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Well he's only missing the Hardcore era. They played down t'road in Donny on the sheds tour in '98 but maybe like Russ, J had cooled towards Pulp at the time.

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JASON wrote:

OK....

PULP..

Rockwells, the beehive - 26.07.84
Rockwells, the beehive - 18.12.84
the Leadmill - 29.12.84
the Limit - 7.05.85
Gotham city - 10.07.85
the Leadmill - 22.09.85
Sheff Uni - 25.10.85
the Limit - 14.01.86
Maze Bar - 29.04.86
the Limit - 13.05.86
the Library theatre - 2.07.86
the Leadmill - 19.07.86
the Leadmill - 8.11.86
the Limit - 3.03.87
the Limit - 19.05.87
the Leadmill - 8.08.87
take 2 club - 21.08.87
Sheff Uni - 10.03.88
the Leadmill - 9.08.88
the Leadmill - 8.0289

1991...
the Leadmill - 16.03
the Borderline - 23.04
the Leadmill - 25.05
the Hallamshire - 25.07
Piece hall - 31.08
the Leadmill - 1.09
Sheff Uni - 4.10
the Subterrania - 15.11
the Leadmill - 28.12

1992...
the Leadmill - 11.05
Camden underworld - 27.05
Salford Uni - 28.05
Norwich waterfront - 4.06
Sheff city hall ballroom - 13.07
Piece hall - 5.09
ULU - 23.10
Sheff uni - 7.12

1993...
Leeds Uni - 2.03
the Leadmill - 5.04
the Garage - 15.05
the Leadmill - 20.11
LA2 - 23.11
the Garage - 18.12

The rest....
Sheff Uni - 29.04.94
Drury Lane - 18.12.94
Leicester Uni - 10.10.95
Sheff Arena - 29.02.96
Sheff Uni - 19.11.2001
Royal Albert hall - 31.03.2012
Sheff arena - 8.12.2112


JARVIS.....
Sheff Academy - 25.11.2008
Devils Arse - 6.04.2018
Devils Arse - 7.04.2018


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Between us then, we've got a pretty good run from 84-present. Jason for the early days, then saw and ArGee to pick things up from the mid '90s, then me, Weener and Eamonn to bring it home.

I'd love to get some of your memories of those '80s gigs Jason, if you can remember much of them. What was the vibe like? Did there tend to be many people at them or was it more of a one man and a dog sort of deal? And.... were they any good?

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Eamonn wrote:

Well he's only missing the Hardcore era. They played down t'road in Donny on the sheds tour in '98 but maybe like Russ, J had cooled towards Pulp at the time.


The fall off is relative. I missed the Hardcore era shows as well.  Refused to go to Wembley and was on honeymoon for Finsbury Park.  



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Why refuse Wembley? It's no tight and atmospheric Forum but Finsbury hardly is either. Your beloved Gunners had won the double at Wembley six months prior, Pulp weren't in competition with them biggrin



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Scott.. standout early live tracks are difficult for me to announce, largely because nothing was available, nothing, zero.. So it was only regular attendance that produced any kind of familiarity.. Of course there had been the 'it' lp and it's singles but none of that was included in any show that i went too.. That said, Fairground/The Mark of the Devil/Blue Glow/Maureen & The Never-ending story always cheered me up.. Later it was Rattlesnake/Love is Blind..Then a little further along it was Separations after they speeded it up a bit..Separations remains my fave Pulp song forever...You mention Death comes to Town, it was an immediate ace tune live, and i was aware at the time that Fon were supposedly going to press up a 12" release, as we know, that didn't happen, i maybe wrong here but they did seem to perform it twice at most of the gigs i went to...

Arrgee..Fall off from '93.. yep, it got expensive, the setlists were very samey, formulaic, getting a bit dull.. i had heard most of the His 'n' Hers album in a live setting or a radio session, had a couple of bootleg tapes so the main balls of the album were familiar.. when the lp was eventually delivered, i hated it.. over produced, over egged, too much faffing and swamped with unnecassary tomfoolery... don't get me started with She's a Lady....

Sturdy.. yes, they were good, sometimes a mess, shambles etc... but always good...I kept going back for more didn't i?

Eamonn.. yep, same as SAW, no love after Russell left.. This is Hardcore is bloody awful.. i have tried to give the lp some love but i struggle to listen to any of it.. it sounds just as wanky and dull as a Richard Hawley album..


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Goes without saying that I'm very very jealous. Do you remember any of the onstage antics that always get mentioned? Magnus doing his Keith Moon but only in the quiet songs, Antony Genn finishing every concert in the nip? Or have those tales been exaggerated?

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Eamonn wrote:

Why refuse Wembley? It's no tight and atmospheric Forum but Finsbury hardly is either. Your beloved Gunners had won the double at Wembley six months prior, Pulp weren't in competition with them biggrin


Generally I try to avoid Wembley Arena/Stadium.  Always a drag to get to and get home from.  Also back then it was Arsenals home ground in Europe, so I was having a few bad nights there.  

Not necessarily even about the size of the venue. I have been to O2 and Olympic Stadium for gigs in recent times.   Been to Finsbury Park for gigs a couple of times and its fine as long as you dont drink too much and stay towards the front. 

In retrospect, I wish I had gone.  Which is probably why I caught all bar one of the London gigs for the reunion (just one of the two Brixton nights).



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Well, if nothing else this thread has reminded me just how much I love and adore Pulp. I wish I'd seen them more but I think it's only really a couple of extra gigs I could/should have gone to (leadmill Apr 93 and Octagon 01). However, I had some school friends a couple of years above me that went to a show in 92 (prob May 92). I was given the job of entertaining Emily's German exchange student that night, a very Pulp thing to do I feel. I'm happy with what I saw. They were often charmingly shambolic at times and they had real charisma onstage (esp Jarvis/Russell).
I notice that Jason and I were at four of the same shows!

Stephen



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Jason, when did you get the strong sense that things had to turn for them based on how good they were live and do you remember a moment where you thought "I can't be the only bugger who recognises how good/big they could be?"
Also, did the band recognise you from your regular attendance at the smaller shows?

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Its odd how they would perform a song twice on the same night - I know its happened, whomever uploaded the Halifax 1991 video with Live On performed showed this.

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I guess with both songs the idea was 'OK, this is the next big single that's going to really put us on the map, let's really hammer it home'. Obviously the kiss of death!

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I missed a gig off the list..
Derby, 12.10.92... On this very day..
Should really have remembered this particular show because they gave me a lift back to Sheff..
I was in the back of the van, so ive slept with a Farfisa...

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You are Captain Sleep!

Seriously though, you must have some tales about the group. Was Webb or Russ your "in" ?

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Manners was in attendance at the Halifax, Piece Hall show in '92..
He told me to fuck off!


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Ha! And did you deserve it...?

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Did i deserve it?
Erm...possibly..
Probably, very mistakenly thought i was trying to get off with his bird?
Anyroad, I've just had a listen to the show, reminded that Russell tripped and nearly smashed his Stradivarius and that Cocker fella was pulled feet first off stage, with love of course..
Seen those Pulp people twice here, reminds me of an outdoor Royal Albert Hall...

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Would that be the moment during the start of Shes A Lady on the Halifax gig? I seem to recall the crowd laughing with sarcasm at some point

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Yep, that's right...
I don't think Russell found it particularly funny though, poor fella, i think he got his feet tangled up in some cables and that..
Whoopsy daisey...

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Just had a listen to the Halifax '92 gig, where was it that Jarv got pulled off stage?
Anyway, brilliant gig. Pink Glove sounds very different but still has the same soul that it would be known for.

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