Eamonn wrote:

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Jarvis not being interested is apparently just as big a blocker.

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 Which seems a little contradictory when they've just dragged a whole load of pretty obscure songs out of the back catalogue to play live. Just let Mark deal with it, he's indicated he'd be happy to do it. It seems such a pity and something of a wasted opportunity.

saw119 wrote:

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There must be literally no return on Pulp legacy product at all. Even Oasis are re flogging What's The Story this October. I know there's nowt much left in the vaults but a 45rpm vinyl reissue with the b sides, remixes, Glastonbury 95 on disc and blu ray (stick a Dolby Atmos mix on there as well) with the interchangeable covers should see like a no brainer. There isn't even much extra on the Oasis release but there it is! It's not even a new remaster.

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There is lots of unused material in the vaults from 1999-2002, the ones in bold have never seen the light of day in any form and could easily fill a CD. Even if a couple of them turn out to be working titles for songs that were later released, we know that the majority of them aren't. The ones in italics may have been abandoned during recording.

1. The Birds in Your Garden (Wessex Demo 1)
2. Darren (Wessex Demo 1)
3. Bob Lind (Wessex Demo 1)
4. Sunrise (Wessex Demo 1)
5. Yesterday (Wessex Demo 1)
6. The Quiet Revolution (Wessex Demo 1)
7. Wickerman (Wessex Demo 1)
8. Cuckoo Song (Wessex Demo 1)
9. Got To Have Love (Wessex Demo 1 / instrumental version)
10. Love Is (Wessex Demo 2)
11. Bad Cover Version (Wessex Demo 2)
12. My Mistake (Wessex Demo 2)
13. The Night That Minnie Timperley Died (Wessex Demo 2)
14. Forever In My Dreams (Wessex Demo 2)
15. The Last Song In The World (Wessex Demo 2)
16. After You (Wessex Demo 2)
17. M'Lady (Wessex Demo 2)
18. Grandfather's Nursery (Wessex Demo 2)
19. The Performance of a Lifetime (Wessex Demo 2)
20. St Just (Wessex Demo 2)
21. Got to Have Love (Wessex Demo 2 / vocal version)
22. The Trees (Live Depot Demo)
23. Born to Cry (Live Depot Demo)
24. Under the Covers (Live Depot Demo)
25. Emmanuel (Live Depot Demo)
26. Love Is (Live Depot Demo)
27. Have Your Own (Live Depot Demo)
28. To Love Someone (Live Depot Demo)
29. Roadkill (Live Depot Demo)
30. Yesterday (Live Depot Demo)
31. Cuckoo Song (Live Depot Demo)
32. My Mistake (Live Depot Demo)
33. Love You Baby (Depot Demo / instrumental)
34. Six String (Depot Demo / instrumental)
35. Chordy / My Mistake (Depot Demo / instrumental)
36. Playground (Depot Demo / instrumental)
37. Last Song In The World (Depot Demo / instrumental)
38. Medieval Owl (Depot Demo / instrumental)
39. Candy's Spectre (became Bad Cover Version) (Depot Demo / instrumental)
40. Disco too Disco (probably an instrumental version of After You) (Depot Demo / instrumental)
41. Jungle Rumble (became The Night that Minnie Timperley Died) (Depot Demo / instrumental)
42. Dream Galaxy (Depot Demo / instrumental)
43. Weeds (Chris Thomas)
44. Sunrise (Chris Thomas)
45. Bad Cover Version (Chris Thomas)
46. The Birds in Your Garden (Chris Thomas)
47. Yesterday (Chris Thomas)
48. Forever in my Dreams (Chris Thomas)
49. Bad Cover Version (Howie B)
50. Weeds (Howie B)
51. Weeds (Ben Hillier)
52. Weeds (Pete Lewis)
53. Sunrise (Pete Lewis)
54. Bad Cover Version (Pete Lewis)
55. Emmanuel (Hits session version)

Yeah plus I don't agree with the "no return on Pulp legacy product". As others have said above, every two-bit indie also-ran of the last 30 years seems to have reissued their wares sometimes more than once. I've no doubt it's a passion project for a small bit of profit in many of these cases but Pulp's scale surely makes it more viable.

Hits dying on its arse in the Xmas rush in 2002 didn't stop Universal from commissioning the deluxe editions of the "holy trinity (behold the crown of all creation"! Sorry... couldn't resist. It's the finest moment on More.) just three and a half years later.

And it's not like there's been nowt since. Universal presumably paid for the Abbey Road studio time when Steve and Jarv remastered the back-cat in 2019. So far the fruits of that have been new vinyl editions of HnH later that year and - encouragingly, Intro just last year. By all accounts, a 25th anniv edition of DC was in the pipeline before the pandemic scuppered it.

Hits incidentally, has now sold over 100k in the UK. And the success of More - seven weeks in the top twenty of the UK physical charts and holding-up impressively well in the overall album charts in Scotland, gives Universal some great marketing and high-profile to piggyback onto.

Pulp not currently having a steady/friendly relationship with key players at Universal and Jarvis' disinterest are apparently the stumbling blocks according to Mark per his comments at recent book-talks. Not sure which element is more fixable! But the fact that Steve primarily did do that work with the old records gives me hope. Why bother if there were no plans for the label to get a return on it? Abbey Road aint cheap!

It's already 6 years since then though so they'd want to start thinking about it in the not too distant future, otherwise the remastering itself (which, let's be honest, is of ambiguous merit - people surely buy these things for the extra/new content) will feel old-hat.

Getting Jarvis engaged is probably the big obstacle. He/Pulp don't need the money from a reissue campaign, for them it would be more about legacy. Mark's championing of it - and his understanding of what uber-fans want - he being one of The Velvet Underground and The Beach Boys himself (I made this point when I met him!) might be our best chance, if JC just relinquishes a little control...

Eamonn wrote:

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And it's not like there's been nowt since. Universal presumably paid for the Abbey Road studio time when Steve and Jarv remastered the back-cat in 2019. So far the fruits of that have been new vinyl editions of HnH later that year and - encouragingly, Intro just last year.

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 (sorry for off topic, but...) I didn't realise that Intro was remastered. For anyone who has it, do you think it sounds good / better than original?