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mavissucker


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Hey there, bit nervous to post on here because as a *light* user of morrissey-solo I haven't had very nice experiences with forum sites. There's something about it that I find very intimidating. Anyway.

I'm working on a zine at the moment about pre fame pulp and I've been digging for obscurities, I've found alot of rare pictures (let me know if anyone wants them/I should post). But I've noticed alot of you, and especially more prevalent ppl like acrylic afternoons, the 'freaks, mishapes, weeds' blog, whoever originated pulp wiki etc, are very good at finding lost pulp media. I'm wondering if it's just because people have been around since the pulp boom and just happened to be there to collect all this stuff, but idk if there's a knack to it i'm missing. Any advice on how to go about searching for things, how to find magazine scans, old vids etc ??? Idk if I should go about emailing strangers with possible connections like crazy or what. 



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Depends what you consider to be lost, or obscure... there's a lot available. Have you got the Pulp Portfolios, the assembly of early recordings put together around 10 years ago? If you search this forum for Portfolios 1-14 you'll find the link.

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We've got the best damned archivists and finders outside of the CIA on this here forum and by extension, the Pulp online community.

Whatever is left to be found won't be found cos it don't wanna be found.

Nah, there's always something....right?

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Well it depends how deep you want to dig and whether you're able to pay out... Photographers like Zbysiu Rodak, Karl Lang, David Bocking will have numerous unseen or barely seen pics of Pulp from the 80s, but those guys are professionals and understandably aren't about to hand over stuff from their archives for free.

Video is scarcer: they weren't on TV till 1991, and pretty much everything that's been found from before then has been released either on the Hits DVD or The Beat Is The Law. There's also the 2006 BBC Common People documentary which has some little bits of super 8 film from 1979/80.

There's also legendary stuff like the Maureen video and the Day That Never Happened video, but you're not going to get hold of those unless you know some way of getting into Jarvis's loft!

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It's funny because one of my closest online friends is a super in depth Morrissey archivist and has a fansite the Moz equivalent of acrylicafternoons. Morrissey info is much more widely available in books and magazine scans though :(



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I think if you're looking for press scans, 99% of whatever made it public is surely out there between the band-endorsed Pulp Scrapbooks, Acrylic Afts and the Wiki.

What I'd love to read and is rarer to find, (ironically given their fan-foundation roots); are all the fanzines that sprung-up about Pulp in the 90s and specifically the interviews they would have managed to get with band members.

I know these might have been only 5 or 10 snatched minutes at a soundcheck or after a gig but there may be gold in them hills - and all the better for it being a platform for everyone in the group other than Jarvis a chance to shoot the breeze.

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Are there scans of the old Pulp Scrapbooks online? I ask because I lost my original copy of the first one. I know it's all been typed up but it'd be great to read it as it looked at the time.

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If you're after rare and live recordings, check out my website:
www.feelingcalledlive.co.uk

I think that [parts of] the scrapbooks have been transcribed on the Wiki. I still have copies of these (and "Disco-very") but they are at my other house along with several boxes of tapes and CDRs. I will grab everything next time I'm there and will upload anything that isn't already available.

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Eamonn wrote:

What I'd love to read and is rarer to find, (ironically given their fan-foundation roots); are all the fanzines that sprung-up about Pulp in the 90s and specifically the interviews they would have managed to get with band members.

I know these might have been only 5 or 10 snatched minutes at a soundcheck or after a gig but there may be gold in them hills - and all the better for it being a platform for everyone in the group other than Jarvis a chance to shoot the breeze.

 

I have a big box of 90s zines in the garage, many of them Pulp-related, but I don't recall any with actual interviews with members of the band, sorry.

However I should really scan what I have, one of these days I will get around to it.



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There's an archived website here:
web.archive.org/web/20001002184353/http://martnet.com/~bflysmle/eetv/eetv2.html

From memory, I think they did some online chats with band members.

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Does anyone remember Jammy Jezzabelle zine? I feel like that might have had an interview with Candida in it circa 95/96. Unfortunately I leant my copies to someone a very long time ago and never saw them again!

I've also just unearthed a Sounds interview from 1986 which I've added to the Wiki.

Anyway, this sounds like a great idea for a zine, looking forward to seeing it.

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Ok, here's some genuine lost media for you. In 1986, Jarvis was interviewed by Martin Aston for the Dutch music paper Oor. The same interview was used the following year as the basis for a piece in the UK magazine Underground, which we have, but I don't think the original Oor article (assuming it was actually published) has ever surfaced. Happy hunting!

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Potentially a bit of lost media - Jarvis was supposed to be on Newsround in 1995 - they trailered it - I think he had been at some fashion event, perhaps? I remember watching CBBC that day and thinking "oh good", but there ended up being newsflash about John Major calling the Tory party leadership election, which saw the episode being cancelled. I don't know if they showed the Jarvis footage the day after, or anything (I didn't tune in), just that episode obviously didn't get to go out when it was supposed to.  Does anyone remember this?  Not certain it was a fashion event.  Would have been 22 June 1995.



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You've got a really good memory. How do you know the exact date?!

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hawalius1 wrote:

Depends what you consider to be lost, or obscure... there's a lot available. Have you got the Pulp Portfolios, the assembly of early recordings put together around 10 years ago? If you search this forum for Portfolios 1-14 you'll find the link.

 10 years?! Christ, that's a stark figure.

Personally, I managed to get a lot of 'lost media' unlost through emailing the people who'd recorded the media in the first place and asking if I could distribute it. Subsequently, others came forward with a "Thanks for sharing this obscurity. I'm really grateful, and so I'm going to give you this". Nice snowballing effect of generosity.



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Sturdy wrote:

Ok, here's some genuine lost media for you. In 1986, Jarvis was interviewed by Martin Aston for the Dutch music paper Oor. The same interview was used the following year as the basis for a piece in the UK magazine Underground, which we have, but I don't think the original Oor article (assuming it was actually published) has ever surfaced. Happy hunting!

I've asked Martin about this and it may be a red herring, so don't search too hard!

Meir Gal, the guy who took the photos that day, has had a pretty interesting career since then - http://meirgal.squarespace.com/



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PaulTMA wrote:

Potentially a bit of lost media - Jarvis was supposed to be on Newsround in 1995 - they trailered it - I think he had been at some fashion event, perhaps? I remember watching CBBC that day and thinking "oh good", but there ended up being newsflash about John Major calling the Tory party leadership election, which saw the episode being cancelled. I don't know if they showed the Jarvis footage the day after, or anything (I didn't tune in), just that episode obviously didn't get to go out when it was supposed to.  Does anyone remember this?  Not certain it was a fashion event.  Would have been 22 June 1995.



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 Could that have been when Jarvis designed some shoes that had a transparent panel, so to make your shoes match whatever else you were wearing, all you had to do is change your socks? 



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Sturdy wrote:

Ok, here's some genuine lost media for you. In 1986, Jarvis was interviewed by Martin Aston for the Dutch music paper Oor. The same interview was used the following year as the basis for a piece in the UK magazine Underground, which we have, but I don't think the original Oor article (assuming it was actually published) has ever surfaced. Happy hunting!

 He's a friend of mine - we actually went to Mexico together to see them last year!  I'll message him and see if he has it in his files



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See my reply a couple of threads down, already asked him and it looks like this was a red herring.

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