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I thought Sylvia was really annoying! Yes they clearly got on well but all she did was ask about Jarvis Jarvis Jarvis, hardly anything about him. But Nick was great.

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Yeah, that is true actually. But Nick comes across as not bring too phased by the whole thing. Whereas the rest ofnthe group probably were!

Where were you sitting, you should have said Hello - if you'd recognised one of us!

 

 



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It was Party Hard. Mark's guitar was out of tune for some reason and he and the tech were frantically trying to get it working for a couple of minutes.

On that subject, Mark has experience as somewhat of an orator in his other career as a film curator/festival programmer and has conducted many lectures and interviews over the years. On the Pulp side of things there was an interview with him in Mexico in 2014 (it should still be up on YouTube I think) doing a q and about LDaS. Candida can also be quite eloquent when she gets an opportunity to.

I think when Pulp are interviewed as a whole, Jarvis has a tendancy to dominate the conversation, and indeed the interviewers do tend to direct their question towards him as the lead singer. This was lampshades in an interview at the Brat awards in 1996 which I think is also doing the rounds on YouTube.

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Very excited for tomorrow night. 



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Haven't read the book yet but went to the show in Bristol last night and Nick told a pretty unpleasant story about Jarvis that made a really awkward atmosphere!

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Oh aye?

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Is this the same as the dark whispers on Twitter?

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And what are they...?

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twitter.com/DILFBAlT/status/1711834992861446427

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Well that's a blessed relief...

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So it's one of thoise things people like to hype up but won't actually say? Grand.

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Looks like it, I'm afraid.

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Some weird responses! I'm happy to recount what Nick said.

Basically when Pulp played in Japan at the height of their popularity, they had this huge (female) fan that would follow them around and stand in front of Jarvis every night. Jarvis deemed her so unattractive that when he'd look into the crowd and see her, he'd get put off. After a while, the band/Jarvis told her that she had to stand at the sound desk.

To be honest, the way Nick recounted the story didn't make him look great either. It's like he expected everyone to laugh but it went silent with some noises of disapproval. The host had to defuse the situation a bit.

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Violin Thing wrote:

So it's one of thoise things people like to hype up but won't actually say? Grand.

 Oh wise up.



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timahall wrote:
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So it's one of thoise things people like to hype up but won't actually say? Grand.

 Oh wise up.

Sorry pal, I'm autistic and don't always get the nuance. Only messing. 



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timahall wrote:

Some weird responses! I'm happy to recount what Nick said.

Basically when Pulp played in Japan at the height of their popularity, they had this huge (female) fan that would follow them around and stand in front of Jarvis every night. Jarvis deemed her so unattractive that when he'd look into the crowd and see her, he'd get put off. After a while, the band/Jarvis told her that she had to stand at the sound desk.

To be honest, the way Nick recounted the story didn't make him look great either. It's like he expected everyone to laugh but it went silent with some noises of disapproval. The host had to defuse the situation a bit.

 

So much for sticking up for the Mis-shapes, eh? 

All this stuff I keep reading about, regarding the book, and things kind of making me depressed about Jarvis.  Oh well. I know not every band, or person, is perfect, and this stuff is far far less bad than compared to other bands out there, but still. :(



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Violin Thing wrote:
timahall wrote:
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So it's one of thoise things people like to hype up but won't actually say? Grand.

 Oh wise up.

Sorry pal, I'm autistic and don't always get the nuance. Only messing. 

 No worries, I was probably being a tad too touchy.



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TBH I went off Jarvis when the whole "Reigate" thing came out in 1996. Both of the women involved were called Sarah, and I took that personally.

 

 



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timahall wrote:

Some weird responses! I'm happy to recount what Nick said.

Basically when Pulp played in Japan at the height of their popularity, they had this huge (female) fan that would follow them around and stand in front of Jarvis every night. Jarvis deemed her so unattractive that when he'd look into the crowd and see her, he'd get put off. After a while, the band/Jarvis told her that she had to stand at the sound desk.

To be honest, the way Nick recounted the story didn't make him look great either. It's like he expected everyone to laugh but it went silent with some noises of disapproval. The host had to defuse the situation a bit.

 Umm. Not gonna act shocked/clutch pearls even, but oh dear



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heatherwealthy wrote:
timahall wrote:

Some weird responses! I'm happy to recount what Nick said.

Basically when Pulp played in Japan at the height of their popularity, they had this huge (female) fan that would follow them around and stand in front of Jarvis every night. Jarvis deemed her so unattractive that when he'd look into the crowd and see her, he'd get put off. After a while, the band/Jarvis told her that she had to stand at the sound desk.

To be honest, the way Nick recounted the story didn't make him look great either. It's like he expected everyone to laugh but it went silent with some noises of disapproval. The host had to defuse the situation a bit.

 Umm. Not gonna act shocked/clutch pearls even, but oh dear

 Agreed, pretty fucking nasty from Jarvis.

 

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TBH I went off Jarvis when the whole "Reigate" thing came out in 1996. Both of the women involved were called Sarah, and I took that personally.

 

 

 Oh dear, what happened in Reigate?

 

The story I've heard - the one being referred to upthread - might be familiar. It's the archived interview one of Jarvis's exes - his makeup artist, called Sarah - gave to the News of the World. He two-timed her, basically.

FWIW I don't think it's particularly surprising or new even that Jarvis was a prize prick. (He's our prize prick, I suppose?) I did listen to 'Someone Like the Moon' earlier today, heard it in a pretty different light. Although take tabloids with a pinch of salt etc.

EDIT - oh this IS the Reigate incident, it's her surname! biggrinbiggrinbiggrin



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lipglossed wrote:
heatherwealthy wrote:
timahall wrote:

Some weird responses! I'm happy to recount what Nick said.

Basically when Pulp played in Japan at the height of their popularity, they had this huge (female) fan that would follow them around and stand in front of Jarvis every night. Jarvis deemed her so unattractive that when he'd look into the crowd and see her, he'd get put off. After a while, the band/Jarvis told her that she had to stand at the sound desk.

To be honest, the way Nick recounted the story didn't make him look great either. It's like he expected everyone to laugh but it went silent with some noises of disapproval. The host had to defuse the situation a bit.

 Umm. Not gonna act shocked/clutch pearls even, but oh dear

 Agreed, pretty fucking nasty from Jarvis.

 

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TBH I went off Jarvis when the whole "Reigate" thing came out in 1996. Both of the women involved were called Sarah, and I took that personally.

 

 

 Oh dear, what happened in Reigate?

 

The story I've heard - the one being referred to upthread - might be familiar. It's the archived interview one of Jarvis's exes - his makeup artist, called Sarah - gave to the News of the World. He two-timed her, basically.

FWIW I don't think it's particularly surprising or new even that Jarvis was a prize prick. (He's our prize prick, I suppose?) I did listen to 'Someone Like the Moon' earlier today, heard it in a pretty different light. Although take tabloids with a pinch of salt etc.

EDIT - oh this IS the Reigate incident, it's her surname! biggrinbiggrinbiggrin



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https://members.tripod.com/~gr8_buttox/news_of_the_world

 

Sarah Reigate's story that was published in '96.

 

 



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SarahAWilson wrote:

TBH I went off Jarvis when the whole "Reigate" thing came out in 1996. Both of the women involved were called Sarah, and I took that personally.

 

 

 

https://members.tripod.com/~gr8_buttox/news_of_the_world

 

I remember seeing this a few yrs ago. I would almost say I'd take any story from or sold to a tabloid with a grain of salt, though. Bet half was exaggerated or made up for $$$. 



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Some of those quotes from "Sarah" read like a parody.

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Oh is it about that?
Yeah he doesn't come out of it particularly well, but you know, this is the man who wrote Acrylic Afternoons and Pencil Skirt and a number of other songs we could list

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Oh is it about that?
Yeah he doesn't come out of it particularly well, but you know, this is the man who wrote Acrylic Afternoons and Pencil Skirt and a number of other songs we could list

 

But a person's songs don't always reflect their own experiences...its like being an actor. He'd said he'd typically write from others' perspectives. So, the Sarah thing might definitely be lots of exaggeration involved. He never denied the affair, though, and was very pissed with the newspaper that published it. Forgot his commentary, but some are in interviews I've read. 

The one major part that screams exaggerated was the part about him telling her about the solar system and her taking notes, that whole cheesy scene. confuse



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