Not me ! not really into the listening parties. It's kinda weird. Like a gig where you dont know the songs.
My first listens of every album is almost alone, on the couch, headphones on. Dont wanna be disturbed by someone shooting "this does not sound like common people" or whatever
So wtf do you do at a listening party? Do people sit around and listen or what? Is it just on in the shop while you browse around? I'm the same really, Andy. Prefer to have my cup of tea and a biccie and sit listening in peace without other people around. I'll likely go just for Pulp though but wondering what to expect.
Must have a listen to that, Eamonn, this evening. Thanks for letting me know. Didn't buy Hotpress yet
-- Edited by Jean on Monday 19th of May 2025 05:00:04 PM
I'm not sure I could think of anything worse than trying to come to terms with some important new music, in a room full of strangers. Give me 4 complete play throughs by myself (twice on vinyl, once in the car and once on MP3 player walking about), then I might talk to someone about it. Blimey, I won't even talk about a film I've seen at the cinema with anyone till the following day.
Newcastle one is in Reflex. The shop is tiny, hard even to shop in, shuffling past people all the time, waiting patiently (grumpily patiently) to get to where you want to get to. Not a comfortable place to absorb an album over 40-50mins. Agree with some others: alone, headphones, sofa. Went to a listening party years ago, Suede Head Music, but it was in an intimate dark club, quite nice, and snagged a huge promo item.
That being said, I want those badges and that pen. Haven't had one of those multi-pens in years, was just fancying one a few weeks ago. Wonder what the orange rectangle is? Grim that there's ANOTHER exclusive vinyl to track down.
And clicked on the podcast down near the bottom of that page.
There's not one dud on that album. I won't hear tell of anyone suggesting Monday Morning is a weak link of any kind!
Hmm...you guys/gals are making me reconsider trying to attend one of these. I rang a couple of the participating London shops today to see if any of them were doing this at a reasonable time (ie not 3pm on a workday) and did get the impression that it might just be the album played on the shop's sound system but not much in the way of bells and whistles, or even chairs to sit down in... so yeah, it might be difficult to pay proper attention to the musical talent and lyrical expertise on this long-awaited album.
Listening parties is another marketing thing, isn't it. I mean, it's cool if you want to meet people with the same taste, but not for a new album.
Especially one you've been waiting for, for 25 years. Anyway, i'm sure some people like that and i dont judge, it's just not my thing. Ive done lots of Gig meetup and that was fun though, but then you already know the songs. I mean, i dont know, music is sacred for me, and those first listens are priceless. It's a guilty pleasure.
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-- Edited by andy on Tuesday 20th of May 2025 06:25:48 AM
There's one in Napoli? Amazing. I'd never have expected it. The place they're holding it - Fonoteca - is a sort of combined record store/bar/gallery. So I guess we'll just grab a table and a few beers and hear it for the first time together.
It's only a day before the official release though, and a week after it's played in the Rough Trade shops in the UK. So I'm sure it'll have leaked by then. But will I be able to resist listening to it?
Not sure what happens at a listening party nowadays but I assume that they would either play a physical copy or some sort of stream, perhaps each store has a login to access this. An employee could easily rip a physical copy and I'm sure that there are ways of ripping or recording a live stream. Therefore, a leak is certainly possible.
I'm going to Action Records in Preston for their listening party. The owner Gordon has owned the shop and company for like over 40 years, maybe more - it's a small shop so it'll be a great atmosphere. Another variant of the bloody record though.....
I find it a hard listen having bad the song for nearly 26 years albeit in a rough demo. However to hear how it has been. developed, and with lyrics.... It's like a new song all over again. What a ****ing fantastic song. It's up there. I'm telling you.
Definite radio edit, it was only three and a half minutes long.
Version on Spotify/Album version is almost 5 minutes.
It's always been a winning chorus even when all we had for years was the instrumental demo with the BVs.
Production is strong, good vocals and lyrics. Just not convinced by the spoken-word part on the edit as it leaves out the more impressive part. What remains is a ...little bit cringe? And a wise man, well weej, once said that you can get away with spelling out a word/song title once in your career but here we are with another feeling called LOVE.
Pretty good overall. Still waiting for a killer middle-eight.
"listening parties will be taking place on the same day, 29 May, and to mark the occasion anyone present will be able to pre-order a special edition of More proudly displaying the name of the shop where you bought it."
I guess that implies it's exclusive to that day? Maybe not, maybe just another independent record stores exclusive edition. I don't know how much More I can take, but I know I'll end up buying another one. And then in 2050, if I'm still alive, a suite of deluxe re-issues. As the unluckiest nut in the hemisphere, I have no chance of snagging a lucky bag.
It just sucks being an Aussie fan. On the listening parties page they had listed Australia and I thought maybe Redeye in Sydney or Rockinghorse in Brisbane or one of our many splendid record shops would have a party but now no mention. It can be really deflating being a Pulp fan being so far away....
-- Edited by cutcopy on Tuesday 27th of May 2025 06:59:33 AM
Ha, hopefully. Simz is very popular. And actually looking at the album charts, heavy-hitters that have been at number one months after release (Sabrina Carpenter, Ed Sheeran) could still go back to number one again...
There's been hints in a review that the liner notes contain thoughts from Jarvis on the songs. Unusual to do that on the original release but I look forward to reading them, if so.
I just realized Farmer's market first lyric line is the answer to the first lyric line of Scott Walker's On your own again
Yeah, I'm bit slow but : do not read the lyrics...
He seems quite motivated by the loss of Steve to stop putting things off for tomorrow.
Now the new line-up are in the groove as a unit, have confidence in their songwriting and have put the recording monkey to bed, hopefully there will be more writing after this tour.
Ive been thinking like that as well. 24 years ago. When I picked up WLL in 2001 I got it about 3 weeks after it was released on the day of my final Year 12 HSC exams. I could not have cared less about the exams, I was more concerned about getting to Target and hopefully they might just have a copy. In 24 years I've changed careers twice, undergrads and postgrads, moved cities, long term relationship ie basically married, bought a house + other fully fledged adulting stuff like grief, getting into gardening, Steely Dan, elections, offset accounts and whether the interest rate is gonna come down -- but on Friday I get to be 17-18 again and not the middle aged grumpy lady that I now am (thanks perimenopause - to much info). Got the day off work and heading straight to Rockinghorse. And the one thread in all that life is this silly band from sheffield.
-- Edited by cutcopy on Monday 2nd of June 2025 10:49:38 AM
I had just started sixth form college (after high school) and in a weird way this fantastic, more mature Pulp sound with songs about birds, sunrises, rivers and weeds perfectly suited my sudden transition into what I foolishly believed to be a far more mature 16 year old.
I had just started sixth form college (after high school) and in a weird way this fantastic, more mature Pulp sound with songs about birds, sunrises, rivers and weeds perfectly suited my sudden transition into what I foolishly believed to be a far more mature 16 year old.
Of course, I was still just a daft kid really.
I'm super similar, I was in the last year of school and had pretty much given up ever being on time as I knew I'd fail everything anyway, and I wanted to take the long way to school walking along an abandoned railway track with my minidisc player. I got really into WLL at this time and 16 year old me definitely thought I was living in Wickerman. Just replace the abandoned Trebor factory with the active Jacob's factory and the smell of Jaffa Cakes.
This was about 2005 and at the time listening to Pulp still felt like something from an earlier generation, no different to listening to Led Zep or something like that. Different Class was a whole decade ago! When Jarvis reemerged for the solo album in 2006 it felt like a real "event". It had been 5 years! since the last Pulp album. An unimaginable amount of time. Now it's been 20+ years since I discovered Pulp through borrowing CDs en masse from the local library and getting my mate to rip them to minidisc.
And around 20 years or so since I discovered in a magazine that a DVD existed of the mysterious Pulp videos, so I blagged a National Express down to London and went to the HMV on Oxford Street - navigating entirely by the map of London I knew from a game called "The Getaway" on PS2 - to find a copy (and the Divine Comedy live DVD). They became the definition of "cool" that defined so much of my life.
I've since emigrated, and amazingly I got to see both Pulp (in a pretty intimate gig for 26!) and The Divine Comedy in Italy last year. Now this year, they both have new albums. And my usual bar is hosting a Pulp listening party on Thursday, even though the owner has never heard of them. It's a bit mad really.
-- Edited by JohnPaul_II on Monday 2nd of June 2025 09:40:51 AM
Love reading your memories of WLL. Lovely posts :)
I was thinking of that too. 24 years!
When I play WLL I can nearly smell and feel autumn! I always get that feeling of the seasons changing and the leaves falling and the dew on the grass, the clocks changing and night drawing in whenever I play it because it came out in October.
By the way, when do ye all sleep, ye were back online here very early
I can still remember listening to the Birds in your Garden early morning when the sun was rising, going to university. It really made the commute less painful.
Sony discman is right! The third Friday of October in 2001. After school I went into the local record store in anticipation of the following Monday when WLL would be released. The owner, who was used to me popping-in for my weekly purchases of new albums, largely governed by whatever was getting eight out of ten in NME or four stars in Q, tells me that the new Pulp one was in already. Couldn't believe it. Did my evening shift at the supermarket (had to start it - and finish it) and finally that night I went to bed, had a detailed and careful perusal of the album booklet, turned off the lights, earphones in and the CD embossed with floral/weed-print went into the silver Sony discman. And I prayed that the song I was most looking forward to, Birds In Your Garden, would sound as good as the reviews had hinted at.
Before track seven though, listening to the album in full of course, I remember Wickerman making me feel like I was in the middle of a film. That whole section from "I went there for old time's sake..." I would later lift almost verbatim for my English Leaving Cert (A Level) exam. When Birds came on and the first chorus soared, I could have wept with joy, I couldn't believe how beautiful it was. I might have overreacted but I was two weeks away from seventeen, I didn't know a thing at all.
I can't remember much else about that debut listen but suffice to say, when I saw Pulp for the first time - my first proper gig at all, six weeks later, I pretty much knew the album note for note.
-- Edited by Eamonn on Tuesday 3rd of June 2025 09:17:48 AM
While I'm being embarrassingly nostalgic, writing that last post made me. remember my wilderness days on the dole when a couple of times a week, i'd cycle down that same abandoned railway and follow another path alongside the airport and through the nearby village to Fiddler's Ferry, where I'd nurse a pint for a couple of hours with a book (definitely Sturdy's at one point) then go back behind old power station to relax and continue my book on a bit of wasteland next to the river that I knew was infamous for a gig that happened there, which I used to daydream about. It was always completely dead apart from a couple of geese.
That was Spike Island. I popped back a couple of years ago and it has "come alive", but only because they built an enormous road bridge over the top of it.
-- Edited by JohnPaul_II on Monday 2nd of June 2025 02:28:23 PM
Be warned, the leak I found has a couple of volume leaps / drops on the first and last tracks. Might not be the digital version you want to stick with long-term
Sony discman is right! The third Friday of October in 2021. After school I went into the local record store in anticipation of the following Monday when WLL would be released. The owner, who was used to me popping-in for my weekly purchases of new albums, largely governed by whatever was getting eight out of ten in NME or four stars in Q, tells me that the new Pulp one was in already. Couldn't believe it. Did my evening shift at the supermarket (had to start it - and finish it) and finally that night I went to bed, had a detailed and careful perusal of the album booklet, turned off the lights, earphones in and the CD embossed with floral/weed-print went into the silver Sony discman. And I prayed that the song I was most looking forward to, Birds In Your Garden, would sound as good as the reviews had hinted at.
Before track seven though, listening to the album in full of course, I remember Wickerman making me feel like I was in the middle of a film. That whole section from "I went there for old time's sake..." I would later lift almost verbatim for my English Leaving Cert (A Level) exam. When Birds came on and the first chorus soared, I could have wept with joy, I couldn't believe how beautiful it was. I might have overreacted but I was two weeks away from seventeen, I didn't know a thing at all.
I can't remember much else about that debut listen but suffice to say, when I saw Pulp for the first time - my first proper gig at all, six weeks later, I pretty much knew the album note for note.
-- Edited by Eamonn on Monday 2nd of June 2025 12:27:03 PM
What a lovely tale to share. So glad you're getting this moment again after all these years.
I'm going to be going down to HMV on Friday. Not interested in leaks.
Sony discman is right! The third Friday of October in 2021. After school I went into the local record store in anticipation of the following Monday when WLL would be released. The owner, who was used to me popping-in for my weekly purchases of new albums, largely governed by whatever was getting eight out of ten in NME or four stars in Q, tells me that the new Pulp one was in already. Couldn't believe it. Did my evening shift at the supermarket (had to start it - and finish it) and finally that...
-- Edited by Eamonn on Monday 2nd of June 2025 12:27:03 PM
What a lovely tale to share. So glad you're getting this moment again after all these years.
I'm going to be going down to HMV on Friday. Not interested in leaks.
I don't actually remember the first time I heard WLL in full. I mainly remember it being leaked a few weeks beforehand, and getting hold of most if not all the tracks via this forum, with lots of excited discussion as they emerged. Roadkill was the one that stood out for me - I guess as it hadn't been done live, so it was one of the few surprises. But by the time I actually went out and bought the vinyl (from HMV in Coventry... ah, those were the days) the impact had been diluted a bit!
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It was a weird record for me. Obviously a few weeks after sept 11, the world was in a really weird place. And that record was gonna have to compete against DC and most TIH which is probably in the Top 5 of my fav records of all time. So i was a bit disappointed, honestly. It's still a great record, but it does not touch the earlier ones, or even Jarvis solo record for me. It's a bit behind.
It's also the first wave of record without amazing bsides, when bands slowly put throwaway on the flipside because singles were not selling as much as before.
All in all, the party was kinda over really. and i guess the record reflects that, much more than TIH, which was a very ambitious record and still had the energy of the 90s.
We Love Life title also, it's wishful thinking, but it was difficult.
-- Edited by andy on Tuesday 3rd of June 2025 12:35:17 PM
Fine, listen if you must, it's still illegal so no spoilers, yeah?
It must be a bitch to have those posters designed so that the title and artist have the big letters hanging off the top. Rough Trade's marketing budget is big for Project Pulp!
Trying to remember the actual release of WLL / buying it / playing it for the first time but nope, scene missing. Remember going to the gigs around it. 2001 was the year I crashed out of uni, burnt out on drugs, doing a series of jobs that involved manual labour and (the only positive) putting together my first film. Kind of a low point for my life really. Happily in much better place now, 2001 really seems like a different world.
From what I've heard so far (singles) and the BBC Radio 2 session I've been very impressed.
The new songs seem to naturally sit well and hold their own against the band's older classics. Tina sounded brilliant on the R2 session, if not a bit more 'Jarvis' than 'Pulp'. Farmers Market and A Sunset both sounded lovely on first listen.
A few further Four Star reviews have dropped, and a Three Star (harsh!). But they are averaging out nicely at four stars.
I found it very easily on Soulseek but cant motivate myself to listen to more than a couple of seconds of each track. The listening party here is on Thursday, why spoil the moment now?
Thanks, I have downloaded it as I really wanted to get my hands on "Partial Eclipse" but after looking at the waveforms, I decided against pressing play.
Sure, my first listen will be via streaming on my way to work on Friday morning but even that's a massive improvement over what I have just looked at.
Thanks, I have downloaded it as I really wanted to get my hands on "Partial Eclipse" but after looking at the waveforms, I decided against pressing play.
Sure, my first listen will be via streaming on my way to work on Friday morning but even that's a massive improvement over what I have just looked at.
Yeah its really sounding weird I have 2 versions one is really bad the other is ok on headphones but not on speakers. Better Walt
Can we start a new thread for discussion of the album/people's personal opinions and descriptions of songs? As this thread has been going for weeks so it seems dumb to tag it with spoilers at this stage.
Just got the dispatch notification from the record store in Sheffield I used to buy the album. Seems it was posted today - it'll be a while before.I get it here in Italy of course, but I guess it's likely that some people will be getting copies delivered tomorrow?
I'm visiting home, and weirdly am in the very same room I was in when WLL leaked - reading of it on this forum and I became just too excited. I can still even remember the little pop-up pale blue HTML page with the track listing, and stopped up until 3am downloading over a slow modem; Wickerman took a long, long time. The temptation is very strong, and given where I am it'd be almost poetic, but I think I can hold off, I'd like to listen on Friday night with a nice bottle of wine (Grown Up, now)
-- Edited by Ste on Tuesday 3rd of June 2025 10:30:38 PM
Just got the dispatch notification from the record store in Sheffield I used to buy the album. Seems it was posted today - it'll be a while before.I get it here in Italy of course, but I guess it's likely that some people will be getting copies delivered tomorrow?
Me too, says posted today from Sheffield, so I expect it'll arrive on Thursday. I'm out all day Thursday, and won't get back until after midnight (King Creosote concert), so I might be More'ing until dawn.
Loved the stories in this thread. Can't remember 1st listen of WLL, but I remember taking my sony discman into work the day TIH came out, so I could buy it at Our Price and listen on my lunch break. Took an unauthorised long lunch break that day, and got sacked a few weeks later because I skived off for a gig, and gave a very feeble excuse - getting sacked always felt like an achievement for me... I have not thrived in life.
I've had a lot going on in my life lately and to have the consistent love of Pulp and to go into this album this week, something I've dreamed of for so long it all still feels just a bit weird like it's not really happening.
I've had a lot going on in my life lately and to have the consistent love of Pulp and to go into this album this week, something I've dreamed of for so long it all still feels just a bit weird like it's not really happening.
Whatever's been going on, I hope the universe is sorting it all out for you, lipglossed. New Pulp is a lovely distraction to have.
I've had a lot going on in my life lately and to have the consistent love of Pulp and to go into this album this week, something I've dreamed of for so long it all still feels just a bit weird like it's not really happening.
I hope everyone has such a good release day tomorrow. Its just bonkers that 'More' is finally in reach. My semi consolation (maybe) because the sun rises a bit quicker my side of the world is that when the clock goes midnight I am hoping that I'll be able to at least have access to the mp3s that come with some of the bounty goods I ordered from their website. Can only hope - or maybe its set to UK time. I have 3 x Pulp tshirts. Not sure which one to wear. I got one of the Pulp tshirts as part of the bundle for the Paul Burgess Hardcore book. Its been in plastic and never worn. I feel that this is as good a time as ever.
Congratulations everyone. A strange thing to say but I feel like we've all kept the faith - kept the lights on whether its here or PulpWiki / Acrylic Afternoons ( I have been visiting that website since 1999!!) / blogs / reddit / personal collections etc etc. With all the incredible reviews / gigs / books in the last 2-3 years and people banging on about how special this band is I feel a tiny bit vindicated. Not in a snobby way - just like yeah they are pretty bloody amazing.
Oh and you know its real when you can add 'More' to your Discogs collection.
-- Edited by cutcopy on Thursday 5th of June 2025 12:30:04 AM
What a great way of putting it. You're right, on many days since the split in 2002 when no one, not even the band themselves, seemed to care much about Pulp, we very much "kept the lights on"!
Bar Italia got a credit in the 2006 deluxe editions and Pulpwiki in both Jarvis' lyrics book and Mark's visual history (Acrylic Afts also thanked in the latter). I think a little bit of More should be for us too!
I'll get my More the day after tomorrow, Saturday will be my Pulp day.
They're gonna sell a lot, I think they did already but on D-day or this weekend, their bankers are gonna blush
Anyone else missing a download code with their records ?
Received my White Label, and Isha Dot version, both are polar opposites - really impressed by the Dot version, just a shame no download code. The White Label is a bit boring - but that's cos it's a white label haha. However - my vinyl has 100% been played, there's scuffs on it and finger prints ?