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"Got to Have Love" has now been released as the second single from "More"

Well, I was lucky enough to hear it and see the video last night as someone ripped it then uploaded it to Reddit before quickly taking it down.

What can I say? It's probably their most up-front and in your face single since "Disco 2000" and the final version further reinforces my initial thoughts that it would have been a huge hit in 2000/2001. I always considered the instrumental demo as b-side material and never seriously considered what the vocal version may sound like. 

Not too sure about the video, it is certainly fun but it must be the only Pulp video that does not feature the band in some way or other (even as cardboard cutouts, Jarvis on the TV or AI animated photos.



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Brilliant choice for the next single. Sounds like a summer song love it!

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I love this song. Feels urgent. 

And those strings, perfect. 



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I've scoured the Pulpmania archive but I can't find that "Got to have love" chorus.. Where the heck have I heard that before?
Is it one of the Deluxe albums or something?

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Ok, that's a triple A Banger.

I want to sing, I want to dance on it! Oh they're back, back in shape, a big heart shape.

glad we're almost all alive to hear it, and More

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Class act.

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I love it. It's great to hear the lyrics and vocals properly. Like Spike Island, the recorded version seems to have raised the game from what was already an excellent demo/live version

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Ok, there we go. PulpWiki.
*tsk*
I knew I'd heard that somewhere.



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Jayenkai wrote:

I've scoured the Pulpmania archive but I can't find that "Got to have love" chorus.. Where the heck have I heard that before?
Is it one of the Deluxe albums or something?


 The 1999 demo leaked years ago, it can be downloaded from my website



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At least I'm not going crazy... :)

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It's not Chappell or Charli but I guess it'll do

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Check out Pulp's new single, 'Got To Have Love' if you can. It's the sound of the summer.

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Bloody hell, there are a lot more there than I remember there being! Did more come to light over the years?

Never listened to Got To Have Love before. In any form. But bloody hell, it's an absolute banger. The new one, that is. Can't believe they sat on it for 26 years...

 



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Sitting and listening on the big speakers with a glass of red wine & absolutely loving it.

I think the vocals are a bit low compared to Spike Island, but all in all it's a bloody belter.

It does sound like it could have been recorded a while ago, though it obviously wasn't. Edit: I think what I'm getting at there is that it has a timeless Pulp quality about it, which is helped by the fact that it was initially written long ago.

I'm glad they brought it back and did it justice!



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Probably just me, but I keep hearing Anorexic Beauty in the mix. Dunno why...

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The spoken word bit in the radio edit is a different recording... I REALLY like it. I hope it gets a release of its own.

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I think the drums are pretty different to the previously heard versions. They are more complex in the studio recording


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Lovely to see Steve listed in the credits. I'm surprised in a way that the extended band from this era are also listed as writers (including Nick Ingman....who he?).

The bones of the song remains the same as the 1999 demo. It now has bells and whistles thanks to Ford's production, Mark's lead-guitar and of course Jarvis' vocal melody for the verses and his spoken-word bit.

It seems generous of Jarvis/Pulp to cut-in another five people on the publishing.

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Mix is a bit weird though. Synth and voice too low in the mix i thought, but hey, cant complain. They wanted it to be a drum n bass song obviously.

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Same feeling here! Song is great, but I hear Jarvis' voice struggling a little bit, specially at first. Unpopular opinion: i think i like more "Spike Island", sorry... Not so danceable, obviously, but closer to the classic Pulp sound.
legohairjordan wrote:

Sitting and listening on the big speakers with a glass of red wine & absolutely loving it.

I think the vocals are a bit low compared to Spike Island, but all in all it's a bloody belter.

It does sound like it could have been recorded a while ago, though it obviously wasn't. Edit: I think what I'm getting at there is that it has a timeless Pulp quality about it, which is helped by the fact that it was initially written long ago.

I'm glad they brought it back and did it justice!



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Probably just me, but I keep hearing Anorexic Beauty in the mix. Dunno why...


 I listened again looking for that and I could get bits in the instrumental sections after the first two choruses, especially a couple of twangs after the second chorus as it drops for the spoken work section.



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The spoken word bit in the radio edit is a different recording... I REALLY like it. I hope it gets a release of its own.


  The spoken word bit seems much more immediate than they normally do, like Jarvis is talking down your ear. Startled me a bit the first time on the radio. The radio edit is only half of that section, without the rambly first half. Would "ponce" have got through the radio edit or have to be dipped like "jerking"? It always amuses me that "screw" had to be replaced in 1994 on DYRTFT but was acceptable by 1995. 



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Really good!

Question - is it just me or is the audio quality on the YouTube video a bit off? The vocals in particular just seem to pop more on Spotify.

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Same feeling here! Song is great, but I hear Jarvis' voice struggling a little bit, specially at first. Unpopular opinion: i think i like more "Spike Island", sorry... Not so danceable, obviously, but closer to the classic Pulp sound. 

 

I thought it sounded like a weird gap between the Separations Era and His n Hers Era. Or like a distant sister of We Can Dance Again. Both songs were rejected back then because they did not belong to their era apparently. 



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Yeah, snap on the Separations era feeling. It calls to mind We Can Dance Again for me though which is obviously later. I'm not a fan of WCDA but absolutely love this. I only got to listen on my phone yesterday but today I can blast it out of the speaker which brings outthe bass guitar and drums so much more. I am looking forward to buying an actual physical copy to realy do justice to the sound because I can listen then on a proper system.
Loving the drums. Nick could've done something more simplistic but loving it. It really booms out of a speaker this song. Brilliant. Well done lads and lassies. It's a cracker.

Edit: meant to say as well - the spoken word bit. Shivers down the spine. That's brilliant that.



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It sounds great on speakers but a bit thin on Airpod Max i gotta say. Like a demo. It was less obvious on Spike Island. Better on Sony headphones in the same league as Airpod Max. Much more detailed and layered, with some very subtle bits you cant hear otherwise. 

It must be a nightmare to be an album mixer nowadays

One other minor observation: just like After your, they over simplified some great parts. What do you think that is ? Synths especially. 

 



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I don't want to get carried away but it might be the best thing in recorded history

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Did Jarvis backtrack on the IA ? On Spike Island there was a "to be continued", that may or may not hinted at a new AI video, yet Got to Have Love is not. or is he obviously going the "human" route.

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I read the "To Be Continued" as either a) AI is only going to become more prevalent and/or b) a future Pulp video would feature our Fantastic Four as themselves in human flesh battling robots with their weapons (Gibson guitar, drumkit and Farfisa).

It would be a shame if there are no more singles and we don't get to see an official/professionally directed and shot 2025 video of the band.

Does anyone know if the BVs on this song are sampled from another song from the past? And are they the same as the vocals on the 1999 demo?

Also, is the word "to" non-capitalised on purpose in the title - Got to Have Love ?

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I read the "To Be Continued" as either a) AI is only going to become more prevalent and/or b) a future Pulp video would feature our Fantastic Four as themselves in human flesh battling robots with their weapons (Gibson guitar, drumkit and Farfisa).

It would be a shame if there are no more singles and we don't get to see an official/professionally directed and shot 2025 video of the band.

Does anyone know if the BVs on this song are sampled from another song from the past? And are they the same as the vocals on the 1999 demo?

Also, is the word "to" non-capitalised on purpose in the title - Got to Have Love ?


 

They probably decided that they are too old to dance like that in videos. I dont think they will appear in any video.  



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I always thought that "to be continued" was a reference to future Pulp material.

It got me thinking this morning: are the backing vocals (in any version) sampled from elsewhere? The late 90s/early 2000s seemed like a time where they used a few samples (This is Hardcore / That Boy's Evil / Wickerman / The Trees / Last Day of the Miners Strike)

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The strings on the spoken L. O. V. E. Are something else- this is one of their best in my opinion, loving the drums and the bass line too

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Ian wrote:

I always thought that "to be continued" was a reference to future Pulp material.

It got me thinking this morning: are the backing vocals (in any version) sampled from elsewhere? The late 90s/early 2000s seemed like a time where they used a few samples (This is Hardcore / That Boy's Evil / Wickerman / The Trees / Last Day of the Miners Strike)


 

I doubt they are since they are the chore of the song, the main hook. We'll see the credits, if there is an outside songwriting credit for it. They used quite a lot of female vocals back then too. 



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I haven't done an A/B but I think it's the same BVs, which I always assumed were a sample.

Lower case 'to' is correct - you're not supposed to capitalise a preposition!

The strings are great, really add depth

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could it be the The Swingle Sisters ? They did my body may die around that time. Nowhere is it mentionned it could be a sample

 

Im sure someone would have found where a potential sample would be from by now



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I think there's been the one or two samples uncredited by Jarvis in the past - Discosong on Further Complications is based on Rolling Down The Hills by Glass Candy but I'm not sure that's mentioned in the liner notes.

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I think there's been the one or two samples uncredited by Jarvis in the past - Discosong on Further Complications is based on Rolling Down The Hills by Glass Candy but I'm not sure that's mentioned in the liner notes.


 

As a songwriter i would find it very odd to use a sample like that and not mention it clearly, it's like the chorus of the song, it's the main theme. So it should be credited. Plus Jarvis is never shy went it comes to giving credits. I gotta say i'm curious to know more. 

I check Rolling Down The Hills by Glass Candy, indeed there is no doubt that its a sample hehe. But then the melody over it is completely different. Just like Black Magic. Its the backbone of the song. 



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Well i found it

It's indeed a sample

The new single by @welovepulp Got To Have Love, is out today! It samples a Wise Music copyright, Invention by Nick Ingman. Go have a listen

www.facebook.com/wmcreativeuk/posts/the-new-single-by-welovepulp-got-to-have-love-is-out-today-it-samples-a-wise-mus/1246425850821533/

Here is an excerpt, indeed it samples the main hook

https://www.hotgroovyrecords.it/nick-ingman-invention-p-9112.html

Gotta say i'm a bit disappointed on this one. Maybe that's why it remained unrealeased all those years ? 

But it is indeed credited on the youtube Pulp channel. 

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on a 11/12 tracks album they can use ONE sample, like they did on TIH, even if it's all the chorus

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on a 11/12 tracks album they can use ONE sample, like they did on TIH, even if it's all the chorus


Of course they can. 

TIH is different, it's like Disco Song and Black Magic, its the backing track. The song can exist without it 

I'd be uncomfortable as a songwriter to come back after 25 years with a single where the chorus melody is a sample, but that's just me ! 

Anyway, now we know.

On another note, After You fit so well between those two songs, it's like they were recorded at the same time smile



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on a 11/12 tracks album they can use ONE sample, like they did on TIH, even if it's all the chorus


Of course they can. 

TIH is different, it's like Disco Song and Black Magic, its the backing track. The song can exist without it 

I'd be uncomfortable as a songwriter to come back after 25 years with a single where the chorus melody is a sample, but that's just me ! 

Anyway, now we know.

 


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The sample makes the song for me. You can hear Steve's signature in there. Could have been a Chocolate Layers remix.

 

 



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Agreed, to the point where I was scouring my drive for "chocolate" for a while, before Ian put me straight ;)

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A friend of mine says the opening chords of GTHL reminds her of another song. I think i know what she means but can't put my finger on what it is.

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Street Spirit by Radiohead is what people are saying but an arpeggiated minor chord ain't exclusive. They've already sampled some 70s funk, let's let them off this one...

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Street Spirit by Radiohead is what people are saying but an arpeggiated minor chord ain't exclusive. They've already sampled some 70s funk, let's let them off this one...


 

Yeah this is two different things. A chord, an arpeggio or even an entire chord structure cant really be considered as plagiarism, or borrowing. It's a tool, like when a construction worked uses a hammer. Even a sample to make a cool rhythm or sound, to create new music. 

A melody is different though. That does not take away the quality of the song, but since we've lived with the demo for what 20 years now ? I always thought this was theirs 100%, wondering what it would sound like finished, why they didn't use it, questioning their choices, like the rest of WLL demos.

And obviously there is a bit of "WTF" or letdown moment here, but it will pass ! biggrin Sampling is fine, i really dont mind it. Just a bit surprised that they use this a single then. 



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Personally, the sound of the guitar in that intro is strongly evocative of WLL. I know that is probably an obvious point to make round here, but its like a partially-uncovered artefact within the glossy new recording that bespeaks its origins. Even setting aside its status as a demo from around that time, it wouldnt have sounded out of place in Wickerman had they added another section. I reckon!





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GTHL is now on the 6Music A-list playlist (Spike Island is now off the Radio 2 playlist), and Virgin Radio played it earlier today.

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Personally, the sound of the guitar in that intro is strongly evocative of WLL. I know that is probably an obvious point to make round here, but its like a partially-uncovered artefact within the glossy new recording that bespeaks its origins. Even setting aside its status as a demo from around that time, it wouldnt have sounded out of place in Wickerman had they added another section. I reckon!





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I agree. There was room for this, After You, Cuckoo and the Quiet revolution on We Love Life. 

I'd still want to to here Got to Have Love vocal version from 1999, it sounded a bit more disco and rough. the More version is very lush. 



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