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Like they did with "After You" or even write a new one together? I think this would be a wonderful idea. Or rerecord a completely unheard of demo they have in their vaults. 



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I doubt it. Besides After You came after the last reunion.

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If this is, as it seems, the final curtain, it wouldnt surprise me at all if they released something or other at the end to say goodbye. But itd very unlikely be new material. A re-recording of one of the unreleased demos like before. Cuckoo? Something happy-but-sad anyway. But equally, I wouldnt be at all surprised if they didnt

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I'd like to think when Jarvis is too old to prance about on stage, they could still tour smaller venues with semi-acoustic sets drawing on the non-anthems and less electronic-driven tracks.

Imagine them coming to a playhouse near you, playing "The Pulp Songbook" with Jarvis' in-between song chat focusing on stories about how the songs came to be or what they remind him of.

They could play plenty of songs from both It and We Love Life in their natural form and stripped-down versions of songs from other eras well into their 70s if they wanted to!

To be honest, I'd take this type of concert now instead of the festival-headlining reunions (excited as I am for the summer to see them). But shows akin to their little 1999 concerts in Edinburgh, Venice and Cork would be a real treat to see.



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Imagine them coming to a playhouse near you, playing "The Pulp Songbook" with Jarvis' in-between song chat focusing on stories about how the songs came to be or what they remind him of.

They could play plenty of songs from both It and We Love Life in their natural form and stripped-down versions of songs from other eras well into their 70s if they wanted to!

To be honest, I'd take this type of concert now instead of the festival-headlining reunions (excited as I am for the summer to see them). But shows akin to their little 1999 concerts in Edinburgh, Venice and Cork would be a real treat to see.


Many years ago (1995), Ray Davies did something like this. It was a superb show at Bloomsbury Theatre going back over his career with an accompanying bassist.  I thought he was pretty old back then yet he was only 51.

I would be first in the queue for something similar from Jarvis in the next few years.  Sounds perfect.



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Yeah, it's probably something that Jarvis would be more likely to do with one or two musicians and play all sorts of things, solo/covers/Pulp.

He did something similar in 2009 pulpwiki.net/Jarvis/16April2009ManchesterRoyalNorthernCollegeOfMusicManchester

But I'd love Pulp to do it.

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Sounds like a good idea. I don't think we will get any new material before the tour but maybe after. I know it's years ago now but I vaguely remember Jarvis saying that he was pleased by the reception that "After You" received.

A new album would be fantastic but I'd settle for re-recordings of the album's worth of songs that were lost in 1999-2001.

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I wouldn't be suprised if they record something 'Jarv Is' style at some of the shows. It's a great way to get material down for a band that dislike being in the studio. Nothing new. Maybe another 1999/2000 outtake.



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I am still assuming those Abbey Road remasters Steve confirmed exist will get released before the tour?

I keep waiting for an announcement of a Half-Speed master of Different Class. Probably the only way they'll get me to shell out for my 4th copy of that record.

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Ooh yeah, half-speed cut would certainly make up for the muddy sounding copy Ive loved all these years. Want to choose my own cover though! Candida and the dog, or the couple snogging on the grass, for sure



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If Jarvis hadn't just done his own recording of 'Cuckoo Song', I'd have said that it was a very strong contender for a single release after the new shows ŕ la 'After You', but now I'm not so sure. 'The Quiet Revolution', perhaps? It's the only other one from the 99/00 demos jumping out at me right now. Then again, maybe one of the demos we've never heard before - that'd be exciting.

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If Jarvis hadn't just done his own recording of 'Cuckoo Song', I'd have said that it was a very strong contender for a single release after the new shows ŕ la 'After You', but now I'm not so sure. 'The Quiet Revolution', perhaps? It's the only other one from the 99/00 demos jumping out at me right now. Then again, maybe one of the demos we've never heard before - that'd be exciting.


 

Well the Jarvis cuckoo version is half spoken, so Pulp could do it the "Pulp way". It's the best option, The Quiet Revolution is great, but doesn't feel like a "single". 

 

Still hopin for a release of the WLL demos. Even more so than a re-recorded song. 



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Not saying the odds are short by any means, but if I had to bet then Cuckoo, QRev or Grandfathers Nursery would be where Id put my money. They were all quite finished and not far off being contenders for making the album.

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Yeah but if they were to do another late-era re-record there are a clutch of songs we've never even heard (St. Just, Performance Of A Lifetime, M'Lady, Darren etc.) and who knows what else ?

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Ah man, I hope they record ten and release an album. I suppose the absence of a WLL Deluxe hints they still have issues liking some of that material.

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The ticket prices for the reunion might reflect the demographic they were expecting (smaller number of middle-aged nostalgics in steady employment) rather than reflecting a self-perception of legend status where they can simply charge what they like. If so, maybe they just dont think WLL deluxe would sell? Hopefully the speed of sales suggests otherwise (though again, the success of reunion #1 didnt change matters). Time could lead to the band looking more favourably on their unreleased output, but perhaps economics and the way things have panned out since suggest a souvenir single rather then more, fun though it is to talk-up the possibility of more. I suppose indecision about what to record could lead to an EP, but thats probably as substantial as we could hope for



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It's been said before but tons of bands with lower profiles/commercial clout than Pulp have released reissue archives from albums that originally sold peanuts.

Pulp must not have the rights to the Island recordings reverting to them where they could use a smaller, more enthusiastic label to license their music to. In which case there would be no shortage of takers.

But being part of the back-catalogue on a mega company like Universal means that they're not top-tier enough to command reissue attention on a big scale. Unless it happens in the wake of the reunion and interest in the group being at its highest since their last period of live activity a decade ago. And if Universal paid for studio time at Abbey Road for Jarvis and Steve to remaster the Pulp albums in recent years, chances are they'll want a return on that at some point.



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And may i add in these days of streaming, the more material you have online, the more money you make doing nothing.

I dont know what streaming numbers are for Pulp, but chances are they make a lot from "Common People" alone (Noel Gallagher said he makes 2k a day with Wonderwall), and adding new unreleased material to put as "suggestions" after that song is played could be good for their wallet. Just saying.

 

I like the idea that they are sitting on WLL outtakes to record maybe a new album. But, with that kinda of project, the original is always better. Would rather them using the original recording and maybe adding some bits to it if need, although judging by what we have so far. There is no need. 



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Interesting sample Nick has posted on Twitter :)

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I think we could get one of the following (in my personal order of preference):

Brand new Pulp album
Super-deluxe reissues of the Island albums including "We Love Life"
"We Love Life" deluxe
Brand new Pulp EP/single
Pulp album made up of re-recordings of "lost" songs (there is about an album's worth of material each from 1982 and 1999-2001, the latter is much more likely to happen)
Pulp EP made up of re-recordings
Re-recording of one song as per "After You"
New Jarv Is Album
Super-deluxe reissues of the Island albums excluding "We Love Life"
A live album or DVD containing songs we have already heard on bootlegs

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Scottbloodyfrazer wrote:

Interesting sample Nick has posted on Twitter :)


 

 

Maybe they are working on an alternate We Love Life ? With the songs we know and some demos that should have been included ? 



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If theyre on good form, and one of the nights is a bit of a walk through their career (2nd night in Sheffield?), you could see a live album as an easy release to bolster their retirement. Given the Jarv Is treatment, as someone else suggested on one of these threads. Interesting idea if done well.

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The Manics have recently released "Know Your Enemy - Remixed and Reconstructed". They originally wanted to release two albums but ended up just releasing one. The resulting double album has been very well received. Pulp certainly had enough material to release two albums in 2001 plus I vaguely remember someone from the band saying that the Chris Thomas recordings were "of a very high standard". This would, therefore, be a possibility.

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Ian wrote:

The Manics have recently released "Know Your Enemy - Remixed and Reconstructed". They originally wanted to release two albums but ended up just releasing one. The resulting double album has been very well received. Pulp certainly had enough material to release two albums in 2001 plus I vaguely remember someone from the band saying that the Chris Thomas recordings were "of a very high standard". This would, therefore, be a possibility.

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They should just release that. It doesn't take much money to take the original recordings, mix it and release it digitally. Well marketed and advertised, it could become the "long lost" Pulp album fans were waiting for.

It's all about advertisement, plus there's probably a new generation of Pulp fans who have never heard of it all. 



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