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Love it.

I had just started sixth form college (after high school) and in a weird way this fantastic, more mature Pulp sound with songs about birds, sunrises, rivers and weeds perfectly suited my sudden transition into what I foolishly believed to be a far more mature 16 year old.

Of course, I was still just a daft kid really.

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Love it.

I had just started sixth form college (after high school) and in a weird way this fantastic, more mature Pulp sound with songs about birds, sunrises, rivers and weeds perfectly suited my sudden transition into what I foolishly believed to be a far more mature 16 year old.

Of course, I was still just a daft kid really.

 

I'm super similar, I was in the last year of school and had pretty much given up ever being on time as I knew I'd fail everything anyway, and I wanted to take the long way to school walking along an abandoned railway track with my minidisc player. I got really into WLL at this time and 16 year old me definitely thought I was living in Wickerman. Just replace the abandoned Trebor factory with the active Jacob's factory and the smell of Jaffa Cakes.

This was about 2005 and at the time listening to Pulp still felt like something from an earlier generation, no different to listening to Led Zep or something like that. Different Class was a whole decade ago! When Jarvis reemerged for the solo album in 2006 it felt like a real "event". It had been 5 years! since the last Pulp album. An unimaginable amount of time. Now it's been 20+ years since I discovered Pulp through borrowing CDs en masse from the local library and getting my mate to rip them to minidisc.

And around 20 years or so since I discovered in a magazine that a DVD existed of the mysterious Pulp videos, so I blagged a National Express down to London and went to the HMV on Oxford Street - navigating entirely by the map of London I knew from a game called "The Getaway" on PS2 - to find a copy (and the Divine Comedy live DVD). They became the definition of "cool" that defined so much of my life.

I've since emigrated, and amazingly I got to see both Pulp (in a pretty intimate gig for 26!) and The Divine Comedy in Italy last year. Now this year, they both have new albums. And my usual bar is hosting a Pulp listening party on Thursday, even though the owner has never heard of them. It's a bit mad really. 



-- Edited by JohnPaul_II on Monday 2nd of June 2025 09:40:51 AM

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Love reading your memories of WLL. Lovely posts :)
I was thinking of that too. 24 years!
When I play WLL I can nearly smell and feel autumn! I always get that feeling of the seasons changing and the leaves falling and the dew on the grass, the clocks changing and night drawing in whenever I play it because it came out in October.

By the way, when do ye all sleep, ye were back online here very early

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I can still remember listening to the Birds in your Garden early morning when the sun was rising, going to university. It really made the commute less painful.

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think I might even get out the Sony discman. That thing has been through it all and still works a treat.

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Sony discman is right! The third Friday of October in 2001. After school I went into the local record store in anticipation of the following Monday when WLL would be released. The owner, who was used to me popping-in for my weekly purchases of new albums, largely governed by whatever was getting eight out of ten in NME or four stars in Q, tells me that the new Pulp one was in already. Couldn't believe it. Did my evening shift at the supermarket (had to start it - and finish it) and finally that night I went to bed, had a detailed and careful perusal of the album booklet, turned off the lights, earphones in and the CD embossed with floral/weed-print went into the silver Sony discman. And I prayed that the song I was most looking forward to, Birds In Your Garden, would sound as good as the reviews had hinted at.

Before track seven though, listening to the album in full of course, I remember Wickerman making me feel like I was in the middle of a film. That whole section from "I went there for old time's sake..." I would later lift almost verbatim for my English Leaving Cert (A Level) exam. When Birds came on and the first chorus soared, I could have wept with joy, I couldn't believe how beautiful it was. I might have overreacted but I was two weeks away from seventeen, I didn't know a thing at all.

I can't remember much else about that debut listen but suffice to say, when I saw Pulp for the first time - my first proper gig at all, six weeks later, I pretty much knew the album note for note.

 



-- Edited by Eamonn on Tuesday 3rd of June 2025 09:17:48 AM

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www.theguardian.com/music/2025/jun/02/pulp-more-review-anthems-and-rage-for-the-next-life-stage

Guardian review is out, 4/5 again

 

While I'm being embarrassingly nostalgic, writing that last post made me. remember my wilderness days on the dole when a couple of times a week, i'd cycle down that same abandoned railway and follow another path alongside the airport and through the nearby village to Fiddler's Ferry, where I'd nurse a pint for a couple of hours with a book (definitely Sturdy's at one point) then go back behind old power station to relax and continue my book on a bit of wasteland next to the river that I knew was infamous for a gig that happened there, which I used to daydream about. It was always completely dead apart from a couple of geese. 

That was Spike Island. I popped back a couple of years ago and it has "come alive", but only because they built an enormous road bridge over the top of it.



-- Edited by JohnPaul_II on Monday 2nd of June 2025 02:28:23 PM

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The album has leaked, unsurprisingly. Seems for the course with any big release these days.

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you mean hasitleaked is ****ty site?

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Be warned, the leak I found has a couple of volume leaps / drops on the first and last tracks. Might not be the digital version you want to stick with long-term

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Yeah...feck that, I'm waiting til midnight Friday, headphones on in the dark just like with We Love Life all those years ago...



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Eamonn wrote:

Sony discman is right! The third Friday of October in 2021. After school I went into the local record store in anticipation of the following Monday when WLL would be released. The owner, who was used to me popping-in for my weekly purchases of new albums, largely governed by whatever was getting eight out of ten in NME or four stars in Q, tells me that the new Pulp one was in already. Couldn't believe it. Did my evening shift at the supermarket (had to start it - and finish it) and finally that night I went to bed, had a detailed and careful perusal of the album booklet, turned off the lights, earphones in and the CD embossed with floral/weed-print went into the silver Sony discman. And I prayed that the song I was most looking forward to, Birds In Your Garden, would sound as good as the reviews had hinted at.

Before track seven though, listening to the album in full of course, I remember Wickerman making me feel like I was in the middle of a film. That whole section from "I went there for old time's sake..." I would later lift almost verbatim for my English Leaving Cert (A Level) exam. When Birds came on and the first chorus soared, I could have wept with joy, I couldn't believe how beautiful it was. I might have overreacted but I was two weeks away from seventeen, I didn't know a thing at all.

I can't remember much else about that debut listen but suffice to say, when I saw Pulp for the first time - my first proper gig at all, six weeks later, I pretty much knew the album note for note.



-- Edited by Eamonn on Monday 2nd of June 2025 12:27:03 PM

What a lovely tale to share. So glad you're getting this moment again after all these years. 

I'm going to be going down to HMV on Friday. Not interested in leaks.



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Pip wrote:

The album has leaked, unsurprisingly. Seems for the course with any big release these days.

 

"Where" exactly biggrin



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lipglossed wrote:
Eamonn wrote:

Sony discman is right! The third Friday of October in 2021. After school I went into the local record store in anticipation of the following Monday when WLL would be released. The owner, who was used to me popping-in for my weekly purchases of new albums, largely governed by whatever was getting eight out of ten in NME or four stars in Q, tells me that the new Pulp one was in already. Couldn't believe it. Did my evening shift at the supermarket (had to start it - and finish it) and finally that...

-- Edited by Eamonn on Monday 2nd of June 2025 12:27:03 PM

What a lovely tale to share. So glad you're getting this moment again after all these years. 

I'm going to be going down to HMV on Friday. Not interested in leaks.

 Ta, I meant 2001 of course, not 2021!



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I don't actually remember the first time I heard WLL in full. I mainly remember it being leaked a few weeks beforehand, and getting hold of most if not all the tracks via this forum, with lots of excited discussion as they emerged. Roadkill was the one that stood out for me - I guess as it hadn't been done live, so it was one of the few surprises. But by the time I actually went out and bought the vinyl (from HMV in Coventry... ah, those were the days) the impact had been diluted a bit!

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It was a weird record for me. Obviously a few weeks after sept 11, the world was in a really weird place. And that record was gonna have to compete against DC and most TIH which is probably in the Top 5 of my fav records of all time. So i was a bit disappointed, honestly. It's still a great record, but it does not touch the earlier ones, or even Jarvis solo record for me. It's a bit behind.

It's also the first wave of record without amazing bsides, when bands slowly put throwaway on the flipside because singles were not selling as much as before.

All in all, the party was kinda over really. and i guess the record reflects that, much more than TIH, which was a very ambitious record and still had the energy of the 90s.

We Love Life title also, it's wishful thinking, but it was difficult.



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andy wrote:
Pip wrote:

The album has leaked, unsurprisingly. Seems for the course with any big release these days.

 

"Where" exactly biggrin

 Anyone ? biggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrin



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I appreciate the interest but I think it's probably best not to post details here, out of respect for the band/record label.

Plus, rule one of the forum:

"First off, ABSOLUTELY no discussion about the copying and sharing of commercially-available material."

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Well, quite. What's another 24 hours (x 2.5) of waiting after 24 years?

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Oof, get a load of this in Camden Town! Weren't Sheff meant to have the first ones?
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Apt, that Camden has a poster - is it the most name-checked place in Jarvis/Pulp songs? And can anyone remember did We Love Life get billboards?



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Of course it will make want us hear it, its been 24 years ! Those 3 days feel longer than the last 24 years. 

Nevermind I found it.

Of course i bought it and the even the japanese version. Pretty sure 100% of us are supportive of the band in that regard. 



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Fine, listen if you must, it's still illegal so no spoilers, yeah?

It must be a bitch to have those posters designed so that the title and artist have the big letters hanging off the top. Rough Trade's marketing budget is big for Project Pulp!

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Trying to remember the actual release of WLL / buying it / playing it for the first time but nope, scene missing. Remember going to the gigs around it. 2001 was the year I crashed out of uni, burnt out on drugs, doing a series of jobs that involved manual labour and (the only positive) putting together my first film. Kind of a low point for my life really. Happily in much better place now, 2001 really seems like a different world.

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From what I've heard so far (singles) and the BBC Radio 2 session I've been very impressed.

The new songs seem to naturally sit well and hold their own against the band's older classics. Tina sounded brilliant on the R2 session, if not a bit more 'Jarvis' than 'Pulp'. Farmers Market and A Sunset both sounded lovely on first listen.

A few further Four Star reviews have dropped, and a Three Star (harsh!). But they are averaging out nicely at four stars.

Stereogum:
www.stereogum.com/2309761/premature-evaluation-pulp-more/reviews/premature-evaluation/

Brooklyn Vegan: www.brooklynvegan.com/pulp-more-album-review-jarvis-****er-co-return-in-style-older-wiser-still-horny/

Slant (hard to please it seems!): www.slantmagazine.com/music/pulp-more-album-review/



-- Edited by Barcroft on Tuesday 3rd of June 2025 03:20:04 PM

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