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Nebula


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I surely wasnt offended. Not sure where I insinuated that?

 

My point was some seemed a bit "overly" harsh and upon just first or second listen. That said, I think the album is great, but also could be even better if more tracks.. but after hearing that Centre of the Earth concert... that's ten times better. Something about it and the energy of it completes it. It's okay to have differing opinions. Just give it more than a couple listens or one. Plus, I think some were expecting another jarvis solo #1 or another His n Hers album. This is meant to be far different and on the more experimental, psychedelic level and to literally coincide with the live experience. Honestly they should've released the album as is along with a 2nd side of that live Centre of the Earth performance as well. 

I used to not care much for Pharoah, but then I heard that concert version and I was totally blown away and now see it totally differently. Funny how that happens. 



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Beyond the Pale is a good record, It's all Jarvis is and could be at 50+.

BUT, i expected more. 7 tracks is way too short, there was room for at least two more (and THERE IS two more tracks played at shows). It's weird to release a semi LP like that, unless there is a part 2 or something next year.

We already discussed track lenghts and some production flaws, which are the main let downs for me if you will, since Jarvis solo 1, FC, and Room 29 are perfection. It's hard to go from perfection to just very good. Especially when there's like 10 years gap inbetween (if i take Rough trade silly timeline).

Jarvis is an artist who dont release much material, everything is carefully planned everytime. But this time, yeah, it feels like something is missing. Like we didn't get to see the end of the movie or something. We like that movie, we want it director's cut please.



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i think it's way better than Room 29 and Further Complications.

I do agree that only having 7 tracks is a letdown. The tracks themselves aren't disappointing though.

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Fair enough!

Anyone having not received the bonus cd from rough trade, email them they told me they would send it.

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andy wrote:

Fair enough!

Anyone having not received the bonus cd from rough trade, email them they told me they would send it.

 Have you got an email address?   is it enquiries@roughtrade.com  ?



-- Edited by ArrGee on Monday 3rd of August 2020 04:41:25 PM

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ArrGee wrote:
andy wrote:

Fair enough!

Anyone having not received the bonus cd from rough trade, email them they told me they would send it.

 Have you got an email address?   is it enquiries@roughtrade.com  ?



-- Edited by ArrGee on Monday 3rd of August 2020 04:41:25 PM

 
yes! Tom should reply biggrin



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This record really need to be listened in complet isolation. It sounds very flat on in ear headphone but takes off with over ear headphones. It's like you need to be in your own cave to fully hear the record.

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Yes!! About the headphones thing. 



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Does anyone have any ideas about what Jarvis' teaser regarding a dragonfly on his Instagram might be about?



-- Edited by weed on Saturday 8th of August 2020 02:11:32 PM

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Does anyone have any explanation on the cover for Beyond The Pale? Why the colour? Why only the JARV IS... font - is it a nod to We Love Life? The cave is explained. Also Beyond The Pale I know is an expression. We dont really use it in Australia but what is the context where you would use? Is it like sayings something shit? or lousy?

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He explained the title in an interview but I forgot what it was he said now. 

Also..the coloring etc.. it's called art. It rather fits in a synesthesia like way. 

Tho the promo art/design pieces he used for Evolve promos and on Instagram fit better. And stuff from that ediethewheel artist he uses. 



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The expression " Beyond the pale" is used when someone says or does something that is generally deemed unacceptable (socially, often). " The way you spoke to my mother was awful...it was beyond the pale". I guess Jarvis' love of playing upon words and the fact his new artist name can be used for a myriad of facts/statements (Jarv Is...whatever you want it to be) led him to an album title which sends himself up in a humorous way. It works really well, I think. Especially given his consistent goal of getting "inappropriate subject matter into songs".

Just a bit of a pity that the album title is absent from the front cover where it would be most effective.


Jarvis also learned during his promo interviews for the album that "The Pale" was the part of Ireland around Dublin, the capital, which comprised the stronghold of British occupation of Irish land during the Late Middle Ages. Venturing outside of that area meant laxer authority and entering the realms of local "savages", contemptuous of a foreign invader as well as being areas of poverty.



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weed wrote:

Does anyone have any ideas about what Jarvis' teaser regarding a dragonfly on his Instagram might be about?



-- Edited by weed on Saturday 8th of August 2020 02:11:32 PM

 

 The non herbal-tea enthusiasts might feel anti-climactic about it...

dragonflyteauk We've teamed up with musician, BBC 6 Music presenter and JARV IS... frontman @jarvisbransoncocker to celebrate the release of his new album - Beyond the Pale with a limited edition tea collaboration. Jarvis is a big tea fan & this collaboration is a dream come true for him. Look out for our special tags featuring his lyrics so you can sing along to the new tracks! WELCOME TO THE PEPPERMINT JUNGLE 

 

...Imagine Russell and Mark Webber being told in 1986 when the former would make Mark try different flavours of tea and guess what they were; that this would come to pass !

 

 

 



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weed wrote:

Does anyone have any ideas about what Jarvis' teaser regarding a dragonfly on his Instagram might be about?



-- Edited by weed on Saturday 8th of August 2020 02:11:32 PM

 Teabags. I'll just sit back down then. 



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I'll buy a box as a souvenir. I love tea hard but strictly builders/English breakfast with milk, thanks.

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ArrGee, i finally received the bonus CD. How about you ?

It's just on track, 25 minutes long, with no tracklisting or gracenotes... lazy much ?

I have not listened to it yet though.



-- Edited by andy on Wednesday 12th of August 2020 09:13:09 AM

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andy wrote:

ArrGee, i finally received the bonus CD. How about you ?

It's just on track, 25 minutes long, with no tracklisting or gracenotes... lazy much ?

I have not listened to it yet though.



-- Edited by andy on Wednesday 12th of August 2020 09:13:09 AM

 No, not even got a reply to the email...



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I have asked the bonus CD here: enquiries@roughtrade.com.

I have received the CD few days ago.



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I got an email from Rough Trade saying they would post me one, but i've yet to recieve it.

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It takes time. Got mine like 10 days after the initial reply.

The piece of music is nice, although maybe a bit repetitive. It's weird you cant really tell the difference between the live and recorded in studio parts.

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This album is the best release ever done since WLL. It could have been a great Pulp album, but 7 tracks is too frustrating. We need a volume 2 before the end of the year...



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pulped wrote:

We need a volume 2 before the end of the millenium...

 

fixed it for you with Jarvis in mind. biggrin



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When I first heard the single 'Must I Evolve?' I wasn't that impressed. But now I have heard the album in full, I'm gonna say this might be his best post-Relaxed Muscle album. I like it. It has a bit of a early Pulp vibe here and there, and I love 'Save the Whale'. One of his best songs.

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I still haven't recieved the bonus CD. I got an email reply from RT on the 6th of August.

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pulped wrote:

This album is the best release ever done since WLL. It could have been a great Pulp album, but 7 tracks is too frustrating. We need a volume 2 before the end of the year...

 I've finally made my deluxe CD version:

 

- 7 tracks

- Big Prinz

- Depressive Disco

- Let's Stick Around

- Straight to the morning (Hot Chip)

- Synchronize Extended mix (Discodeine).



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