Managed to get it from bookshop.org - took about a fortnight.
Enjoying it tremendously but my, some of the print is small! I had no idea it was nearly varifocal time. My eyes are feeling ripe and no mistake
Papers not great for the price though. A bit of gloss would have been appreciated. Some of those old, old (ripe, ripe!) posters would have gleamed.
Any collectors on here with rarer posters?
Id pay decent money for a repo. Since I have Webber on me I might try to sneak onto the high res scanner at work. Didnt work out with the Different Class insert images from the CD booklet - that was over-optimistic. AI might be able to tidy things up these days, I suppose
Yeah, I have to say I needed a strong light to read a lot of it! I guess it's a trade-off between accessibility and getting plenty of content in there. Glad he went with the latter overall, although I could've lived without the bits form Luke Turner and that other guy.
-- Edited by Sturdy on Friday 10th of October 2025 10:53:19 AM
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"Yes I saw her in the chip shop / so I said get yer top off"
Yeah, even Jarvis' intro was a bit insubstantial. I guess gushing about your colleague isn't the Sheff way. Mark's text is brilliant though and he's not afraid to give his opinion. I could have lived in tales and images of Pulpland 1991 to 1993.
As well as classic posters, Id love a bound copy of all the Pulp People mags. I nearly bought a haul on eBay circa 2003 for a pittance, but I obviously didnt think it was pittance enough.
Actually, around that time I also turned down an offer of a ticket to see Bowie at the Isle of Wight - I thought Id see him some other time. Had his heart attack a few months later and that was that.
As well as classic posters, Id love a bound copy of all the Pulp People mags. I nearly bought a haul on eBay circa 2003 for a pittance, but I obviously didnt think it was pittance enough.
I'm a bit, or a lot, of a geek for the old artefacts. I think I looked at a Pulp People lot on ebay about 2007, and had the same thought - ah, will come up cheaper later... never seen again. At the same time there was a hand made Pulp demo tape, with text melted / etched onto the case (can't remember what now), big regret not buying that one. I got a lot of my Pulp vinyl pretty cheaply from ebay in the hiatus years (I was a latecomer to Pulp), but never any of the really rare stuff, and that's all very pricey now. There was a copy of 'My Lighthouse' for sale in Steel Wheels (Newcastle) c.2004ish, they were asking £40 which seemed loads at the time, regretted missing that ever since. That's why I spent crazy money on 9 copies of More, which I probably could have got cheaper by waiting, but just, what's it called? FOMO.
Looked at the mylegendarymerch account on insta today - there's a Diff Class poster (from ebay) for £109! Original posters don't come up a lot, so maybe that's reasonable. Had a look at my old Pulp posters (in the attic) a couple of weeks ago. All tatty c.95/96 with pin-holes, blu-tack, and sellotape, but since they're my own pin holes, seems part of the charm. Might get some of them framed, and have them back out, as some of them are gorgeous. Will photograph them one of these days, as they aren't on the wiki or anywhere else I can find.
It'd be great to get some of those huge More promo displays / billboards and things, though I couldn't put them up anywhere. The only More poster I have is the listening party one, which is a bit dinky. Were there any proper posters for sale at the live dates?
Anyone here ordered the paperback from Hat & Beard, and has it arrived yet?
Waiting for mine... accidentally ordered 2, cancelled 1, and hoping I didn't accidentally cancel both. Didn't get the HB, was zoned out late last year, so looking forward to reading this one.
For anyone answering that question, please use spoilers!
I'd rather find out new stuff as a surprise/naturally when reading the bok than expecting Pulp at Christmas 1991 and 1992 coverage to "come alive" and then be disappointed.
I'm picking-up the paperback at Mark's talk in Chiswick, Sunday week. Hopefully see one or two of you there. Giles Acrylic is going so I hope Webbo is ready for a grilling from us...
I asked on IG if anyone had received their paperback copy yet, and got a reply from Hat & Beard:
"The book is on pre-order. Its en route to the US from the printer. Expecting it to arrive very soon and will begin shipping right away."
There must be have been a delay, was due for release 4th of July. Getting a lot of this in recent years - mergers and consolidations all over the place, especially with European LPs CDs, and if there's a small problem, lower volume things get knocked back, in favour of the big selling stuff.
-- Edited by inspirit on Saturday 12th of July 2025 10:49:24 AM
"Out now" my backside! Finally got an email update from Hat & Beard (via music glue) on 16th of July - fully 12 days after the book was supposedly out - to say it has been delayed (no sh*t) until the 18th of July. Pretty lousy customer service. Miserably inefficient: why cause all your customers to worry about missing orders, and why cause yourself a load of nuisance enquiries, instead of just telling people in advance 'it's delayed'. Stuff gets delayed all the time, no big deal, but not telling people what's going on is crap.
Is anyone able to record Marks talk today? Hoping someone asks about whether, with the success of More and the tour, there is any renewed interest in the We Love Life special edition?
-- Edited by simmonel on Sunday 20th of July 2025 06:16:35 PM
I've a long journey home on the train so can report back on the Chiswick book event tonight.
It was an entertaining couple of hours. Mark seemed very comfortable at the end, once he had signed some copies of the paperback he had some dinner but when the last couple of us went to get our books signed he was sat in a booth with hangers-on like myself and the Pulp possee milling around, and his partner was chatting away to fans too.
The host, Duncan, was really good and very friendly. Mark can be hilariously blunt, direct and non-people-pleasing with his answers. Amusingly, and randomly (which I'm grateful for), his disdain for It's A Dirty World was questioned! After repeating the bit in the book as to how long Jarvis "wasted" in the studio over it, I shouted out "It's a great song!". He then revealed that they ACTUALLY REHEARSED IT for, I think, this last tour! Appropriately enough, he wasn't at rehearsals that day...
They've also tried Legendary Girlfriend out but he said it just never sounds right.
Pulp will likely do more live gigs into 2026, he told us.
Asked him afterwards about further material but he said he didn't know. Also put the "20 songs considered for More" to him and whether they were old Pulp or Jarv Is..., he said neither (so I can only assume new group material) but that Jarvis is Jarvis - inference maybe that what gets whittled-down is his decision alone. In terms of demos for the album, he said that they only did a few songs but he didn't really elaborate. Probably felt unimportant. Think he said he missed some of the actual session too. I asked was it done with James Ford too but it wasn't (which makes sense!).
I was conscious of not asking too much niche stuff ie like WLL deluxe (again). I don't know if he really wants to talk about specifics especially if he's a bit tired or maybe would even prefer I don't do my essay reportage on here...
Other exciting news - Mark has a lot of camcorder footage from circa 1993 to '98(?) and it is being digitised with some content possibly to be included in the film that is being made from the live 02 shows this summer. Although it will ostensibly be a concert film, there may be elements between the songs that refer to or tell the story of the song being performed. Not sure if that's separate to the archive buts. But he said no talking heads/new interview footage, apparently.
I asked about his role in the album - he did feel a little ambivalent about the amount of strings on More and maybe questioning how much of his involvement would be on the record but was happy that his contributions were largely included. Diplomatically answered, as the host commented.
I also asked why he had never made a music video for Pulp given his interest in film. Should really have anticipated the answer - music videos being the lowest art form of course! Fair enough.
He preempted one of my other qs (I had about 10 jotted down!) - why the first interview he ever did with Pulp for his fanzine was left out of his book - it's because it is too embarrassing for him. Choice question to Manners, Magnus, Candida and Russell - "Would you go on TOTP if you were asked?".
Giles wanted to know if S:SC will be played at Tramlines. Mark said it would be THE place to play it if anywhere but...no reveal. They have a rehearsal this Weds which he can't make cos of the next book event. I think Giles took comfort in that - ie they'll hardly rehearse unplayed material without him.
The second half was all Q&A for well over half an hour I'd say so I've probably missed other stuff...
He gave me two Cosmic Pig badges when I got my book signed. He either recognised me from Worthing at a book event he did in Jan or he knows my name from here....I really hope it's the former. Good to see barrier angels - Giles, Esther, Sabrina and chat briefly. These things are definitely worth going to so if there's one nearby - he's got more planned later in the year, I recommend it!
A couple of other bits I remembered - PTA was brought up by the host who digs the song despite it being "about a paedophile". Mark, predictably, rather less-so. Dismissed it as something they quickly put together as they needed more material.
Oh and Glastonbury...Pulp approached them to see if they wanted the group to headline. The organisers, presumably Eavis and Daughter, said the best they could offer was the secret set. Mark didn't seem too pleased!
Thanks for the write up, Eamonn. Some interesting bits in there looking forward to the concert film and to think there'll be some old 90s footage woven in is very appealing. I wonder will it be a cinema event like the last one.
Not a definite no. Felt bad for Giles, he's supported the band so much. He just wants to know if he should choose Oasis with his best mate or Pulp for the 61st time...
-- Edited by Eamonn on Wednesday 23rd of July 2025 07:17:40 PM
I had my work pass on so we discussed my work for a little bit, said it looks like Mark is having lots of fun on stage. He said he was wary of turning into Russell! As if.
Just nice to say thank you for all these years of memories, and to many years more.
Just to add Mark did say he had spoken to his contact at Universal about a WLL special edition and did seem enthusiastic about it but seems the label and Jarvis sadly dont feel the same way yet
One thing I forgot is I asked if theyd consider doing shows based around playing one album a la Sparks so we could hear some deep cuts etc. and he said it didnt appeal.
Did I try and ask more questions than anyone else in the room?
Yes, yes I did.
I'll write about it in the next day or so. No massive updates or anything newsworthy, but it was fun and positive.
Would you believe that I was sat next to Gay Bolton? Get your Googles out for that deep, deep Pulp and Webber reference! We did talk, and I have quotes :)
I assume it will be the same one that was shown at the Horse Hospital before the launch of Paul's own book. From memory it was very interesting but as ever with these things and us hardcore, too short!
I was going to a few weeks back after reading it but didn't want to post any spoilers. I haven't done a forensic page by page comparison but there were enough new bits and bobs to keep me entertained. There were a few times where I thought "Oh...really? Did I read that bit in the hardback 6 or 9 months ago...?!"
I was pleasantly surprised that he seemed to go back over the whole text and add new thoughts and memories here and there. There's a few more flyers and ephemera...nothing "gold" in terms of new, old photographs, from what I recall... And of course there was a new chapter on the new era and some interesting thoughts on the recording process for More.
The one thing I can remember not having heard/read before... in 2011/12 when Pulp were on their first lap of honour, it was Mark who one day in a rehearsal or soundcheck between shows, started playing the riff of After You out of the blue! I think some of the band joined in and the rest, I guess, is history. So thank you Mark, you legend!
Whether the book is worth buying a second time is hard to say. I'm an absolute sucker for music boxsets and books especially related to the musicians I love so I would have eventually snapped-up the second edition. The fact I got to buy it and meet him again at one of his promo events made it an easier sell.
The quality of the paper isn't amazing but I assume they've done this to keep the price at a much more digestible RRP than the hardback. Which, in fairness to Mark, he wasn't keen on charging the premium price on the first edition and he didn't have to add extra content a second time round - yes, some of us hardcore will double-dip regardless but I imagine that's a small number so I don't see it as taking advantage. He's clearly spent a lot of time on this project.
I'm so glad he's finally had some time in the spotlight this past year and even better, that he seems to be enjoying it based on all these book-events he continues to do.
-- Edited by Eamonn on Monday 8th of September 2025 08:41:14 PM
Ah, come to Dublin, Mark, would ya! Or better still somewhere like Kildare. Richard Hawley is in Dublin Oct 22nd. Come on over! I'd feckin pay him myself (well, depending on the price. Cost of living crisis and all that!). He's bringing his guitar with him apparently. Now will this prove Mark is the other singer in the band. Will he sing a tune. Jarvis said in a Beyond the Pale interview that he only found out in recent years that there was another singer in the band.
Erm.... It very clearly states at the Crookes social club site that ticket sale includes a copy of the book..
You're not wrong, and neither am I! :
I only saw the link from Marks post: https://linktr.ee/imwithpulp which links to a booking page that is ticket only: https://novelsheffield.com/products/were-with-pulp-are-you-an-evening-with-pulps-mark-weber-tues-4th-nov-ticket-only
The Crookes Club links directly to a separate link which does include the book (I notice now this is also linked at the bottom of the ticket only page) https://novelsheffield.com/products/were-with-pulp-are-you-an-evening-with-pulps-mark-weber-tues-4th-nov-includes-book
I wasn't there and would have eaten-up hearing S:SC and Miners Strike live but I can see why a general crowd would struggle with those. It's 15 minutes of music they haven't heard before at a mid-tempo.
-- Edited by Eamonn on Sunday 2nd of November 2025 02:09:21 PM
I wasn't there and would have eaten-up hearing S:SC and Miners Strike live but I can see why a general crowd would struggle with those. It's 15 minutes of music they haven't heard before at a mid-tempo.
-- Edited by Eamonn on Sunday 2nd of November 2025 02:09:21 PM
There was a weird glitch during the opening of Spike Island that Mark seemed perturbed by. If you watch the video of the song you can hear it clearly. I thought Tramlines was pretty great but I did think the same as you re. S:SC and Miners. I loved hearing Miners but they could have played 2 other songs in place of S:SC.
Lipgloss and Help The Aged should be part of the core festival setlists imo. They're both uptempo and pretty well-known. Pulp's first chart entry (not Top 40 but not far off) and their last top ten.
I know the rhythm of Lipgloss causes issues and Jarvis needs the crowd to do the "Funny how it all falls away" line in HTA but so what? Adds to the sense of occasion.
At least OU has finally had a second life. If something is relatively quick and catchy, a general crowd will lap it up especially if it's buttressed by hits that they do recognise.
Lipgloss and Help The Aged should be part of the core festival setlists imo. They're both uptempo and pretty well-known. Pulp's first chart entry (not Top 40 but not far off) and their last top ten.
I know the rhythm of Lipgloss causes issues and Jarvis needs the crowd to do the "Funny how it all falls away" line in HTA but so what? Adds to the sense of occasion.
At least OU has finally had a second life. If something is relatively quick and catchy, a general crowd will lap it up especially if it's buttressed by hits that they do recognise.
Agreed. I would have loved to have heard Lipgloss and OU at least. OU was sound checked.
I went to Mark's book tour event in Nottingham last night. An enjoyable evening. Lots of people turned up but it wasn't quite sold out.
Mark was his usual self, giving very honest answers, but also seemed keen to steer the conversation away from anything more negative. No major surprises or new information in the conversation or Q&A.
Mark briefly attempted to recall Pulp's first Nottingham show at the Barracuda in 1987. It sounded like a lot of shows at that time: they spent hours wrapping the stage in tin foil and then only a handful of people turned up. He remembered it was a small venue - little more than a bar. That sounds correct because I know the location and there is a ****tail bar there today.
The highlight was the five videos played. I've described them in spoiler tags below, because I know there are more dates coming up, and those going might want a surprise. He mentioned the selection varied at each event, so I'd be interested to know what else was included on other nights
Spoiler
1. The Will to Power at Chesterfield Arts Centre (January 1986). A wonderful bit of footage with Russell on vocals and Jarvis in the wheelchair. It was VHS quality so a bit grainy and not great sound but still very watchable. The camera panned around giving clear views of all the band members. I hope more of this pops up in future (but I'm not hopeful).
2. 'Access All Areas'. About 20 minutes of video documenting the 1993 Razzmatazz Tour with Saint Etienne. There was live footage with excerpts of several songs, plus various stuff, including, backstage with both Pulp and Saint Etienne, in the transit van, arriving in Leicester Square at 5am, on a beach, and so on. Some material from this was used in the Home Movies section of the Hits DVD. Mark said he had edited it down, so it's unclear how long the original is. The sound quality was sometimes poor (the concert footage was better) which is perhaps why this hasn't been shown before. Still it was a really good snapshot of the band at that time. There were credits at the end which I don't fully recall. It was filmed by Mark, Mike Timm, and maybe others. Edited by Mark.
3. TV Madness same as on the Hits DVD
4. A avant garde edit of Common People recorded at the Edinburgh Hogmanay show. I don't recall the details. This was my least favourite of the videos.
5. A production rehearsal of Glory Days. I liked the way Jarvis still gave his usual long introduction even when playing to an empty arena.
-- Edited by Will on Tuesday 4th of November 2025 11:24:30 AM
-- Edited by Will on Wednesday 5th of November 2025 10:59:01 AM
I wasn't there and would have eaten-up hearing S:SC and Miners Strike live but I can see why a general crowd would struggle with those. It's 15 minutes of music they haven't heard before at a mid-tempo.
-- Edited by Eamonn on Sunday 2nd of November 2025 02:09:21 PM
Sex City went down really well as far as I could tell! The crowd seemed into it far beyond barrier.
There was a wobble during Spike Island, though - there was a beat's disconnection going into the first chorus. I didn't think it was flat per se and I hope it hasn't discouraged the band from showcasing more deep cuts though!!
-- Edited by lipglossed on Tuesday 4th of November 2025 02:39:09 PM
I think regular deep cuts might only be possible if they scale down to small indoor shows. Mark seems keen but the other lad exists to shout and point.
Did Mark recognise you from gigs way, way, way back in the days of yore where you and he were the only ones bothered about documenting the occasion, Jason ?!
Nah...
As i walked in he was chatting with the merch stand guy..
I did say hello and introduce myself..
It's at least 30 years since our last meeting so I'm not rattled or or feeling ignored..
It was fun but a bit disappointed about the videos. Mark is very honest and very approachable. Best bit for me was when he described Russell's flat on Division St.
Sorry if I raised false hope over the videos, I assumed all the dates would follow the same format. Looking at descriptions for the two talks still to happen, it appears there will be videos in Swansea, but probably not at Portsmouth.
In Nottingham the talk took place in a cinema and Mark could play the videos directly from his laptop on to the big screen. Before the first video played he specifically asked the audience not to film on their phones, so I doubt anything will leak out.
I've been thinking what else was said -
I think this has been mentioned here before but at one point Mark mentioned they had rehearsed Have You Seen Her Lately? quite a lot but Jarvis hadn't been persuaded to add it to the setlist. Same for Bad Cover Version which Mark said was his favourite single (and not just because he's on the cover).
Someone asked who his favourite ex-band member is. He thought quite carefully and answered Magnus Doyle. He mentioned Magnus was a bit weird and the host asked whether he was similar to Russell. He then gave a good answer explaining how they were quite different. He mentioned Magnus disappeared after he left the band and they later found out he had gone to India.
I thought the shadow of Russell loomed large over the talk but Mark was at the mercy of a first time host and interviewer. I did ask if we would be hearing the WLL sessions and he promised to ask Jarvis. Captain Sleep got a name check and he talked about that Pulp/non Pulp Saturday afternoon early 87 performance art gig shere Jarvis told the story of the Devil coming to Sheffield.
Another interview with Mark here. Most interesting to note - the Disco 2000 demo, then called "Gloria", contains the main riff being played on the synth. Dismissed by the band for being too "weedy" until Mark translated it to his guitar, added some distortion and a hit was born...
Weedy or not, a real shame the DC30 deluxe didn't give us the chance to hear it...
Mark also says that Chris Thomas earns more from sales of Different Class than the band do!
Not a joke, the band referred to it as Gloria at the time of the demo session, because of the likeness to the Tozzi song & Laura Brannigan cover.
It probably sounded even more like it on the synth so translating it to the guitar and getting rid of any weediness through distortion was a good move.
Would still love to hear its original studio debut though and see what changed on the final version.
Another date for Mark's interrupted book tour (busy man):
" You'll find me at @thecrescentyork for @yorklitfest on Tuesday 17 March 2026, kick off at 7pm. This is the only "I'm With Pulp, Are You?" book event planned for the foreseeable, so please come along if you've any burning questions. "
I'm very glad to be going to this, and grateful that Mr. Webber has been able to fit in a date in York. Will take my copy along, in hopes he'll have time for signing.
The Crescent is a nice venue (it's a 250 capacity social club), been to gigs there, my favourite York venue since losing Fibbers, proper Fibbers, more than 10 years ago (lovely place, sad loss). I wonder if it'll be a standing event? Might start having to bring one of those toff-shooting sticks to ease my aged feet. At least at gigs you can get away with shuffling about, in my woeful version of dancing, but I expect I will be an irritating presence shuffling about whilst folk are trying to concentrate on Mark.