I hope that nobody here lives in S****horpe.

Without paying for the forum, there is no way that we can switch the profanity filter off. Seems a bit odd to have something like that as a premium feature.

23,600 sales as of tonight, apparently outselling the rest of the top five put together!

Yep looking out for it on aus charts. This has to be one of my fav websites if you want to have a look. Like a Power BI dashboard sucking in Pulp data.

Ah no! I'd just woke up & totally messed that up! 

I've been back to edit the figures :) 

And the takings were down by at least a third, as far as Universal were concerned ! All that swanky studio time to be paid for (ie Roger Taylor from Queen's manor) ....yikes.

The band being half-arsed in helping may also have contributed.

And Pulp made it hard for them in fairness. There was no obvious single to sell WLL, sadly. Two years racking-up studio bills for a second time in a row...no new contract or album deal for you misshapes. You can see why a new corporate team of decision-makers once Universal took over, acted in that way.

I remember hearing Trees being played on Radio 1 for the first time and feeling rather underwhelmed at first. Of course I later warmed to it and it soon became a fave, but it certainly wasn't as immediate as other songs.

Weeds
Minnie
even Birds (mellow but catchy at least)
BCV as a first single rather than an after-the-horse-has-bolted last gasp.

All of those would've made more sense than Trees/Sunrise for me. Ultimately though, would it have made any difference? Looking back (and especially thanks to the insights in Mark and Nick's books) they were clearly done with it all by 2001/02, and I can't imagine a couple of higher chart placings making much difference to that.

It's a shame they weren't able to catch the wave they were on in 1999, when most of those songs were written. Bit like how Freaks would probably have been more exciting if they'd made it in 1984 rather than 1986. But I digress...

Not sure to when this was i.e end of Tuesday or sometime today:


Pulp could secure No.1 with eighth studio album More
by MusicWeek Staff
Wednesday, Jun 11th 2025 at 6:00PM

Pulp continue to lead the way in the albums chart this week with their eighth studio album More, which has accumulated 26,966 sales so far. Of that total sales figure, 20,414 units account for its physical release, whilst downloads make up 5,187 and streams account for 1,365.

Little Simz holds second place with Lotus, which has 12,105 sales so far, whilst Addison Raes self-titled debut LP has 10,653 sales at No.3. Sabrina Carpenter has returned to the Top 5 at ...

lipglossed wrote:

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'Sunrise' has a hook though. First time I'd ever heard it, I was sure I recognised it.

It should've been released as a single in 2000. And 'Minnie' sounds so much more like a single than anything else Pulp released between 'Help the Aged' and 'Spike Island' (except for maybe 'Party Hard').

-- Edited by lipglossed on Thursday 12th of June 2025 12:15:56 AM

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"Sunrise" really got people's attention in 2000. By the time it was actually released, the novelty had worn off. I don't think that "We Love Life" has anything that could have been a huge hit. In fact, they abandoned two songs at the time that easily fit this description (After You and Got to Have Love). That said, "Weeds" would have probably been a decent enough comeback single. I don't believe that the top 10 was completely out of reach in 2001. 

I think that Island/Universal were chasing hits and to be fair, they did seem to make a lot of effort with Pulp prior to "We Love Life" (for example, "Sorted For E's and Wizz" as a single, the "This is Hardcore" video). When the band left them in 2002, they said it was because they had been offered a "much reduced" record deal. If there were more hits, they may have signed a single album deal and got something out a year or so later. Jarvis did say that they started writing new songs immediately after "We Love Life" was released so we may have got another album.   

lipglossed wrote:

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'Sunrise' has a hook though. First time I'd ever heard it, I was sure I recognised it.

It should've been released as a single in 2000. And 'Minnie' sounds so much more like a single than anything else Pulp released between 'Help the Aged' and 'Spike Island' (except for maybe 'Party Hard').

-- Edited by lipglossed on Thursday 12th of June 2025 12:15:56 AM

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Sorry to disagree! XD Leaving aside the fact that "The Night That Minnie..." is possibly the only Pulp song I truly hate, I don't think it's a song that has any commercial radio play. Not to mention how poorly the song's melody fits with its subject matter: a girl murdered by a guy who invites her into his van. I don´t see it suceeding, tbh.  For me it's a failed song, but of course i know its only my opinion (I've noticed many people here seems to  dislike "TV Movie" which is one of my fav Pulp songs ever, so i might be wrong...)

https://www.officialcharts.com/chart-news/pulp-more-number-1-album/