Eamonn wrote:

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Temper your expectations! 2048 on their deathbeds probably.

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 Just a few months ago another Pulp album seemed impossible to me. After Steve, didn't think I even wanted another, and now it's here in my ears, and I'm in love.

My Sex - the numbers at the end remind me of Just by David Lang (and a bit of Einstein On The Beach), and I'm sure we had something before from Jarvis or JARV IS that had that sound.

I was sure I read/saw somewhere that the album booklet/LP inner-sleeve contained liner notes from Jarvis with his commentary on the songs. Looks like I imagined it unless someone knows any different?!

its 9:30 and Im in my PJs drinking tea thinking about toast with raspberry jam and Slow Jam just made me exit my body for nearly half a minute and Im not sure where I went but there were sharp prickles and though it was cold, I was warm

Yeah, I read this and kept looking for them until I found the this is the best we can do comment, which I think was part of the commentary I saw trailed somewhere or other. Unless it was in that snazzy embossed white version of the vinyl?

 

whoops - forgot to quote Eamonn talking about the missing liner notes there

 

-- Edited by superchob on Sunday 8th of June 2025 10:17:30 AM

I've got the embossed double, and sadly no snazzy notes there - has the lyrics in the inner gatefold, and the credits are on the liners, so nothing more (other than 4 non-band b/w images). Tis nice though. Though my favourite More is the cassette, very cute.

Pip wrote:

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andy wrote:

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lipglossed wrote:

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I think Pulp's always been so many people and incarnations. So I see them all as Pulp - all nine of them are full Pulp to me.

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I dont know, most (not all) promo pics features only 4 "original" members. I guess they worked out the legal side of songwriting and performing, but i doubt any of the "new" ones are officially Pulp. They are in Pulp recording and touring band though. As special guests. 

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It's not unusual for bands to have 'unofficial' members e.g. Genesis were the same five piece on tour for decades but always a three piece on record. I guess the waters are a bit muddied by the fact that several of the others have songwriting credits, especially Andrew & Emma. But so has Richard Hawley, and I don't think anyone sees him as a serious member of Pulp.

Personally I don't deny them all their place as Pulp people, cos it's fair to say the new songs simply wouldn't have happened without them.

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Yeah they are indeed part of it, but like you said, Hawley before on TIH was very important, and he was never a "real" member. I guess "spiritually"and "musically" they are members but not legally. 

I asked Uncle Nick on the Red Hand files what he thought about Pulp's return but he hasn't bothered to answer.

lipglossed wrote:

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andy wrote:

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lipglossed wrote:

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I think Pulp's always been so many people and incarnations. So I see them all as Pulp - all nine of them are full Pulp to me.

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I dont know, most (not all) promo pics features only 4 "original" members. I guess they worked out the legal side of songwriting and performing, but i doubt any of the "new" ones are officially Pulp. They are in Pulp recording and touring band though. As special guests. 

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 I mean, I said that was in my view, not formally officially or anything.

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hehe yes. Well, aren't we all Pulp members in the end ?   (we wish)

Grown Ups is such a monster. I really wonder how the TIH version sounds. I hope they have at least a proper demo of it, although Pulpwiki seems to mention music only and no words. Its from the same session of the 2006 released demos so maybe, perhaps, hopefully ?

My Alternate More ! the first 2 tracks work so well back to back. They should have re-recorded After You but the 2012 version fit quite good on the record. So there you go, its on it now for me !

Got to Have Love also works better after Grown Ups, than thrown in the middle of the record like that. Then we swim deep in more mellow territories with Slow Jam and My Sex. The two songs also work better back to back than with Farmers Markets in the middle, which i find a bit weird.

Then we go back to more traditional Pulp with Background Noise and off to the end of the record : Hymn the North and Farmers Market are also 2 songs that flow together. Much more balanced. An introspective end of record. Open Strings is logically a bside, a bit redundant with other track and i couldn't find a spot either. 

Spike Island
After You
Tina
Grown Ups
Got To Have Love
Slow Jam
My Sex
Background Noise
Partial Eclipse
Hymn
Farmers Market
A Sunset

The trackisting really bothered me, but its much better now. At least for me !

-- Edited by andy on Monday 9th of June 2025 01:42:39 PM

Grown Ups is my favourite. Still, may change, tis only the 1st week. Doesn't seem like it, will be in danger of draining it if I go on like this.

No way. They are more than capable of writing top new songs in 2025. And they have a few left over from last year apparently tha they didn't record .

Plus those songs have already been on a release even if it's a reissue - apart Quiet Revolution. But Jarvis said he might go angry on the next record so that would possibly not fit.

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So now that Pulp have dug Got to Have Love and Grown Ups from the past. What are the chances we get Street operator, You are the One, or Quiet Revolution on the next album ?

Street Operator is single material, the other could really work as album track. Why not, on a "lighter" themed album ? Let's go !

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 ...Cuckoo Song, please!