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So Tina is on the 6Music A-list playlist and has been played on Radio 2 drive-time this week. Is it common for album tracks to get such attention or are Rough Trade testing the waters before releasing it as a single - although I'm not sure what that means exactly anymore. But if not a vinyl release, maybe a video?

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Tina has a little of the Something Changed about it, albeit with a tad more Pulp wickedness. It'd be a shrewd choice for a third single.

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A few DC cutouts would look chipper in front of that sign in LA. Perhaps with a crowd of Monroe and Dean impersonators running between them, or something. I dunno. And Jean Harlow, obviously.

Third single from more? I reckon Tina is a shoe-in. I remember it starting the first time I played the album - after Spike finished and I was entering mostly virgin territory, still worried that the whole thing might prove a pastiche (pah!) - and within a few chords I felt the proof Pulp are still the real deal and an ongoing creative force to the pits of my very soul. My very soul!!

Background Noise runs it close, but for me Tina has a touch more sophistication and is less obviously marketable. Both bonuses. Indie credibility: Spike and GRHL are pure pop (and great for that), but Tina is more writerly. Partial Eclipse is great but not marketable enough - the rhythm of the lyrics is too busy at the crucial moment to worm its way into peoples brains after a listen or two.

Id be thrilled if it was My Sex. Pure sass and full of relevance. Capitalise on all those new listeners and earn a few more. Itd be banned from the radio -a wonderful echo of Little Girl with Blue Eyes. But that wouldnt stop that particular demographic hearing it, and to be honest, how many new fans are they going to win in their 40s? Either they know Pulp already but have an Oasis gig to get to, or they havent heard them, and god help them and the rest of us.

50/1 its A Sunset, and therefore the last Pulp release ever. Didnt like that as the name of the last track of More either, and that was before hearing the lyrics. An expensive goodbye though, I suppose, with the royalties thing.

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I remember Blur being criticised for releasing a single after the album a couple of years ago.

I don't think that there's any merit in it unless they can give us something else i.e. B-sides. The only song remaining from the album sessions is the unfinished instrumental. That said, there are alternative versions of album tracks in the vaults (the instrumental of "Grown Ups" from 1997 and at least 2 versions of "Got to Have Love" from 1999/2000). I wonder if they could be released as B-sides.

"Tina" or "Background Noise" would get my vote though I don't believe that this will be the last Pulp release ever. Jarvis has already hinted at new material but I think that they will take a break after the current tour and return in 2026/7.

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Candida said they recorded 20 so there are plenty knocking around for b-side material.

What was the criticism of blur? That it was essentially pointless as the LP was out?

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I remember seeing a few discussions on Reddit pretty much saying that it was pointless to release a 1 track single after the album. It had an AI generated lyric video so we can't even call that a bonus.

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Candida said they recorded 20 so there are plenty knocking around for b-side material.


 

Pulp, if you read this, we obviously need to hear some of them. july or august, even september is fine. An EP. Thanx. 



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Candida: "I dont know how many songs we came up with maybe 20 but we recorded 13".

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Candida: "I dont know how many songs we came up with maybe 20 but we recorded 13".


 

Yeah, I imagine the rest were just the full band tinkering through Proceed To The Route, Locked Down, Cuckoo Song and similar in practice and going 'nah'



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The chances are that they at least considered all or most of the "lost" songs from 1999-2001 rather than just going straight in with "Got to Have Love". If I remember rightly, Mark spoke very highly of "Last Song in the World" so there's a possibility that it may be used in future (alongside others - "Emmanuel" for example must have some weight in it if they attempted to record it for "Hits").

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Ian wrote:

The chances are that they at least considered all or most of the "lost" songs from 1999-2001 rather than just going straight in with "Got to Have Love". If I remember rightly, Mark spoke very highly of "Last Song in the World" so there's a possibility that it may be used in future (alongside others - "Emmanuel" for example must have some weight in it if they attempted to record it for "Hits").


 

Mark also said that Got To Have Love and After You were always the two obvious 'hits' from that period, but they actively avoided putting them on WLL for that reason.  So perhaps it was straight to GTHL, now they were in a more 'hitty' mood again?



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Possibly, but that said, the January 2000 version was recorded (and presumably archived) alongside 7 unreleased songs if you include "Grandfathers Nursery" so it's entirely possible that some of them got a look-in. 



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Someone try and get it out of Mark today!

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New video for Tina tomorrow per Jarvis' Insta. Animation/karaoke effort by the looks of it.

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As everybody's guessing, TINA is the winner! Wondering if any of the band member, close friends, band manager use the forum. Or psychic again!

Can't wait!!

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Tina - A side
Paula - re-record bside ?  biggrin

 



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A side : Tina
B sides : Tina (live) / Tina remix / Tina (spoken version) / T.I.N.A (spelled version)

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Here it is, but what happened to do not read the lyrics whilst... etc

youtu.be/ogkaiFytzu8



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andy wrote:

Tina - A side
Paula - re-record bside ?  biggrin

 


 EP with Sylvia, Inside Susan, Deborah/Gloria and Angela.



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Definitely the best video of the three. What makes it a single in 2025 though? Will note that Got To Have Love has not been issued as a single on any format, and does not have any b-sides, so would not really expect anything different for Tina.

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A video plus radio-play makes them singles I guess, both were/are playlisted.

It was funny listening to it on the radio - they faded the word "screwing" out on the radio edit.

 

Pulp would like to introduce Tina, the latest single taken from their UK No.1 album More, which is released today with a new video.

 

I love this video - its like digital Fuzzy-Felt, declares Jarvis ****er. Tina was one of the last songs written for More. Its about obsession & fantasy. You should feel like you need a shower after listening to it


Illuminating Tinas lyrics with bespoke designs,  live footage from Pulps recent shows and Jarvis ****ers iconic silhouette,



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weej wrote:

Definitely the best video of the three. What makes it a single in 2025 though? Will note that Got To Have Love has not been issued as a single on any format, and does not have any b-sides, so would not really expect anything different for Tina.


 

They are generally not even called singles now, they are called 'drops'.  It's just drip feeding tracks from the album to encourage people to pre-order them. 

That's why you almost never get post-album singles these days, as they'd just be letting you have an MP3 that you've already got.



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Eamonn wrote:

A video plus radio-play makes them singles I guess, both were/are playlisted.

It was funny listening to it on the radio - they faded the word "screwing" out on the radio edit.


 Same on the official video. Does the "screw" in Common People get muted these days?



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They are not singles anymore, they are teasers, or youtube content.

The video is exactly what youtube user want. visual and lyrics.

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