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I finally don't hate slow jam, hooray

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Just in time to surrender to it at Tramlines.

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Weener, youre one step closer to loving it forever! Im jealous because thats a thrilling climb but you can only make it the once.

Enjoyed it live (first night in London) but such a full and studioey recording is obviously going to lose something in performance (or better put, translate into something different). Theyd need to wheel-on a second band for the Holy Trinity part to carry the same clout. If Im carrying something Im usually careful to put it down when he starts singing about Jesus being the resurrection man, especially if its valuable, because the recorded version kinda incapacitates me. Jarvis was very committed in his singing and posturing at the gif though - it was still special.

(Related note: I was interested reading just how many tracks they used when recording Common People - 49 or something - and they still needed to bounce down. Quite a step up. No wonder my hammering C, G and F on a tinny piano never quite hits the spot. Heard an interview with Butch Vig about how he tricked Kurt to keep repeating his parts for SLTSpirit. Studio trickery wasnt terribly punk, so he kept saying thered been a technical problem or glitch - eventually he had ten or more guitar parts to stack)

Itd help if 10-15% of the crowd didnt see it as an opportunity to nip to the bar, but the material was still very, very new back then





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I didn't understand half of that!

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Sorry

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No I'm sorry, I re-read and it's all a.o.k !

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Ah I'm never going to love it (damn that slap note) but lyrically I do. It WAS going to be the 'go and get a pint' part tbh but I'm probably not going to drink today/tonight* as I'm on a stricter budget these days. 

*but the bar at the station will be calling to me saying 'christina christina why are you not coming to say hello to me today' as well as the rutland arms and fagans

Where do people go now after gigs now the leadmill is no longer.



-- Edited by weener on Friday 25th of July 2025 09:36:59 AM



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Slap bass and tone changes (for another chorus repeat) are probably the two worst things you can do in a song biggrin



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Just had a "But! Wait ! " moment : The Divine Comedy released a Tina-like song on Fin de Siecle called Commuter Love. It's pretty much the same idea, the author imagining his life with a girl he could never talk to.

Funny.

They should tour together. What a night that would be.

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I think comparisons between "Tina" and "Commuter Love" were made at the time it was released.

Yes, a joint tour would be amazing. There is enough crossover between Pulp and Divine Comedy fans to make it viable.

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Saw Neil and band earlier this week. Really good show. Couldn't see Jarvis performing with a "similar" dude.

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Saw Neil and band earlier this week. Really good show. Couldn't see Jarvis performing with a "similar" dude.


 

I dont think they are similar, more like two side of a coin. The shy dandy and the outcast. There's room for a double bill or a mini festival. With Chilly Gonzalez as opener biggrin



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Just don't see Pulp choosing a band they are often compared to with a large crossover in fans, as a support act. Call it ego, variety...Neil may consider himself of high enough stature not to need it either. I assume Suede fit in the middle in this scenario...never gonna happen.

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I wonder if Neil Hannon was inspired by Hymn of the North for his song Invisible Thread, a song to their kids

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Eamonn wrote:

Just don't see Pulp choosing a band they are often compared to with a large crossover in fans, as a support act. Call it ego, variety...Neil may consider himself of high enough stature not to need it either. I assume Suede fit in the middle in this scenario...never gonna happen.


Divine Comedy, suede and pulp on the same bill!  If only. Would have saved me going to four separate gigs in recent months.  That written, this summer I did see Manic Street Preachers, Charlatans and Ash on the same bill, so maybe another trio of 90s acts is possible, though this year has felt like a re-run of the 1990s. Going to sign off on 1990s tomorrow with EMF/Jesus Jones.  Then its back to the seventies with Boomtown Rats, Stranglers, Buzzc0cks, Damned, Bruce Foxton (Jam), Chris Difford (Squeeze) and DAM (Bowie in Berlin) all coming up.  



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I wonder if Neil Hannon was inspired by Hymn of the North for his song Invisible Thread, a song to their kids


 

I doubt it, as it's a sequel to Charmed Life and was probably written a few good years back, before we even heard Hymn of the North. I guess as a parent, that moment when the little one leaves the nest is a very emotional one.

 

As doe the double bill, 2025 proved us nothing is impossible in music ! New Pulp album, Oasis reuniting... etc. It wont happen, but it CAN happen smile



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As doe the double bill, 2025 proved us nothing is impossible in music ! New Pulp album, Oasis reuniting... etc. It wont happen, but it CAN happen smile

 It was like the mid 1990 re-lived seeing pulp, suede, Supergrass, Ash, Divine Comedy, Rialto, and Bluetones live among others. Didn't bother with Oasis, but sadly no Radiohead tickets.  And Super Furry Animals are back next year. Only blur missing from the party, though Graham Coxon did join Ash on stage recently.

I guess as long as one of the band members are alive, anything is possible.  Though some bands don't even worry about that!



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andy wrote:
As doe the double bill, 2025 proved us nothing is impossible in music ! New Pulp album, Oasis reuniting... etc. It wont happen, but it CAN happen smile

 It was like the mid 1990 re-lived seeing pulp, suede, Supergrass, Ash, Divine Comedy, Rialto, and Bluetones live among others. Didn't bother with Oasis, but sadly no Radiohead tickets.  And Super Furry Animals are back next year. Only blur missing from the party, though Graham Coxon did join Ash on stage recently.

I guess as long as one of the band members are alive, anything is possible.  Though some bands don't even worry about that!


 

Longpigs are the big big miss from the current scene and reunions.  I'd give anything to be able to see them live (albeit they are only 3/4s alive now sadly since Dee's passing)



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ArrGee wrote:
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As doe the double bill, 2025 proved us nothing is impossible in music ! New Pulp album, Oasis reuniting... etc. It wont happen, but it CAN happen smile

 It was like the mid 1990 re-lived seeing pulp, suede, Supergrass, Ash, Divine Comedy, Rialto, and Bluetones live among others. Didn't bother with Oasis, but sadly no Radiohead tickets.  And Super Furry Animals are back next year. Only blur missing from the party, though Graham Coxon did join Ash on stage recently.

I guess as long as one of the band members are alive, anything is possible.  Though some bands don't even worry about that!


 You should go see Blur at least once, it"s always a great gig. :) 

2025 is such a weird year for music. There's a band i love since the 90's, Ivy. Their McCartney (or Jarvis) was Adam Schlesinger, writer, producer... main man. he died from Covid in 2020. never thought they would reunite. 

But they did... they dug old demos written with him, reworked them and guess what, it's one of their best album.

Anything is possible in music, even the impossible. 

 



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Already saw Suede and Pulp gigs and wish I have chances to see Blur or The Divine Comedy gigs, of course, more Pulp for sure!! Paul McCarney will have a gig in the city I live in November, but the price is too high, like CAD$770 and up
Next year, I plan go to Asia, do not know if they want to go to Asia.

By the way, does anyone have any ideas about the show in The Golden Hinde, London in December? I didnt see any information on bands website or PulpWiki.

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It's a Nick Banks book-talk on a boat, apparently!

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Unless its a major case of Deja vu I seem to remember hearing something about someone selling tickets to watch a sunset long before I heard the song A Sunset. I dont know if it was a con or art or they openly said it would be a sunset or just sold tickets to the greatest show on earth but it definitely seemed familiar before I heard the song.

Maybe it was something I read online or heard on QI, or maybe its actually from a short story.

I tried googling but to no avail. Anyone know the background to the song?

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andy wrote:
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As doe the double bill, 2025 proved us nothing is impossible in music ! New Pulp album, Oasis reuniting... etc. It wont happen, but it CAN happen smile

 It was like the mid 1990 re-lived seeing pulp, suede, Supergrass, Ash, Divine Comedy, Rialto, and Bluetones live among others. Didn't bother with Oasis, but sadly no Radiohead tickets.  And Super Furry Animals are back next year. Only blur missing from the party, though Graham Coxon did join Ash on stage recently.

I guess as long as one of the band members are alive, anything is possible.  Though some bands don't even worry about that!


 You should go see Blur at least once, it"s always a great gig. :) 

2025 is such a weird year for music. There's a band i love since the 90's, Ivy. Their McCartney (or Jarvis) was Adam Schlesinger, writer, producer... main man. he died from Covid in 2020. never thought they would reunite. 

But they did... they dug old demos written with him, reworked them and guess what, it's one of their best album.

Anything is possible in music, even the impossible. 


I saw blur a couple of times back in 1990s.  Ditto Oasis.  Agree, blur were very good at Mile End and Brixton.  Oasis great at Earls Court, but not so good at Finsbury Park.  I wouldnt mind seeing either again, but I am not going to the likes of Wembley nor Hyde Park to do so.  I have only been to one gig at new Wembley Stadium (The Who) and only because I got a bargain ticket in the front of upper tier and it was fortunate I could see for miles as they were pretty far away.  And my last experience of Hyde Park (again The Who) at the front of the section outside the golden circle was abysmal, with the sound being blown in the wind and general sh!t housery in the area I was in, almost getting into a couple of fights!

The O2 is as big as I will do apart from big sparsely attended fields like Audley End and MK Bowl.  And only because its pretty nearby.  Unfortunately, Damned are playing Wembley Arena next year, which is a bit of a drag to get to.  But I have to go for the 50th anniversary gig



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Eamonn wrote:

It's a Nick Banks book-talk on a boat, apparently!


 OOH I might go to that - the rough trade one was just the host constantly asking about jarvis, ****ing annoying.  I even said to Nick when I got my book signed that I was sorry she only asked about Jarvis and not much about him, he said he didn't mind.  I did!

edit - balls, can't go I'm on a nightshift.



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Doubt anyone doesn't have it yet, but Rough Trade just emailed out a link to their sale and an extra 25% discount code. Loads of versions of More are on there. With the code, the "Tour editions" are £16.50 each. Ink spot edition £22.50, the 2xLP 45rpm edition £26.25.

All not bad. Quite like the ink spot edition.

But I ended up with 2 copies anyway, so I'll hold off...

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