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CDs/online? I can't remember the last time I played a CD, other than the Pulp Mojo one. Everything else is Spotify/Bandcamp/nicked from Soulseek.

More in the charts. No. 5 in the second week. Did not expect anything that high in the charts. Amazing sustaining!

"At what point would the Jarv Is people be considered members of Pulp?"
They seem to have made it pretty clear that Andrew and Emma are Pulp. Richard and Jason too, I presume?

As for Mark and Candida staying? Both of them clearly love it on stage. Mark does have a young kid about to enter tricky teenage years! But then again, with modern touring, it's more of an odd night away every few nights, than constantly away for weeks on end (apart from the US leg, of course!)



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Dropped quite a bit from its midweek position of 12 to finish at 29 in week three of it's release in the UK album charts.

Of course a barnstorming performance tomorrow in Somerset, with the nation watching on the telly would catapult it back into the top ten...

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Interest in the band has probably dropped slightly because the UK tour has finished. Yes, absolutely, that would almost certainly turn around if they performed at Glastonbury tomorrow.

If "More" is still in the charts next week, it will have spent longer than "We Love Life" did. In terms of chart positions alone (which I understand work totally differently now), it has already done better: 1/5/29 vs 6/27/59.

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Wow, We Love Life really did poorly ending up at #6...

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Wow, We Love Life really did poorly ending up at #6...

 Pop was pretty much king at that time. Steps, Westlife, Robbie and Kylie dominated the album charts for the last few months of 2001, followed by Pop Idol taking off in the spring of 2002. Being a Pulp fan wasn't very cool (not that I've ever been that cool).



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There's plenty of indie/rock LPs in this list, however they are David Gray, Stereophonics, Travis, Linkin Park, Limp Bizkit, U2, Toploader... not the best time for music imo.

bestsellingalbums.org/year-end/UK_Top_Albums_2001



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It's still Top Ten in the vinyl charts. Which must mean that even though it takes a lot of streams to equate to an album sale, certain (younger) artists with a younger fanbase must cane the fcuk out of Spotify/Apple etc. to get high album chart entries.

In France, More dropped from 26 to 86 in week two.
Austria loves them, week one was 5, week two is 22.
Switzerland 7 to 48.
Germany 9 to 49


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I think they'll still chart next week. I mean, it's Pulp Summer!

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Hopefully the good vibes will lead to a third single. I want to see a classic Pulp music video set in the 2020s!

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Eamonn wrote:

Hopefully the good vibes will lead to a third single. I want to see a classic Pulp music video set in the 2020s!

 Just a thought: the last time anyone played a member of Pulp in a Pulp video, it was Gareth Dickenson pretending to be Jarvis, whilst the real Jarvis was being Brian May (not his worst attempt at impersonating a celebrity).



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I love how we all automatically know what you're referencing, Stephen.

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#34 this week, not bad.

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I think that Glastonbury may have stemmed what would have otherwise been a drop out of the top 40. A much better trajectory than "We Love Life".

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Yeah, a lot of competition this week between new releases (Lorde, The Boss) and other Glasto acts (Rod, Charli, Olivia) getting a boost. Youngblud who went straight in at 1 last week, is only 21 in week two. Goes to show how timing can affect an album's chart success but doesn't fully reflect whether sales are strong or not.

More has actually moved up in the physical sales from 8 to 5 this week. If streaming was weighted less, More would have been top ten for four consecutive weeks in the main album charts just like it is in physical only. And the weighting of streams doesn't link to the monetary value so I'm sure Rough Trade are more than happy that it's not a one-week-wonder like so many albums now are (ie Haim, who didn't get much of a Glasto boost - their new album went from number 3 in the main album charts in its opening week to 93 this week).


One of the few albums to sell more than Different Class in 1995/96, Alanis Morissette's Jagged Little Pill, also sneaked into the Top 40 this week off the back of her well-recieved Glastonbury set. Made me wonder if Different Class or Hits got close to the Top 100.

Also, I got some numbers for More's first three weeks. 40,869 units/streaming equivalent sold in the UK. 46% were vinyl, 29% CD, 15% digital and 10% streams. For the four weeks to June 27th it was number 3 in the UK for total sales. The two artists above them were pop behemoths Sheeran and Carpenter. But look at their mix of sales - 95% and 92% respectively for streaming - just a tiny percentage for LP and CD.
For the same four-week period, More was the best-selling LP and second-best selling CD.

As Ian suggests, I'd expect the album to possibly bomb out of the Top 100 kept week or certainly be low down but it may have more longevity in the vinyl chart i.e tangible sales.



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Honestly, back in the 2000s, I was more into Coldplay and Travis ... those "new" bands. However, it didn't last too long; I wouldn't say I am a fan of those bands. When I went back to WWL a few years later, this album was so great. For me, and most people here, Pulp is like a fine wine. The music I never feel old and can listen to it all the time. Some artists' albums I can just listen to for a while, then feel bored. But not Pulp. I really hope WWL will have a deluxe version.

I read some posts after Glasto, Pulp's gained great reviews in many major media, which surely helped More on the chart. Let's have a Pulp Summer!



-- Edited by lucyduck on Saturday 5th of July 2025 05:27:08 AM

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It's interesting to speculate how well "More" may have been received and performed in the charts if it was released in place of "We Love Life" in 2001.

I'd say with the same two singles before it (which may have both reached the top 10) and maybe "Background Noise" after, it would have probably performed similarly to how it has now. The singles would have probably been reviewed along the lines of "A welcome return to form after the misery of "This is Hardcore"" (their opinion, not mine) then I think that they would have picked up on the complexity and variation of the album itself.

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I don't think people in their mid-to-late-30s could have made More.

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46 in the update.

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"The Official Top 40 best-selling vinyl albums of 2025 so far" that posted on July 8, More got No. 5. I think it is really good, this album just released about 1 month ago. Also, the rest on the Top 5 are pop, for indie music, this is not bad. 

Link: https://www.officialcharts.com/chart-news/the-official-best-selling-vinyl-albums-and-singles-of-2025/



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Beating Fontaines and Chappell is INSANE.

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Kinda but those albums were both released last year, weren't they ?

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Big drop to 94 this week in the UK album charts. Expected as there was no promo boost from high-profile UK shows like in recent weeks and clearly they're not arsed about flogging the album on big radio shows or BBC Breakfast.

Still holding up strong in the vinyl and physical charts - top ten on both in week five of release. No mean feat at all.

And fair ****s to Scotland. At a lofty number 15, its first week out of the Top ten.

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Surprised the big gap between stream and physical sells. I have 2 vinyls and cd, ya, I still use stream and loop the album while working since it was released. I reckon artists earn more from stream nowadays. Even the top 1 vinyl in 2025 so far is about 43,000 copies. I feel old now

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lucyduck wrote:

Surprised the big gap between stream and physical sells. I have 2 vinyls and cd, ya, I still use stream and loop the album while working since it was released. I reckon artists earn more from stream nowadays. Even the top 1 vinyl in 2025 so far is about 43,000 copies. I feel old now

I read somewhere, and can't find it now, that the profit margins (for artists) on CDs & LPs are quite good, CDs (including the booklets) cost just pence to produce. So even with these smaller volumes the income is an ok amount of money, in terms of the artist share. Obviously the streaming part is much larger for the number of consumers, but the earnings from it are miserable for all but a handful global superstars. Tours and merch are the only way to go, and I think more and more artists will follow the patreon / only fans route - even in Scandinavia they (probably) won't ban pictures of Lily Allen's feet and Kate Nash's bum.

(edit to fix a stray apostrophe - CD's - I always get that wrong!)



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