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Definitely a dad thing, makes sense now.

The presenters weren't too bad although one of them, who initially seemed more knowledgeable about Pulp, dropped a bit of a clanger asking Mark if Pulp were going to make a comeback.

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Book launch at the ICA in London on November 27th:

https://www.ica.art/learning/book-launch-i-m-with-pulp-are-you



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Eamonn wrote:

Book launch at the ICA in London on November 27th:

https://www.ica.art/learning/book-launch-i-m-with-pulp-are-you


 I'll go if other people are going. Then you can bare witness when he has me forcibly removed from the building because apparently he hates me that much. 



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I'll go for sure, will have to lug that book to London and back though!

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Quite amusing that it will take place there given that in his book Mark grumbles about the ICA taking all the revenue from his Little Stabs nights back in the day!

Whoever's going, please record if poss and don't ask dumb questions, ask good ones.

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Giles Acrylic delivers yet again with a barnstormer of an interview with Mark:

https://t.co/QT0neYtlw1



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!!!

 

I heard recently that theres also a video of the Conservative Club concert from May 1986. I dont think I have a memory of this, but there was a guy who used to turn up at concerts with a VHS camera and would set up at the back. So its not impossible, but I dont know if it includes Pulp or even Siegfrieds Magick Box. Im waiting to find out. Its a recent revelation. 



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Yeah, but it might just be basic b&w footage like the Gotham City stuff on The Beat Is The Law DVD. That was a bit underwhelming.

Great going by Giles to extract more info on the 2000 Pulp sessions plus the new material. Frustrating that Jarvis had no interest in a Pulp at the Beeb boxset. Between Mark "checking-out" in 2001 and Jarvis spinning different plates, is there ever a time where all members are happy about Pulp?! Thankfully, maybe right now...


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Wish Jarvis wasn't so precious about what they play. Can understand it with the bleak Hardcore stuff, but come on man, pull your finger out! Give us some intimate shows!

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That really is a great interview. So much to unpick. I have to say I find his definition of what a song with substance is a bit tricky to pin down. Sorted no, Mile End yes. Hardcore no, Sylvia yes. 

Seems to me from this that new album likely, but itll be done as a turbo Jarv Is production. Which given how previous Pulp productions have gone may be a good thing if we actually want those songs recorded. 

is the peel Shes a Lady linked to form the article available to download anyway? Bonkers that didnt make the deluxe if thats how they all think the song should be. 



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Not officially, no, but you can find it here: feelingcalledlive.co.uk/2019/06/26/1992-05-30-bbc-mark-goodier-session-1992-6music-broadcast/

Hope we'll hear more about the 6 CDs (!!) of career-spanning material that Mark curated at some point. And maybe the anniversary release of Different Class will surface one day, with the remixed Glastonbury. Plenty to hope for!

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Kelvin wrote:

Seems to me from this that new album likely, but itll be done as a turbo Jarv Is production. Which given how previous Pulp productions have gone may be a good thing if we actually want those songs recorded. 


 

I wonder if they should work with someone like Martin Glover.  He gets bands over for 3 weeks residential in his studio in Andalusia.  And basically they record 1 song a day.  They start at breakfast with the demo, and don't go to bed till it's completely in the can.  Bands then finish the 3 weeks with a 12 song album and about 3 spares (b-sides) for a deluxe version.  He's delivered some really top form albums with that process too.  

Steve Albini was like that with Nirvana too - just said it would be better delivered in 2 weeks than if they took 2 years doing it.  Mark commented in the interview that they are already starting to overthinking Background Noise to its detriment.  



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MLady being confirmed as the same song as Medieval Owl is interesting.


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I dont think he said the extra-work to Background Noise was necessarily to its detriment. It sounds like it's missing a bridge section (per 2023 live version) so hopefully they've written one.

Also, while it's great that he's so opinionated which makes the book all the better, I don't trust his taste in Pulp songs at all. Hates half of the good stuff from Hardcore and has a bee in his bonnet about It's A Dirty World!

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Agreed, I feel like his opinion on the music of the band Pulp is diametrically opposed to mine - which is odd as, well, you know...

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MLady being confirmed as the same song as Medieval Owl is interesting.


 And odd, considering M'Lady was demo'd first with vocals/lyrics. Jarvis must have gone off them and the song was recorded again, only as an instrumental?



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He is already aware of my opinion of the interview, but it deserves to be put here too - Mr Acrylic, that interview is the dogs doo dahs mate. Bloody lovely stuff

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I heard recently that theres also a video of the Conservative Club concert from May 1986. I dont think I have a memory of this, but there was a guy who used to turn up at concerts with a VHS camera and would set up at the back. So its not impossible, but I dont know if it includes Pulp or even Siegfrieds Magick Box. Im waiting to find out. Its a recent revelation. 


 I can confirm that the video from this date contains The Bland's set only. No Pulp, no Siegfrieds Magick Box. Momentary shot of Jarvis walking past the camera.



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Eamonn wrote:

Giles Acrylic delivers yet again with a barnstormer of an interview with Mark:

https://t.co/QT0neYtlw1


 Thanks for sharing.

Interesting points throughout that interview, especially regarding the band democracy/dynamics and the seeming uncertainty as far as recording goes. Hopefully we do get a new record.

Kinda confirms that Jarvis has melded his band with Pulp now, which I like. In that respect - I reckon there's scope for a new album utilizing all members.



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So, in terms of new and unreleased material, we now know the following:

There are other new songs that they haven't yet played live. Some are derived from unfinished Pulp and Jarv Is Songs.

"White Owl", "Medieval Owl" and "M'Lady" are the same song.

"Last Song in the World" is described as a great, fully formed song along with all the other Wessex demos.

"Emmanuel" is in the same vein as "The Professional" and was never fully finished.

Mark was happy to release some of this material but Jarvis wasn't interested.

I'd say that the odds of a new album have increased!

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With the recording dilemma, i thought it interesting that the Bluetones, who also struggle studio wise (one member lives in Japan), have moved to a model of doing 3-track EPs every 4-6 months, rather than tackling the elephant of an album. The idea is that its 1/4 of an album, rather than a single with b-sides. I wonder if that might be a more viable approach for Pulp too?

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I seem to be looking to buy more books about Pulp than LPs in last 20 years...

...I would like to have a look at the book before purchasing, but looks interesting enough.

That written, I haven't even got the Nick Banks' book yet and only had a quick glance at the Hardcore book I got a year ago. Good Pop, Bad Pop lurks in my Kindle account and Mother, Brother, Lover gathers dust on my bedside cabinet. I think the only Pulp book I did read was Truth & Beauty. A long time ago. 15 years! How the hell is it that old? I had planned to get through my stack of unread books post-retirement, but they remain unread. Still too busy!

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I think Truth and Beauty is more like 21 years old. I'm pretty much the same (though still about 30 years from retirement). I keep meaning to read them but never get round to it.

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Ian wrote:

I think Truth and Beauty is more like 21 years old. I'm pretty much the same (though still about 30 years from retirement). I keep meaning to read them but never get round to it.


 Hell, how old am I?  But still younger than Jarvis biggrin  



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