universal... "Look here Jarvis, we've got a petition with a couple of thousand signatures asking for you to release some demos from 25 years ago". Even just Mark getting involved would ensure that a decent job is done.

If we went straight ahead with the record label idea, we don't know exactly how much it would cost to licence the tracks and risk making losses / having to refund people if Universal decide to do it themselves.

An online petition would cost nothing and neither would sharing it on social media. I will look into it...

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Here we go:

https://feelingcalledlive.co.uk/release-a-deluxe-edition-of-we-love-life/

Feel free to share. I'm a bit busy at the moment but if anyone wants to help just send me a message and we can discuss in the next couple of days.



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Signed and email confirmed. But the number remains the same. System said my email has already signed. Maybe need time to add up to the list?!

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Signed and email confirmed. But the number remains the same. System said my email has already signed. Maybe need time to add up to the list?!


Yes, it's a bit strange; signatures are definitely being recorded but the counter takes a while to update. There may be a setting I can change.

I have made an image here and shared it on Instagram. Feel free to share far and wide or make your own images if you can improve on that. 



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What happened to the original petition on PulpWiki? I found the page but all the names and messages were gone. Is that a GDPR thing? Was just curious to see how many signatures it got - pretty sure it was well over a thousand albeit it was "active" over many years since 2011 or thereabouts.

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I'm not quite sure. Perhaps Will knows but if the petition was being run through a plugin then these have to be kept up to date or they may stop working.

My Instagram post has reached over 200 accounts so I think that more sharing will result in plenty of signatures. Maybe 2500 is a bit of an optimistic target but I can decrease it if necessary.

If anyone has any links to ex-members that would be willing to sign and help spread the word then I think that would work really well. I vaguely remember Steven Havenhand and Peter Mansell posting here and although they don't feature on the recordings, it would be good to have them on side.

I think that Rough Trade may be our best option but I will send it to both. I bet they made quite a bit out of "More" and if the cost of licensing tracks from Universal is less than recording another album, they would be onto another winner.

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What happened to the original petition on PulpWiki? I found the page but all the names and messages were gone. Is that a GDPR thing? Was just curious to see how many signatures it got - pretty sure it was well over a thousand albeit it was "active" over many years since 2011 or thereabouts.


I'll restore the list of signatures and comments for the PulpWiki petition when I get a chance. In total there were 1334 signatures. Looking at the list there are a few spam or duplicate submissions that need weeding out but I reckon well over 1200 are genuine.

The PulpWiki petition launched in October 2011. I had planned to make Universal and the band aware of it in some way when it reached 1000 signatures, but it lost momentum around 800-900, and by the time 1000 was reached in April 2014 my mind was on other things, and I let it fizzle out. The petition did appear prominently on the front page of the wiki for a few years, so I assume the band were aware of it.

I imagine a new petition would get more signatures now. In part because the Pulp community on social media is bigger now.



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You are absolutely right. There is a Pulp Facebook group with over 11000 members. If a quarter of them signed the petition, then the target would be reached.

I noticed that Pulp's official X account follows me so I have shared on there and tagged them along with Universal and Rough Trade.

I have a few things planned such as attempting to reach out to Steven Havenhand (his current band are on Facebook) to see if we can get his support. I think we may be able to get Nick's attention too as he seems to be active on social media. A few months ago, I would have printed a couple of thousand flyers with QR codes on to distribute at gigs but there is nothing planned for the UK just yet.

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I signed the form but i get an error message saying could not submit the form then it called me an invalid nonce!

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Not my words biggrin. A Wordpress error which I think I have now resolved



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Ah, just seen the other thread. Poor Ian, you must have got a shock! Great work with this, hopefully we can manage the target by... the end of the year? Or at least while Pulp are still active (more shows for 2026 according to Mark), it might help its chances more.

Thanks for the update on the original petition, Will.

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76 confirmed signatures out of a total of 127 in less than a weekend. I have shared in the Pulp Facebook group which has over 11000 members so hopefully we can get a lot of them to sign. I have found a couple of ex-members on Facebook so I have sent messages to them. Facebook seems a bit strange as some people I know personally have sent me messages yet they get filtered out. Still, it's worth a go. I think that it would give the petition a little bit more weight if we were to send it and say "2,500 people have signed including this ex-member, that ex-member and the other ex-member".

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Yep absolutely, especially if it includes Nick and Mark!

If it's down to Jarvis as much as Universal though, and the latter's motivation is £; I wonder would a couple of thousand sigs really change Jarvis' mind if he's become protective of the songs and doesn't want them out there...

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I have messaged Wayne Furniss and Steven Havenhand. I also found Dave Kurley so dropped him a message as he was associated with the band in the 1980s.

I think, if anything, Jarvis has become less protective of the songs. He didn't object to any Fire reissues ("Silence" aside) or the "Everybody's Problem" reissue. He probably just doesn't have the time to deal with Universal. That said, if Mark was to take the lead...

So based on the cover I made, there's 10 songs that we haven't heard or 13 if you count the ones that leaked. On the balance of probabilities, it's likely that there are a couple of classics. Mark spoke very highly of "The Last Song in the World" and "Emmanuel" must have had something about it to be re-recorded for "Hits". The rest will likely range from "Paula" to above average. Even so, I doubt there's anything that Jarvis would ban outright like "Silence".

I still think that it would be a quick win for Rough Trade. They could release it as a limited edition or even a digital only which would cost much less.

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Had the same invalid error pop up as Pye did.

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When was this? I think I resolved it a couple of days ago. You might need to clear your cache or refresh the page first.

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I never got the message using a desktop browser, but i did when using a mobile one

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