Aw, I absolutely loved The Next Day and Blackstar :) I love Bowie full stop and find myself going through phases where I'll be mad into the early 70s stuff, then I'll be mad into the 90s stuff and to be honest I hold TND and Blackstar right up there with his best works. Just goes to show how taste differs! Pulp really blew me away last year when I wasn't expecting it. That stage production was so well put together and presented. The string section added so much. I can definitely hear them and see them managing something very special. I'm equally happy if they don't record anything at all. We've a great canon of work there already to enjoy endlessly. One song I would just love to hear recorded with the string section in all its glory is Hymn of the North. That's right up there for me as one of my favourites. Just one of those songs that really moves me. An album can have 6 or 7 songs (station to station, blackstar). Doesn't have to be a 12 song affair. Cuckoo is another one I'd love to hear in better quality. Grandfather's Nursey is already there. What will be will be.
-- Edited by Jean on Monday 19th of August 2024 09:53:18 PM
Aw, I absolutely loved The Next Day and Blackstar :) I love Bowie full stop and find myself going through phases where I'll be mad into the early 70s stuff, then I'll be mad into the 90s stuff and to be honest I hold TND and Blackstar right up there with his best works. Just goes to show how taste differs!
Agreed. The Next Day was an unexpected triumph. Buddha of Surburbia was the only LP post Lets Dance that I really liked prior to that and it was only a soundtrack. Some good tracks on other LPs but a lot of it was hit and miss. Blackstar was as good as anything else Bowie made in my opinion. Well except Aladdin Sane. Nothing beats that as far as I am concerned.
My point is, even if the new album is superior to say, Freaks or the Masters compilation, but doesn't surpass what is recognised as the more 'classic' music, does that mean it should never come out? Would it really detract from any so-called legacy, just because it was 6/10? I don't see why.
I love The Next Day! Big highlights for me would be How Does the Grass Grow? and Valentine's Day but I pretty much like it all. I often think with that album he perfected each sound he had. For example, If You Can See Me sounds like an Earthling era song but if it was on Earthling it'd be a contender for its best track. Valentine's Day is like a contender for the Ziggy era, How does the grass... that's like Scary Monsters era etc etc. Heat is like Outside era. You feel so lonely... that's like Heathen era. I just felt like he revisited everything and perfected it with that album. Then once the slate was clean he could produce the likes of Blackstar and surprise everyone all over again.
I think Buddha is his strongest 90s offering but I have a soft spot for Outside and Earthling too.
He left us on a real high and even if he hadn't done those last 2 albums he was always going to be my old favourite but it was a fitting end artistically to do those last two particularly Blackstar and I'm so happy there was the time for it to happen.
Same with Pulp. They'll always have huge emotional significance to me no matter what happens but going back to what Jarvis said before about Glastonbury 95 would be the closing scene in the film...sometimes my mind wanders off to imagining them leaving on another high in album terms. WLL has been the end in my mind for years though and it's fitting in it's own way. They had the success (DC), then the hangover (TiH) and this(WLL) was like picking themselves back up and swearing to live a cleaner life after the hangover here comes sunrise. And that's one nice ending. A sunset could be one too though. What will be will be. It's been a fantastic voyage either way :)
-- Edited by Jean on Tuesday 20th of August 2024 02:02:09 PM
Portisheads Third was worth a ten year wait and felt authentic when it landed. Its the risk of pastiche that gets you worrying. Suede started self-parodying well before they even split up
Jarvis has shown no evidence of losing it with his solo & collaborative projects. I think hed know better than to overdo the fingerwaving. The man has great taste. I suspect thered be more along the lines of Hymn of the North, and refinement of that sort of song, than a collection of After Yous. That fits Jarvis writing trajectory too methinks, and continues the tradition of slower, spoken-word efforts that Pulp do so well. And will be kinder to his vocal range.
I love how organically We Love Life takes everything full circle. That album and Hardcore feel like companion pieces. With We Love Life you have the mature musical progression of Pulp's sound, given air and room to breathe for the first time proper. And it's there in the songs: Bad Cover Version recalls the jealous ballads of His 'N' Hers, Weeds recalls the class anthems of Different Class, it's all in there; especially in Wickerman which is an odyssey through all of those past stories, meandering yet purposeful... so beautiful and poetic... it's an album about how endings are beginnings, and it's never too late to start again and open a new page... life, death, and renewal, through nature's life-cycles (trees and sunrise), and before the sunrise the penultimate track Roadkill sounds like it could be off the very first Pulp album... a foray into the past then a leap into the new...
I could honestly be talked into thinking it's the greatest thing Pulp have ever done (even though I don't go a bundle on Bob Lind). But as perfectly as it brings things full-circle, it leaves the future open. That's the genius of a wise, wise album that knew it was ending something before the jig was actually up: the fact there's unfinished business is actually what so neatly finishes the business. The three songs we've heard (two Jarvis/Hawley tinkerings and one outright Pulp track) all plough that same furrow.
Everything has been incredibly astute with how the Pulp legacy has been managed. Jarvis got to go and do his own thing and make songs he couldn't with Pulp, like his album with Steve Albini (it's so sad to think that half the people in the room on Further Complications aren't with us anymore). And Pulp sat back and saw that Pulp aged incredibly, incredibly well - finer than fine wine - songs like Common People and Mis-Shapes have only grown in momentous purpose... we need them more than ever now, really, really, more than ever. I think they know that.
-- Edited by lipglossed on Wednesday 21st of August 2024 08:27:23 PM
Please try go a bundle on Bob. You won't regret it.
Sorry to drag further off topic but surly I can't be the only one who thinks Bob Lind is the best song on the album?
To me it's a great companion peice to 'Dishes'. Both songs have strange, jangly, almost ethereal strings that seem to be going in completely different direction to everything else that's going on, and then, every so often it all comes together magically and gives me a bit of the goosebumps. Similarly the lyrics to both hit hard with their humble resignation and acceptance of fate.
Bob is probably the only song on WLL I revisit with any regularity. I'm boggled it's gets slagged off so often. What's to hate? I mean, Roadkill is hardly even a song, and it doesn't get half the abuse.
Hmm. To me, Bob is just fine. I think the first side is just fabulous but the second side of WLL has a little too much air left in it. And I think that's part of the charm, really. Roadkill isn't incredible but it's incredibly sad, and it's homely and nice and it sounds like it could've been on It, and it's an essential forlorn piece of that final album that I think is necessary even if it isn't one I really return to... there's so much emotion bound up in that song, all the "time torn off unused" as Larkin put it, the latent sadness that's always been there in the background is finally fully voiced on the penultimate Pulp song. But it isn't quite as good as Someone Like the Moon, because it's always easier and nicer to listen to sad portraits that are less close to the bone, that retain a sense of affable dog-eared charm...