Not really much of a student of these things, but rewatching the set this morning I see that Jarvis is playing Babies on the guitar given to him by his mothers German boyfriend - the first electric he ever owned and used to play along to Peel session with in his bedroom. Is that often the case?
-- Edited by superchob on Sunday 29th of June 2025 10:09:24 AM
Yep, he's always used it on Babies except on the Hardcore (and WLL?) tours.
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also, did I just hear that the SH*Tstains and grease will come out in the bath!? I know theres been commentary on the change from Knew to Thought in D2000, but this one is new to me
He sometimes used to sing s*hit stains in the old days, IIRC, it's not a new development. I was surprised yesterday though, given he cleaned up that word in Sorted!
The Pulp set is now up on iPlayer as a standalone video (audio bitrate 128kbps). Meanwhile the audio, a different mix from BBC 6 Music and at a far more acceptable 320kbps, is on BBC Sounds (though annoyingly there's some unintentional audible 'talkback' from the presenter during Disco 2000! Argh!).
As expected the video runs a little shorter (59:05) than the livestream (1:04:51), cutting a lot of the build up. Not had a chance to compare for individual edits etc.
andy wrote:
thanx for 1080p Pip i'll watch that with great pleasure :)
zaqx wrote:
Yes please Pip, the BBC Two in 1080 would be amazing :) thank you
No problem, check back this evening :)
-- Edited by Pip on Sunday 29th of June 2025 01:50:18 PM
This was brilliant, but... should have been headliners. It was a missed opportunity.
Headliners as far as I was concerned. After watching PULP. (twice) every subsequent act paled into insignificance. Had I gone, I would have packed my tent last night and headed home.
I dont think the end things with their US tour thats already booked ou this fall.. I could see EU tour with mostly festivals plus some UK shows to wind down the tour for More next summer.
Then after that I think it comes down to if they want to keep trying to put out more music
Part of me worries that Pulp might decide this is the Peak Part II and the best way to sign-off, (after all remaining touring engagements for More are done). Really hope not.
I expect the opposite. Wouldn't surprise me if there is another LP and big outdoor dates next year. The band seem energised in a way they weren't back in 2012 or even a year ago. Having a couple of killer new singles helps. No Glastonbury next year, so maybe they could do something like Forever Now, BST, Reading/Leeds, IoW, or maybe some full on stadium gigs. Or better still something like the suede South Bank takeover. PULP. got prime time broadcast TV coverage last night. Better than Casualty.
Thank you so much, Pip. I didn't get to watch in peace as I was babysitting so we'd to shout and dance for the entire set. That's the only way the little mites would agree to it. God knows I'd listened to their chicken minecraft song enough
Want to watch in peace later hopefully. Bits probably surfacing on YouTube. I couldn't hear the interview.
Eamonn, the thought crossed my mind too would they call it a day on a high. More really has echoes of The Next Day for me and who knows maybe they'll pull a Bowie on it and take another few years and come out with something else. TND is the more commercial one but Blackstar was such a finale. If he hadn't been ill I'm guessing he would've carried on. An artist's work I suppose doesn't conform to calendar. Jarvis has shown he'll always be doing something but, yeah, as Pulp I wonder but maybe they all have the bug again now and won't want to put away their instruments. I really hope they do go on. If they want to do some more WLL a la GTHL that could spur them on and give them a headstart. I just love the original Cuckoo, My Mistake could be fleshed out and Grandfather's Nursery is just brilliant as is.
I LOVED Mark taking JC's bait in Misshapes to hog the limelight and do a little guitar Dad dance during the solo. There were also some close-ups of Webbo nodding his head with what looked like such chilled enjoyment at different points.
While Emma and Richard, the absolute trojans that they are, had beaming smiles throughout and it felt like there was no way they were missing out on this no matter how knackered they were from playing the night before and presumably travelling down Saturday morning before doing another set straight after with BG!
I bet the Elyssians were proud of their musical siblings, uncles and aunties, watching on the telly.
The whole frickin' Pulp Incorporated enterprise seems to be booming, please let it blossom for a couple of more years before Jarv and Candida's pensions kicks in.
I LOVED Mark taking JC's bait in Misshapes to hog the limelight and do a little guitar Dad dance during the solo. There were also some close-ups of Webbo nodding his head with what looked like such chilled enjoyment at different points.
While Emma and Richard, the absolute trojans that they are, had beaming smiles throughout and it felt like there was no way they were missing out on this no matter how knackered they were from playing the night before and presumably travelling down Saturday morning before doing another set straight after with BG!
I bet the Elyssians were proud of their musical siblings, uncles and aunties, watching on the telly.
The whole frickin' Pulp Incorporated enterprise seems to be booming, please let it blossom for a couple of more years before Jarv and Candida's pensions kicks in.
Mark's really come into his own hasn't he? You felt that Russell and Steve were Jarvis's 'lieutenants', that he'd interact with them and lean on then, and that each of them cultivated their own stage presence that drew attention by themselves, a charisma and an aura. Mark's doing that now, he's nailed the role down for sure. And he seems to be enjoying Pulp more than ever, too - joking around with the other Pulps, sticking his hands in his pockets when he's nothing to play, moving around on the stage, enjoying those solos which punctuate key songs and bring clear focus onto him, and then it's really great seeing him really locking in and losing himself in the music, twirling around during 'Help the Aged', striking chords during 'Acrylic Afternoons', clearly relishing 'The Fear'. During 'Sunrise', at the first night of the O2 too, he lifted both his arms up in the air just as the song started, as if to say 'this is MY moment'. It stood out to me as it's not often someone other than Jarvis gets into it like that, embracing the sense of performance and stardom that comes with being a band of that size. Rock on, Mark!
He's also the OG Mis-Shape. He clearly has his own unique tastes, in music and film. Was a young fan when they emerged, progressed to running the fanclub, roadied for them, helped them out on stage, became too skilled to ignore, got asked to join. (Back in those days he looked like I'm sure many Pulp fans did, with his mop of hair and painted nails.) Then he refined and played the solo on the song! It's sweet that Jarvis turns to him and they have that little dance down that calls to mind the video 'Mis-Shapes' was Mark's first appearance on a Pulp record and I think it exemplifies a lot about him, in terms of his place within the Pulp story.
All the Pulps have so much character and so much about them - Candida obviously is as much an icon as Jarvis is, judging from the roar that greets her every time she's introduced to the crowd but also from the fact that, well, she's Candida! Nick is interesting, smart, characterful and has the toolkit to be the frontman of any band - I mean, he's got more about him than many of the frontmen who trailed in Britpop's wake. And I love what Mark brings to the performance: professionalism, proficiency, personality, but also a sense that he's really engaging with what Pulp means, too.
-- Edited by lipglossed on Sunday 29th of June 2025 02:56:35 PM
I LOVED Mark taking JC's bait in Misshapes to hog the limelight and do a little guitar Dad dance during the solo. There were also some close-ups of Webbo nodding his head with what looked like such chilled enjoyment at different points.
While Emma and Richard, the absolute trojans that they are, had beaming smiles throughout and it felt like there was no way they were missing out on this no matter how knackered they were from playing the night before and presumably travelling down Saturday morning before doing another set straight after with BG!
I bet the Elyssians were proud of their musical siblings, uncles and aunties, watching on the telly.
The whole frickin' Pulp Incorporated enterprise seems to be booming, please let it blossom for a couple of more years before Jarv and Candida's pensions kicks in.
Mark's really come into his own hasn't he? You felt that Russell and Steve were Jarvis's 'lieutenants', that he'd interact with them and lean on then, and that each of them cultivated their own stage presence that drew attention by themselves, a charisma and an aura. Mark's doing that now, he's nailed the role down for sure. And he seems to be enjoying Pulp more than ever, too - joking around with the other Pulps, sticking his hands in his pockets when he's nothing to play, moving around on the stage, enjoying those solos which punctuate key songs and bring clear focus onto him, and then it's really great seeing him really locking in and losing himself in the music, twirling around during 'Help the Aged', striking chords during 'Acrylic Afternoons', clearly relishing 'The Fear'. During 'Sunrise', at the first night of the O2 too, he lifted both his arms up in the air just as the song started, as if to say 'this is MY moment'. It stood out to me as it's not often someone other than Jarvis gets into it like that, embracing the sense of performance and stardom that comes with being a band of that size. Rock on, Mark!
He's also the OG Mis-Shape. He clearly has his own unique tastes, in music and film. Was a young fan when they emerged, progressed to running the fanclub, roadied for them, helped them out on stage, became too skilled to ignore, got asked to join. (Back in those days he looked like I'm sure many Pulp fans did, with his mop of hair and painted nails.) Then he refined and played the solo on the song! It's sweet that Jarvis turns to him and they have that little dance down that calls to mind the video 'Mis-Shapes' was Mark's first appearance on a Pulp record and I think it exemplifies a lot about him, in terms of his place within the Pulp story.
All the Pulps have so much character and so much about them - Candida obviously is as much an icon as Jarvis is, judging from the roar that greets her every time she's introduced to the crowd but also from the fact that, well, she's Candida! Nick is interesting, smart, characterful and has the toolkit to be the frontman of any band - I mean, he's got more about him than many of the frontmen who trailed in Britpop's wake. And I love what Mark brings to the performance: professionalism, proficiency, personality, but also a sense that he's really engaging with what Pulp means, too.
-- Edited by lipglossed on Sunday 29th of June 2025 02:56:35 PM
I've been wondering if the expansion of the band has really helped Mark's confidence. Until that happened, he was always the most recent and youngest member of the band. Now he is one of the original 4, with loads of extra people added on.
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I've been wondering if the expansion of the band has really helped Mark's confidence. Until that happened, he was always the most recent and youngest member of the band. Now he is one of the original 4, with loads of extra people added on.
He was the extra person on stage from 1992. Never seen Pulp without him. Agree that he seemed to be in the shadow of the the other axe men (including Hawley), but now he is the main man.
-- Edited by ArrGee on Sunday 29th of June 2025 09:24:59 PM
I LOVED Mark taking JC's bait in Misshapes to hog the limelight and do a little guitar Dad dance during the solo. There were also some close-ups of Webbo nodding his head with what looked like such chilled enjoyment at different points.
That's been a feature of the shows I've seen this year, so far.
Shame we didn't get to see nonchalant Mark walking around during Babies, and only returning to the keyboard for his couple of notes. Love that stuff.
We *did* get to see him play with arms crossed over each other, though. That was fun.
Must be something about being in Pulp on the front left of the stage that makes one act up a bit. Love it.
I'm not familiar with Glastonbury, this is a very british tradition isn't it
3 observations:
- Some people hold a giant flag for a day and watch gigs like that. And some people pay a lot of money to hear music and see only those flags all day behind them ! Also, is there a message behind those flags ? - First time i've seen Jarvis with a cordless mic, and that is weird ! it's like something is missing - Jarvis sounded a bit tired
- Bonus observation : I dont think ive ever seen Jarvis wear a cap, and he's got apparently "stage shoes" and "offstage shoes"
Thanx again Pip, it's perfect.
-- Edited by andy on Monday 30th of June 2025 12:27:58 PM
- Some people hold a giant flag for a day and watch gigs like that. And some people pay a lot of money to hear music and see only those flags all day behind them ! Also, is there a message behind those flags ?
Yes. Screw all of you behind me. Similarly when someone directly in front of you puts a mobile phone in your direct line of vision. Getting beyond the joke nowadays. I had someone filming at the theatre in front of me the other week, so I shouted at them to put their phone away and got a few yeahs from the people around me.
Have to confess that when I went in 1999 I must have seen maybe three bands all weekend, spent significantly more time dancing outside a stall selling an energy drink called Indigo.
When Jarv ripped-up his 1995 speech after referencing it at Glasto at the weekend, do you think it was the original paper (actually looked like cardboard)?
Hope he photographed it first for inclusion in his sequel to Good Pop Bad Pop (which, he is apparently working on - when he's not doing Pulp Summer).