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Jarv just has a knack for writing something from his own experience that can still speak to others with completely different experiences. Its something that has always struck me with his lyrics. Theres so much to be gleaned from them beyond the initial meaning. __________________ The trees, those useless trees, produce the air that I am breathing

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Absolutely. I've also always loved that he writes as a man who grew up in a home full of women. Do folks have thoughts about any of the songs on More possibly being written for his mom? __________________

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Great analysis jarvcore. The "two silences stitched together" stumped me at first but it does read as the power of the unsayable during intimacy where both partners are actually in-sync and content. I've been really disappointed in some of the reviews dismissal of the song. Will Hodgkinson was quick to say something like "Does anyone want to hear a 61 year old man talk about his sex?"....it's like, mate, it's about so much more than that... Re Jarvis talking about his mum on the album...I think Hymn Of The North probably took-on greater significance after her death. Because even though Albert, his son, was at the forefront of his mind when he wrote it, he's also said in recent interviews how he feels bad about not being in touch with Christine sometimes for more than a month or two, and how he would hate that to ever be the case between him and his son. The chorus lyrics of "Background Noise" could also be interpreted about how family-love is taken for granted even if the song has its roots in his temporary split from Kim. __________________ Tell mester to fck off!*

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Thanks, Eamonn. I didn't know that Jarvis was thinking of Albert when writing Hymn of the North. __________________

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Jarvis has extensively talked about being a "different" kind of man, it's nothing new. I guess the title may be is a little too "crude" but fits the era we live in. People talk about those kinda thing more directly. But i mean : I'm a Man, Mis Shapes, We are the Boyz, Dishes, I Never Said I was Deep... only a few i can think of right now. There's countless songs where Jarvis adresses the subject. It was more "hidden" in the lyrics before that's it. (Well not really, but maybe people didn't pay that much attention) __________________

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1. The Hymn of The North 2. Grown Ups 3. Partial Eclipse 4. Spike Island 5. Got To Have Love 6. Slow Jam 7. Background Noise 8. Farmers Market 9. A Sunset 10. My Sex 11. Tina __________________ Won't it be strange when we're all fully grown?

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andy wrote: Eamonn wrote: Slow Jam will be your number one by the end of the summer No way, i always hated bass like that. Its been that way since the 90s and wont ever change Me too - makes me wince every time I hear it - and the anticipation of the awful note ruins a great song for me! __________________

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Updated ranking: 1. Slow Jam 2. Tina 3. Got to Have Love 4. Grown Ups 5. My Sex 6. The Hymn of the North 7. Background Noise 8. Partial Eclipse 9-11 tied - Spike Island, Farmers Market, A Sunset It's such a good album, every song's great. __________________ It's OK. It's just your mind.

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My Sex In the very beginning, I was like what? But I knew Jarvis wouldnt let me down. I love Jarvis romantic, if I can say so. The way he describes things is so unique, it always touches me. Really appreciate everyones information and opinions about this song, I did read the lyrics while listening to it today. It is way more than its title. Slow Jam I cant help thinking if Steve was alive, what does he do about the bass?! __________________ Won't it be strange when we're all fully grown?

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lucyduck wrote: My Sex In the very beginning, I was like what? But I knew Jarvis wouldnt let me down. I love Jarvis romantic, if I can say so. The way he describes things is so unique, it always touches me. Really appreciate everyones information and opinions about this song, I did read the lyrics while listening to it today. It is way more than its title. Slow Jam I cant help thinking if Steve was alive, what does he do about the bass?! I agree, Jarvis talks about Sex sometimes in a very dirty way, buts its not dirty, its classy. Weird right ? As for Steve, its hard to speak for someone who isn't there anymore, but I highly doubt he would have greenlighted that bass. Could be wrong though, but Pulp never sounded 80s, even in the 80s, they sounded like Pulp. Must be a producer idea. I dont mind a bass like that on Seinfeld or the ALF theme show but it really represents the 80s, it's very cliché. Perhaps the only mistake of the record. -- Edited by andy on Thursday 12th of June 2025 06:57:05 AM __________________

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It's only a few pulses in the verses. The rest of the arrangement and those amazing choruses are so beautiful. Please, you can't throw our relationship away over an affair with a bit of slap bass... __________________ Tell mester to fck off!*

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Slow Jam's great because of that bass. Sure, it's not what you might expect of Pulp, but when have we ever wanted them to stay confined to the same formula? Maybe Steve wouldn't have gone for it but I'm sure he wouldn't have begrudged the band going on and them/Andrew doing something different. And let's face it, it's hardly Mark King from Level 42. -- Edited by Pip on Thursday 12th of June 2025 09:35:43 AM __________________

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Plus Jarvis is way funnier than Jerry frickin' Seinfeld. __________________ Tell mester to fck off!*

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I love slap bass. __________________

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Eamonn wrote: Plus Jarvis is way funnier than Jerry frickin' Seinfeld. I love Seinfeld, come on ! I'm sure Jarvis loves the show, but maybe its too american for some The theme is so stupid, yet it's iconic. __________________

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lucyduck wrote: My Sex In the very beginning, I was like what? But I knew Jarvis wouldnt let me down. I love Jarvis romantic, if I can say so. The way he describes things is so unique, it always touches me. Really appreciate everyones information and opinions about this song, I did read the lyrics while listening to it today. It is way more than its title. Slow Jam I cant help thinking if Steve was alive, what does he do about the bass?! he 100% wouldn't do that twang! __________________

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That should have been your ice-breaker when you saw the lads in the queue for their flight from Glasgow to Dublin! __________________ Tell mester to fck off!*

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weener wrote: lucyduck wrote: My Sex In the very beginning, I was like what? But I knew Jarvis wouldnt let me down. I love Jarvis romantic, if I can say so. The way he describes things is so unique, it always touches me. Really appreciate everyones information and opinions about this song, I did read the lyrics while listening to it today. It is way more than its title. Slow Jam I cant help thinking if Steve was alive, what does he do about the bass?! he 100% wouldn't do that twang! Agreed, he was a classy bass player, not showing off 80s style. Glad i'm not the only one on this hehe. -- Edited by andy on Thursday 12th of June 2025 01:41:34 PM __________________

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So now we are nearly a week in, I wouldn't say that my original thoughts have changed too much. "A Sunset" has grown on me slightly but it still does very little. I can't get "Tina" out of my head but that isn't a bad thing. "Grown Ups" has, er, grown on me too; it's probably the song that took me the longest to get used to. All in all, a solid comeback and I think that it will stand the test of time better than "We Love Life" has. Strangely enough, when that was released, people were quick to tell us that "This isn't Pulp's attempt at a Scott Walker record" but "More" has at least 3 songs that could have easily fit on Walker's late 1960s albums. __________________ What is this feeling called live? www.feelingcalledlive.co.uk For the latest Pulp news and information, sign up to our mailing list.

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My current order of favourites, 5-9 all interchangeable as all incredibly strong songs. 1. Background Noise 2. Farmers Market 3. Tina 4. Partial Eclipse 5. Spike Island 6. Grown Ups 7. Got To Have Love 8. Slow Jam 9. My Sex 10. A Sunset 11. The Hymn Of The North Jury is out on Open Strings until it becomes widely available. __________________ https://nautmusic.bandcamp.com/

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My Sex is a real grower!! But I think Got To Have Love has to be my favourite right now. A side note... the opening to it sounds very Radiohead... has anyone else noticed that? __________________

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Street Spirit, Am arpeggio, yeah. I saw some posts calling it a rip-off which is a stretch. __________________ Tell mester to fck off!*

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Such a difference having the physical copy to listen to because I can hear the individual instruments so much more distinctly. Very hard to rank them but here goes: 1. The Hymn of the North 2. My Sex 3. Got to Have Love 4. Slow Jam 5. Background Noise 6. A Sunset 7. Grown Ups 8. Farmers Market 9. Spike Island 10. Tina 11. Partial Eclipse I feel bad putting anything last. Partial Eclipse is playing as I write this and I'm enjoying it. The violin is beautiful. I don't just automatically love everything Pulp do but I really struggled earlier when a friend asked me if there was anything I don't like. I find merit in almost everything. I love b sides. I love Goodnight. I love Forever in my Dreams. I don't know why exactly but I can find good in almost everything Pulp do. I think what helps is I love Jarvis' voice. I have never cared whether someone is technically the best singer. What gets me is the accent, the authenticity, the emotion. Jarvis has all of that in bucket loads. The band have the authenticity and soul in feckin buckets too. Maybe it's because they've been there all my life too and bring me back to happier days. It's a mix of do many things maybe. I don't know,. As Noel Gallagher would say, 'damn my education, I can't find the words to say'. You know what though, I don't need to overanalyse it either. All I know is they move me and that's such a powerful thing. Music is a universal language, the only one. They can make me happy, they can make me cry. The album is so full of heart and soul and that's all i care about really. HOTN is playing now. My favourite ever. I'm so happy that like my other hero, Bowie, they are producing some of their best work ever in their autumnal years. Pulp, all I can say is thank you for soundtracking yet another fantastic voyage. Thank you so much for producing new work and continuing to be your amazing selves. I wish you every luck and happiness forever. There's so many highlights. More is brilliant. __________________

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Ian wrote: "More" has at least 3 songs that could have easily fit on Walker's late 1960s albums. When listening to More, a lot of the songs make me think of French chanson. Can't put my finger on what it is, maybe lots of semi-spoken singing, and the conversational parts of some of the lyrics. Triggered me to dig out Scott 1-4, a Jacques Brel comp, and some of the chanson comps I have. Been listening to them all week alongside More. Also find it quite moving to find all the echoes and call-backs to Pulps back catalogue, yet it's also new and a step forward. What band in their 60s has come back so well? The backing vocals, having the JARV IS sound jarred at first, but I've got over that now. On the subject of favourite, I've shifted from Grown Ups to Hymn. The song I initially disliked, A Sunset, growing on me too. __________________

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Haha, I dont dislike Andrew. He is a great musician with no doubt. Bass is my favourite instrument in the band. Whenever I hear the bass from Pulps songs, the image of Steve playing bass is in my head. I believe they tried many different style for Slow Jam and picked up the best. Honestly, after the discussions about My Sex, I like it more. Ya. Tina, I like it the least among the 11 songs. But this was the song in my head the whole evening after the first time I finished the whole album. XD A Sunset is so different. The music is by Richard Hawley, so it is not Pulp style. I like it because I like RH And maybe they dont have enough material so put this in this album. __________________ Won't it be strange when we're all fully grown?