It sounds great on speakers but a bit thin on Airpod Max i gotta say. Like a demo. It was less obvious on Spike Island. Better on Sony headphones in the same league as Airpod Max. Much more detailed and layered, with some very subtle bits you cant hear otherwise.
It must be a nightmare to be an album mixer nowadays
One other minor observation: just like After your, they over simplified some great parts. What do you think that is ? Synths especially.
-- Edited by andy on Friday 23rd of May 2025 02:53:05 PM
Did Jarvis backtrack on the IA ? On Spike Island there was a "to be continued", that may or may not hinted at a new AI video, yet Got to Have Love is not. or is he obviously going the "human" route.
I read the "To Be Continued" as either a) AI is only going to become more prevalent and/or b) a future Pulp video would feature our Fantastic Four as themselves in human flesh battling robots with their weapons (Gibson guitar, drumkit and Farfisa).
It would be a shame if there are no more singles and we don't get to see an official/professionally directed and shot 2025 video of the band.
Does anyone know if the BVs on this song are sampled from another song from the past? And are they the same as the vocals on the 1999 demo?
Also, is the word "to" non-capitalised on purpose in the title - Got to Have Love ?
I read the "To Be Continued" as either a) AI is only going to become more prevalent and/or b) a future Pulp video would feature our Fantastic Four as themselves in human flesh battling robots with their weapons (Gibson guitar, drumkit and Farfisa).
It would be a shame if there are no more singles and we don't get to see an official/professionally directed and shot 2025 video of the band.
Does anyone know if the BVs on this song are sampled from another song from the past? And are they the same as the vocals on the 1999 demo?
Also, is the word "to" non-capitalised on purpose in the title - Got to Have Love ?
They probably decided that they are too old to dance like that in videos. I dont think they will appear in any video.
-- Edited by andy on Saturday 24th of May 2025 01:11:03 PM
I always thought that "to be continued" was a reference to future Pulp material.
It got me thinking this morning: are the backing vocals (in any version) sampled from elsewhere? The late 90s/early 2000s seemed like a time where they used a few samples (This is Hardcore / That Boy's Evil / Wickerman / The Trees / Last Day of the Miners Strike)
I always thought that "to be continued" was a reference to future Pulp material.
It got me thinking this morning: are the backing vocals (in any version) sampled from elsewhere? The late 90s/early 2000s seemed like a time where they used a few samples (This is Hardcore / That Boy's Evil / Wickerman / The Trees / Last Day of the Miners Strike)
I doubt they are since they are the chore of the song, the main hook. We'll see the credits, if there is an outside songwriting credit for it. They used quite a lot of female vocals back then too.
I think there's been the one or two samples uncredited by Jarvis in the past - Discosong on Further Complications is based on Rolling Down The Hills by Glass Candy but I'm not sure that's mentioned in the liner notes.
I think there's been the one or two samples uncredited by Jarvis in the past - Discosong on Further Complications is based on Rolling Down The Hills by Glass Candy but I'm not sure that's mentioned in the liner notes.
As a songwriter i would find it very odd to use a sample like that and not mention it clearly, it's like the chorus of the song, it's the main theme. So it should be credited. Plus Jarvis is never shy went it comes to giving credits. I gotta say i'm curious to know more.
I check Rolling Down The Hills by Glass Candy, indeed there is no doubt that its a sample hehe. But then the melody over it is completely different. Just like Black Magic. Its the backbone of the song.
Street Spirit by Radiohead is what people are saying but an arpeggiated minor chord ain't exclusive. They've already sampled some 70s funk, let's let them off this one...
Street Spirit by Radiohead is what people are saying but an arpeggiated minor chord ain't exclusive. They've already sampled some 70s funk, let's let them off this one...
Yeah this is two different things. A chord, an arpeggio or even an entire chord structure cant really be considered as plagiarism, or borrowing. It's a tool, like when a construction worked uses a hammer. Even a sample to make a cool rhythm or sound, to create new music.
A melody is different though. That does not take away the quality of the song, but since we've lived with the demo for what 20 years now ? I always thought this was theirs 100%, wondering what it would sound like finished, why they didn't use it, questioning their choices, like the rest of WLL demos.
And obviously there is a bit of "WTF" or letdown moment here, but it will pass ! Sampling is fine, i really dont mind it. Just a bit surprised that they use this a single then.
Personally, the sound of the guitar in that intro is strongly evocative of WLL. I know that is probably an obvious point to make round here, but its like a partially-uncovered artefact within the glossy new recording that bespeaks its origins. Even setting aside its status as a demo from around that time, it wouldnt have sounded out of place in Wickerman had they added another section. I reckon!
-- Edited by superchob on Tuesday 27th of May 2025 03:10:25 PM
Personally, the sound of the guitar in that intro is strongly evocative of WLL. I know that is probably an obvious point to make round here, but its like a partially-uncovered artefact within the glossy new recording that bespeaks its origins. Even setting aside its status as a demo from around that time, it wouldnt have sounded out of place in Wickerman had they added another section. I reckon!
-- Edited by superchob on Tuesday 27th of May 2025 03:10:25 PM
I agree. There was room for this, After You, Cuckoo and the Quiet revolution on We Love Life.
I'd still want to to here Got to Have Love vocal version from 1999, it sounded a bit more disco and rough. the More version is very lush.