That's a hell of a shock. I'd not heard anything. There's a post on his own Insta now from Katie which says he'd been in hospital for a few months. Such sad news.
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6Music just mentioned it in their news bulletin. Easy to take offence at these times when none is meant but the news presenter mispronounced his surname as Mackay in a tone lacking the grave manner usually reserved for death notices.
His Different Class cut-out dusted down and given its own spot on the stage through this summer's reunion, plus regular tributes from the mic by Jarvis you'd imagine.
Pulp's first reunion a decade ago was sparked by the untimely passing of Tim McCall, the guitarist in Jarvis' solo band of which Steve was of course the bassist. Listening to Hawley talking to Lauren Laverne recently, it's clear the band are keenly aware of their mortality and so every time they get together is a celebration, even moreso now.
I can't believe it.. I hope Tricia is ok (not sure if she still pops in here or not)
I've been talking to her over twitter. She is understandably pretty shaken up. she doesn't post on here much but you can reach her on twitter @triciathetree and send her some hugs
Steve Mackey: a reserved, artistic man who let his bass do the talking
Pulps bass guitarist has died, aged 56. Will Hodgkinson pays tribute to the musician, producer and DJ whose intelligence and sense of adventure enriched the lives of those around him
In 2011 Steve Mackey turned up with Jarvis Cocker, his fellow Sheffield native and bandmate in Pulp, to do a late-night Saturday DJ slot at a backstage bar at Glastonbury festival. It was one of those legendary rainy years, the site a sea of mud and cagoules, and in true Glastonbury fashion there were plenty of people who had struggled to follow the key rule of pacing yourself. It did not make for a pretty sight. Amid this morass Mackey was a lone figure of dignity and cleanliness: a handsome middle-aged man in a well-cut shirt, playing icy Human League and Kraftwerk classics as people slid about on the soaking wet tarpaulin dancefloor before him. He looked like someone who knew how to live and take care of himself, which makes his death at just 56 all the more shocking.
While Cocker remains the charismatic star of Pulp, Mackey was his ideal foil, a reserved, artistic man who was content to let his bass guitar playing in the band alongside his songwriting and production for other artists do the talking. I met him twice, first in an interview and then at that Glastonbury. Unlike a lot of reasonably famous musicians, especially ones from Nineties Britpop bands, who all too often mistake brashness and arrogance for impressiveness, Mackey was unfailingly polite
I couldn't process this yesterday. Kept reading more posts and news articles and even listened to Radio 6 all evening to various news bulletins and tributes and it was like some sort of horrible dream. I went on Twitter in the afternoon and saw Steve trending at number 2. I was obviously startled but not initially alarmed until I clicked on it! I always assumed he was the healthiest of all of them, all that running. If he was in hospital for 3 months, presumably he already knew he was ill when he didn't commit to the tour.
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Been belting out THE PARK IS MINE and FEELINGCALLEDLIVE and a few tears as SM walked out. Did Parkrun this morning and I thought this is for you Steve - I realise thats weird - he is a stranger... Its very strange & very sad. I didnt have older brothers or sisters to tell me about 'cool' bands but somehow miraculously Pulp ended up on the radio that day and I was gone. We all have our 'origin' story. I'm a bit older these days - and its not like my interests have diverted but the world is a different place. They taught me everything really - informed me on so many levels about art and music and films. I always loved this photo from WLL where SM is cuddling a koala. Growing up in a country where they weren't massive I thought well that makes me feel connected. Just rambling but lots of hugs to everyone on the forum.
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Great tribute from Will Butler in The Guardian. I particularly like:
"He was also extremely handsome. In general I dont support making a persons beauty a symbol of any sort of worth... his handsomeness really seemed like it was of a piece with the rest of his work."
I think Steve knew that being a great musician was 50% talent and 50% style!
I haven't seen Florence Welch say anything about Stefe yet but I suspect she would be just as lovely about him - everyone seems to be, in a genuine way. Just seems that he was one of life's good guys. Really wish I had met him (he and Candida were the remaining ones on my 'To Pulp' list)
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I haven't seen Florence Welch say anything about Stefe yet but I suspect she would be just as lovely about him - everyone seems to be, in a genuine way. Just seems that he was one of life's good guys. Really wish I had met him (he and Candida were the remaining ones on my 'To Pulp' list)
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To my shame it's only now that I'm realising how much work he's done with other artists in the past couple of decades, and how well thought of he was. Knew about MIA but hadn't appreciated what a big role he had in records by Arcade Fire, Florence, etc etc. The tributes that have come in from all directions, including people you wouldn't necessarily expect (Sleaford Mods, Belle & Sebastian, Pet Shop Boys), say a lot.
He's the only modern day member of Pulp I never met. Wish I had.
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The Belle and Sebastian one is not that surprising, since both Steve and Jarvis did a remix for Looper which at the time was a side project for B&S founder Stuart David, but the Pet Shop Boys really through me for a loop.
Neil Tennant has said before that Disco 2000 was a song he wishes the PSB had written and at the time he was worried about Jarvis usurping him as the thinking person's popstar. He also listed This Is Hardcore in one of his favourite records of '98 so there's clearly a lot of admiration there.
Steve did produce what I long considered my favourite album of the '00s - Someone To Drive You Home by The Long Blondes, which unfortunately has been soiled over the past year due to the man who wrote it being accused of rape and sexual abuse.
Neil Tennant has said before that Disco 2000 was a song he wishes the PSB had written and at the time he was worried about Jarvis usurping him as the thinking person's popstar. He also listed This Is Hardcore in one of his favourite records of '98 so there's clearly a lot of admiration there.
Didn't know that. I actually always heard a bit of an It's a Sin influence in I Spy. Anyway, good to see all these renowned people offering condolences.
Does anyone think that Pulp might decide to call it quits and cancel the tour? I know Steve wasn't going to be involved but this must have knocked them for six. Especially Jarvis - they were inseparable for large parts of the last 30 years, through academia, music career and socially (ie Jarvis being best man at Steve's wedding in 2009) etc. It must feel like he's lost a brother...
They haven't been announced for Glasto, I just wonder if this is a hint at an announcement in due course once they've started to come to terms with the awful news.
I'd be surprised if they did but only because they've given commitments to promoters, venues and fans. It would be sad if they don't feel like doing it but carry-on for the people they've made agreements with.
It seems to me that Steve's health may very well have been the catalyst that made them come back together and decide to do it one last time. I suspect that they were expecting it so they won't consider cancelling.
When you really listen to the bass on Pulp tracks, you really begin to appreciate how much of a good player he was. After You will always be one of my favourite basslines in general because of him. RIP Steve
Yeah, you can definitely hear a difference when it gets to Separations IMO. He didn't tend to play a lot of fancy stuff but he had this confident, driving style that gave it all a bit of a lift. I think he was an important part of what made Pulp danceable from point onward - not just the influences he brought into the band (acid house etc) but the way he actually played.
Case in point, that soundcheck where you can hear him just playing the bassline to She's a Lady for a bit. You can almost dance to that on its own!
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Yeah, you can definitely hear a difference when it gets to Separations IMO. He didn't tend to play a lot of fancy stuff but he had this confident, driving style that gave it all a bit of a lift. I think he was an important part of what made Pulp danceable from point onward - not just the influences he brought into the band (acid house etc) but the way he actually played.
Case in point, that soundcheck where you can hear him just playing the bassline to She's a Lady for a bit. You can almost dance to that on its own!
Steve and Nick are the yin to the yang of the others. Both are more rock school than art school. Despite the occasional flash of brilliance prior to Separations, for me Pulp started in 1989.
Very much looking forward to puffins. Likely to go up to my mum's for a few days. I think she is quite keen to see puffins as well, but will go home on the bus as she isn't going to hang around all evening waiting for us to emerge.
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There's a nice little highlights reel on his Instagram, posted today.
I think the funeral was yesterday.
Also, I listened to Love Is Blind this week for the first time in ages. I forgot how prominent Steve's bass is in that song, both rhythmically and melodically. As his first appearance on a Pulp record, he certainly announced his arrival and I'm not sure any other recorded song afterwards tops it in terms of his involvement.
There's a nice little highlights reel on his Instagram, posted today.
I think the funeral was yesterday.
Also, I listened to Love Is Blind this week for the first time in ages. I forgot how prominent Steve's bass is in that song, both rhythmically and melodically. As his first appearance on a Pulp record, he certainly announced his arrival and I'm not sure any other recorded song afterwards tops it in terms of his involvement.
"A brass band and 25 speakers boomed out funk hits as a host of stars followed his coffin carried on a vintage Land Rover. The Joubert Singers 1982 hit Stand On The Word rang out as the celebs gathered at Highgate Cemetery to pay their respects."
Peter Crouch, Abbey Clancy, Noel Gallagher, Patsy Kensit, Daisy Lowe, Courtney Love and Marc Jacobs were among those in attendance.
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That article is in rather bad taste though isn't it? All the celebrity trainspotting and barely a thing to say about the man, and then that headline: "STAR.I.P." Gross.
I am not from uk. I know the sun and daily mail has horrible reputation, but I didnt it would be THIS bad! The way they covered it has zero respect. They are gossiping about celebrities as if its a concert.
I am not from uk. I know the sun and daily mail has horrible reputation, but I didnt it would be THIS bad! The way they covered it has zero respect. They are gossiping about celebrities as if its a concert.
That seems to be the entire point of the existence of these rags. And they are obsessed with giving everyone's ages as well, though likely a year or two out for good measure. It's even possible there were celebrities there not wearing makeup, can you imagine ... </sarcasm>. Fe-mail seems to exist to make women judge other women for being fat. The headlines down the side are called the "Sidebar of Shame" here. I did look to see if there were any other reports and only came up with the Daily Heil and syndications of it, so didn't bother to post that. They obviously only got near Peter Crouch, there's endless pictures of him, so at least it's good they didn't manage to be any more invasive than that.
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I had just bought a jumper, a yellow one. When I saw it on the hanger, it reminded me of this photo of Steve (one of my favourite shots of the band), so I snaffled it.
And then I paid for it, walked outside with my partner, got on the bus, and checked my phone.
It was an absolutely sickening shock, he always seemed so young and healthy. He is, to be honest, my favourite member - I mean everyone loves Jarvis, but Steve was the cool one; he legitimised Cocker and co.'s nerdiness by simply standing there with his bass and that swoop of hair. And he did much more than that. So very much more.
I don't think I'll ever look at a photo of Pulp and see Steve, and think 'oh he's dead now', because that seems so incredibly perverse... as far as I'm concerned, he's there. Hopefully trotting about in the Andes, but also, generally. He's still part of Pulp, if that makes sense. It's impossible to separate them, and why would you want to?
Not the only thing that day either. We actually kept wandering and went into another charity shop in the afternoon, an Oxfam, and after we stepped out onto the street, my partner presented me with Pulp - The Illustrated Story, Paul Lester's book. Turns out they had a copy in the Oxfam and she surreptitiously got it for me. So, that was very touching.
Katie just put up on instagram that he died from a 4th AVM and his organs have saved 3 people - poor Steve, I'm still so sad about it!
Gosh, that's desperately unlucky. AVM's aren't usually fatal. To have four of the buggers...
Poor Steve.
I'd never heard of this, so I just Googled it - does the 4 relate to the severity rather than a 4th event?? Sounds horrendously unlucky whatever, even more so for someone who was so fit and healthy.
If anyone wants to visit the good lad, you can find him in the West side of Highgate Cemetary, in a fairly prominent location in "The Meadow", roughly halfway between Jean Simmons and George Michael. Also very near Ian Holm and Bob Hoskins.
If anyone wants to visit the good lad, you can find him in the West side of Highgate Cemetary, in a fairly prominent location in "The Meadow", roughly halfway between Jean Simmons and George Michael. Also very near Ian Holm and Bob Hoskins.
Would it be tasteless to organise something for November 10th? Like a few of us lot (probably the London based) going up there with a few little tributes ie flowers and stuff.
Not a bad idea - if memory serves, access to parts of the cemetery is restricted in the winter months so that might be something to watch out for.
I think this thread should always be pinned to the top, regardless
This probably belongs in the dreams thread but I had one the other night of Pulp playing one of their summer shows and Jarvis not addressing Steve's death until the encore, spending a good five minutes saying how great he was, and his talent and intelligence was one thing but his being humble and never projecting his own thoughts onto other people when he had every reason to, given how successful he was in everything he did, was one of his most admirable traits.
And the stage was all darkly lit during this eulogy apart from a spotlight being shone on Steve's Different Class cut-out at the front of the stage. Jarvis then dedicates the last song to Steve, just holding back the tears and the opening strains of Bar Italia begin...
I had been for a run to Finsbury Park earlier in the day and thinking about the Pulp concert there so that probably triggered it. A lot of the grass was destroyed a couple of weeks ago in some "mud challenge" that hundreds of people took part in, but the grass is already growing back quite well in most parts.
This probably belongs in the dreams thread but I had one the other night of Pulp playing one of their summer shows and Jarvis not addressing Steve's death until the encore, spending a good five minutes saying how great he was, and his talent and intelligence was one thing but his being humble and never projecting his own thoughts onto other people when he had every reason to, given how successful he was in everything he did, was one of his most admirable traits.
And the stage was all darkly lit during this eulogy apart from a spotlight being shone on Steve's Different Class cut-out at the front of the stage. Jarvis then dedicates the last song to Steve, just holding back the tears and the opening strains of Bar Italia begin...
This has made me very emotional. It would be a pretty much perfect tribute, and the way you describe it is very vivid too.
I think Finsbury Park has the potential to be a very emotionally intense event, I'll be going to TRNSMT but hope those of you who'll be off to north London have a good time... they'll certainly be remembering Steve.
Hope his cut-out is dusted-off, like you said. Funny, it's still weird him being gone; I was watching a YouTube video of Like A Friend live at Glasto this morning, watching Steve run his fingers down that bassline and thinking I'd see him this summer. I think the Highgate thing is a nice idea. Any way of paying a tribute, really.
I do feel for whoever will play bass live, obviously it's a huge honour but also quite emotionally difficult, I would reckon.
I do feel for whoever will play bass live, obviously it's a huge honour but also quite emotionally difficult, I would reckon.
Just a wild thought - does anyone know anything much about Marley? It says in this interview that he is a musician. It's from 2015, which is half a lifetime ago for someone that age - it seems a bit grumpy but then being interviewed on the grounds of having a famous dad might be quite annoying at that age. There have been other examples of sons of musicians, like John Bonham's son, sitting in for their dads.
I just wonder, would Steve's birthday be a time when family might want to be visiting the cemetery? Wouldn't want to intrude on that, though on the other hand it might be really gratifying for them to know how much he was loved, so long as it didn't interfere with their own commemoration.
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I do feel for whoever will play bass live, obviously it's a huge honour but also quite emotionally difficult, I would reckon.
Just a wild thought - does anyone know anything much about Marley? It says in this interview that he is a musician. It's from 2015, which is half a lifetime ago for someone that age - it seems a bit grumpy but then being interviewed on the grounds of having a famous dad might be quite annoying at that age. There have been other examples of sons of musicians, like John Bonham's son, sitting in for their dads.
I just wonder, would Steve's birthday be a time when family might want to be visiting the cemetery? Wouldn't want to intrude on that, though on the other hand it might be really gratifying for them to know how much he was loved, so long as it didn't interfere with their own commemoration.
Might depend on the time of day? I mean, there's plenty of hours, so it would depend on if we timed it right. You raise a good point, though - it wouldn't be good to intrude.
Finsbury Park might also be a good time to do it - not too far from Highgate either.
So hideously tragic and unfortunate. He had three different AVM brain bleeds, was healing in hospital... and then suffered a fatal fourth. Unlucky doesn't begin to cover it.
I just feel so sorry for him.
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