still got the feeling that we have lost 24 years...
Conversely, Jarvis had already done 24 years of 'Pulp' - man and boy - by the time they disbanded in 2002, so I don't blame him for wanting to take a break at that point and do something different / work with new people. He also got married and had a child, let's not forget. That changes a person.
Had they carried on after We Love Life the whole thing might have slowly petered out to nothing, or relationships between band members might have been strained to the point where a reunion would be unthinkable.
I think back in 2011-13 we all hoped for new material but the will - crucially from Jarvis - clearly wasn't there. The wind has changed, so let's hope it keeps blowing in the right direction.
The only fail to me is all those WLL and TIH demos left for dead. They could have made such a great record with only those two leftovers
Grown Ups
You Are The One
Street Operator
Can I Have My Balls Back, Please?
Cuckoo Song
Quiet Revolution
After You
The Last Song In The World
Sliding Through Life On Charm
Love Is
It's a Dirty World
Big Bulk of great tunes that could have made one more final album. WLL was a bit of a miss to me.
Jarvis has released somewhere between 3 and 7 albums during that time, so it isn't like we've had nothing.
2 solo albums, 1 chilly, 2 Jarv Is, 1 cover album, 1 Relaxed Muscle, 1 Likely Stories, 1 Suite for Ian & Jane, 3 songs for Harry Potter and many collabs.
Mark and Candida had no interest in making a new record in 2012/13. And Nick's comment on the radio the other day was telling. This time round he told Jarvis that if a new album meant spending a year in the studio like the last two times, he wasn't up for it. Luckily, Jarvis felt the same way.
It does feel that in general Pulp didn't release as much music/albums as they could have done. Their quality control from 1992 onwards is really high.
But they are also the most human of bands, flaws and all. (I just read a comment from someone reacting to the Spike Island video - "We don't want no AI. We just want the right to be different. That's all").
I find it more impressive that they held it together to release TIH and WLL. The mid-90s changed all of them and not necessarily in pleasant ways. They had already spent many years perceived as failures. Success was bittersweet and they weren't a band who enjoyed touring, Candida and Russell especially.
Even last night on the JR Show, you could sense Jarvis playing along with the famous personality part of his "job", but not being totally comfortable with it.
I just could never see them as a group who does the same three year cycle of write, record, release, promote and tour on a long-term basis. They all need time to do other things and live normal lives.
-- Edited by Eamonn on Sunday 13th of April 2025 11:05:20 AM
Like Bookmark, I'm not a huge fan of this one. It has grown on me but I think I just don't hear it as the single but then I felt like that about Trees and I love that. I'm really looking forward to Got to Have Love and Hymn of the North.
I'm also looking forward to hearing the new ones because i didn't keep up with the other live YouTube vids.
Mark and Candida had no interest in making a new record in 2012/13. And Nick's comment on the radio the other day was telling. This time round he told Jarvis that if a new album meant spending a year in the studio like the last two times, he wasn't up for it. Luckily, Jarvis felt the same way.
It does feel that in general Pulp didn't release as much music/albums as they could have done. Their quality control from 1992 onwards is really high.
But they are also the most human of bands, flaws and all. (I just read a comment from someone reacting to the Spike Island video - "We don't want no AI. We just want the right to be different. That's all").
I find it more impressive that they held it together to release TIH and WLL. The mid-90s changed all of them and not necessarily in pleasant ways. They had already spent many years perceived as failures. Success was bittersweet and they weren't a band who enjoyed touring, Candida and Russell especially.
Even last night on the JR Show, you could sense Jarvis playing along with the famous personality part of his "job", but not being totally comfortable with it.
I just could never see them as a group who does the same three year cycle of write, record, release, promote and tour on a long-term basis. They all need time to do other things and live normal lives.
-- Edited by Eamonn on Sunday 13th of April 2025 11:05:20 AM
Russell always felt to me like a big in the A, if you ask me. But i could be wrong. For the rest, its all valid points. but as a musician and songwriters, having all those unreleased unfinished demos, it feels really like unborn children.
Maybe but lots of artists have big archives of material. I read this week that 8 unreleased Bruce Springsteen albums from the last 45 years are coming out this summer!
Mark Webber didn't once pick-up a guitar during Pulp's hibernation. And I can't imagine Candida tinkering with melodies in a houseful of synthesizers (I may be wrong)! Steve became more interested in production and design aspects of music and art generally.
Which just leaves Nick and Jarvis who have "the bug" for making new music and performing live. They've both been involved in various projects since 2002 but two people isn't enough for a Pulp reboot. So I'm glad Mark and Candy have come on-board fully again. And just grateful that they've managed to finish and release an album in 2025!
Emma Smith who clearly has the best job in music, was playing violin for Beth Gibbons at Coachella at the weekend, hence why she didn't appear with Pulp on the JR Show I assume.
Saw a video of the performance of Beth singing Glory Box by her old band Portishead (incredible) and from the silhouette and based on seeing her and band last year, it looked like James Ford was on keyboards.