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Well, that is the other side. It really pulls at your personal Different Class memories, the gateway for many of us. I remember borrowing a cassette of the album aged 14 and staring at the striking pictures within the DC booklet. Mesmerised by them almost as much as the adjoining lyrics and the music (yeah, I did read the words while listening, sue me Jarv). This morning when I saw JC's Insta post with a brief clip of the video I thought it was actual footage from the original photo sessions. Felt a bit silly that I'd been AI-duped.

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Eamonn wrote:

Well, that is the other side. It really pulls at your personal Different Class memories, the gateway for many of us. I remember borrowing a cassette of the album aged 14 and staring at the striking pictures within the DC booklet. Mesmerised by them almost as much as the adjoining lyrics and the music (yeah, I did read the words while listening, sue me Jarv). This morning when I saw JC's Insta post with a brief clip of the video I thought it was actual footage from the original photo sessions. Felt a bit silly that I'd been AI-duped.

I love that they've dusted off the cardboard cutouts for the actual cover art (and maybe they'll be in the inlay too?). If you weren't actually there first time, if you saw the images since and have come to appreciate them, then there's something about seeing them actually used again that validates how 'real' it is. I had a feeling they might return to the Different Class era cutouts what with it being 30 years since the album and that's definitely not the part of it I was displeased with.



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Oh , well, of course I wasn't thinking about people in this forum! Connection with the band of the people here doesn't need to be proved! I was referring to some people on social media saying "song is ok, bur they used AI on the vid, that sucks". 



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srhelvetica wrote:

Oh , well, of course I wasn't thinking about people in this forum! Connection with the band of the people here doesn't need to be proved! I was referring to some people on social media saying "song is ok, bur they used AI on the vid, that sucks". 



-- Edited by srhelvetica on Thursday 10th of April 2025 08:50:21 PM

 Oh, I'm so sorry, there really was no need for me to be so defensive. Sorry for jumping down your throat like that. Message duly redacted - crossed wires on my end.



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srhelvetica wrote:

Oh , well, of course I wasn't thinking about people in this forum! Connection with the band of the people here doesn't need to be proved! I was referring to some people on social media saying "song is ok, bur they used AI on the vid, that sucks". 



-- Edited by srhelvetica on Thursday 10th of April 2025 08:50:21 PM

I did see a lot of comments like that on Reddit. I think it's a shame about the video using something so controversial like AI because a lot of people are just talking about the AI usage instead of the song itself. I feel bad having been even slightly negative about it earlier, because I'm just so happy they're making music again and I want to be as supportive of that as I can.



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thishouseis wrote:
srhelvetica wrote:

Oh , well, of course I wasn't thinking about people in this forum! Connection with the band of the people here doesn't need to be proved! I was referring to some people on social media saying "song is ok, bur they used AI on the vid, that sucks". 



-- Edited by srhelvetica on Thursday 10th of April 2025 08:50:21 PM

I did see a lot of comments like that on Reddit. I think it's a shame about the video using something so controversial like AI because a lot of people are just talking about the AI usage instead of the song itself. I feel bad having been even slightly negative about it earlier, because I'm just so happy they're making music again and I want to be as supportive of that as I can.

 Yeah, me too. I was very negative about it. And it's such a fantastic song.



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Four stars from Alexis Petridis in the Grauniad: www.theguardian.com/music/2025/apr/10/pulp-spike-island-review-jarvis-cocker-and-cos-joyous-second-coming

"Perhaps Cocker is looking back on Pulps own supposed glory days with greater perspective: Spike Island references his discomfort with fame (I was conforming to a cosmic design, I was playing to type), and the indifference Pulps disbanding was greeted with in the early 00s, when a theoretically valedictory greatest hits album barely scraped the Top 75: The universe shrugged and moved on.

But Cocker seems emboldened at the prospect of his own second coming. He suggests that this time Ill get it right and that he has walked back to the garden of earthly delights. He sings happily: I was born to perform, its a calling / I exist to do this shouting and pointing. Students of rock history might recognise the last three words as the title of an ignored 1976 album by Mott, the dogged but doomed attempt by members of Mott the Hoople to soldier on without lead singer Ian Hunter. References to 1970s pop-culture arcana are, of course, very Pulp and so are a lot of other things about Spike Island: the disco-influenced rhythm (decorated with the distinctive sound of syndrums), the brief spoken-word section, and the sense that complicated emotions lurk behind its anthemic chorus.

For all the conflicted feelings at its centre, Spike Island is a noticeably stronger song than After You, the solitary new track spawned by Pulps previous reformation, in the early 2010s. Had Spike Island been released in their heyday or instead of the strikingly downbeat Help the Aged in 1997 it would doubtless have been a hit."

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Decent analysis and good Hoople spot.

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The song is brilliant. I've been listening to it on repeat all day now

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HoltbyCity wrote:

The song is brilliant. I've been listening to it on repeat all day now



Just came on to post the same - I haven't listened to a song on repeat like this since I was a youngster. It's fantastic, and I frigging LOVE how Cocker just describes his profession as "shouting and pointing", got a genuine laugh from me

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Yeah - it's simultaneously self-aware, modest, silly and boastful. Incredible really.

The Spotify credits has the writers as all of Pulp plus Buckle, Betts, McKinney and Smith. The latter three must pinch themselves. They're great musicians of course but being plucked by Pulp has made their careers a fair bit more lucrative and rewarding.

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I think this one would've slotted neatly onto We Love Life. It carries on in a very similar musical spirit, albeit with a sense of renewal. If Pulp had somehow regrouped after those taxing We Love Life years and put out an album around 2003-5, I think it might well have sounded a lot like this, Jason Buckle writing credit and all.



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new Stereolab video also copped flack for its use of AI to create the video.

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Listening to the song again, I've been reminded of a review of This Is Hardcore:


As is 'The Day After The Revolution', the final, mesmerising, ELO-sized soundscape where Jarvis tells us, finally, he's found The Answer: "Why did it seem so difficult to realise the simple truth", he's decided, "the revolution begins and ends with you". Then he stands back, hand at chin, and surveys the preceding chaos with one of those peerless, priceless talky-bit-speeches. "Yeah", he nods, "you made it / Just by the skin of your teeth... The future is over / Sheffield is over / The fear is over / Guilt is over / The breakdown is over / Irony is over / Bah-bye". And so the hardcore life is over, breaking up into a fuzzed-up technotronic bedlam befitting a band who could, at this point, be known as The Space-Pop Radiohead except soaring into space on a 15-minute note of religious ecstasy.

 

We got our own brand-new peerless, priceless, talky-bit speech. In 2025. It gives me goosebumps every single time! 



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Who the hell is Al

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I love the song and I love the artwork- the only disappointing thing about the video is that the band don't feature in it- I want to see them back at it and I want the world to see them back at it.. but I suppose I should just be grateful for what we got because at best I would have hoped for a new song, but instead, we got MORE!

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Technically, they do feature as cardboard cutouts. They might feature in person in the video for the next single (Got to Have Love?)

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Ian wrote:

Technically, they do feature as cardboard cutouts. They might feature in person in the video for the next single (Got to Have Love?)

True- you know what I mean though hopefully they will- Even if they featured in the background or something or like Martin Fry did with the Viva Love music video from ABC



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I know this is really weird but all of yesterday after watching the video for 'Spike Island' - I was thinking it reminds me of something... Then when I was on the train going home after work I was like ohhhh it reminds me of The Beatles 'Free as a Bird'. The looking back, friends not here, time capsule of DC. Silly thought.



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me on Spike island: ow ouch oww owie

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Weird thing about Jarvis is that his voice is not really aging. Most artists tend to have a different tone when they get older. But Jarvis still has his 30s tone. Amazing.

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Well, I'd say vid is being quite controversial, but at social media and musical press EVERYBODY is loving "Spike Island". This is a true comeback! And yeah, makes me happy everybody notices they are not that kind of band that comes back like a pale shadow of what they once were.



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I notice that there does seem to be a radio edit, which cuts the intro and instrumentals at the start of the second verse and bridge. Did think those parts might hinder its airplay so I guess it's fair enough.

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Eamonn wrote:

I notice that there does seem to be a radio edit, which cuts the intro and instrumentals at the start of the second verse and bridge. Did think those parts might hinder its airplay so I guess it's fair enough.

 Don't see why radio 6 would need to cut any intro, as it gives the presenters more time to talk. They talk and talk and talk over the intros and outros of songs. And blather on and on for long spells between songs. And read out dismal contributions from wealthy listeners at home making avocado soup, or some other trendy gunk. It's as bad as Rad 2 was years ago. Except worsened now, because of the tedious repetitive cross-platform promotion of TV shows. 

Some songs have lovely intros and outros and I want to hear them. Off topic, but recently enjoyed 2nd series of The Change (not very funny, but good all the same), only spoiled by continuity announcer talking over the credits, which is a shame because the closing music is the gorgeous 'Hares On The Mountain' sung by Shirley Collins - the new version. Now there's a voice that has aged to a very different tone (she turns 90 this year).



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