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Completely agree that DC sounds far too compressed, by design I'm sure.
Not convinced another remastering would remedy the spacial sound experience...
But....But....a complete remix certainly would, which would be my personal road to go down.
Anyroad, it's a magic lp as it is, it's not a flawed product by any standards but i don't have any apetite or enthusiasm for another remaster of questionable sonic difference.

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Mmm, Different Class in 5:1 cinematic sound! Not that I've got the fancy audio gear for such things, but it's a cool thought.



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Fuss Free wrote:

I have always said there's a better mastering of DC to be made. Aside from a few spacious bits on I Spy and F.E.E.L.I.N.G. the album sounds like an old mono LP. We all know there are dense layers of instrumentation in that album but it's all been crushed down into a radio-friendly strum and thurn. Its like: I want to sit in the middle of these songs, but the way the album has been mastered it like the songs are being played a 100 yards away. That's probably intentional but honestly it just doesn't really do justice to the songs in todays fancy headphones & Hi-Fi atmos stereo systems.

So yeah I would totally buy a re-master if it unpacked the layers and let let them breathe a bit.

But I reckon this is a session for Jarv's new album, whatever it turns out to be. And yeah, I will probably buy that too.



-- Edited by Fuss Free on Tuesday 23rd of July 2019 06:48:35 PM


 

Agree, in these days we can make some older record really good. the Beatles reissues were astonishing, even on the Esher demos, and something could be done with DC. Still hoping for unreleased material, like WLL demos or stuff like that though. 



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Is this what they were up to? : https://www.recordstore.co.uk/recordstore/Exclusive-Ltd-Vinyl/His-N-Hers-Exclusive-25th-Anniversary-Edition-White-Vinyl/69Z00HQX000



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Yeah, maybe they remastered DC too as the guy in the pic didn't work on HnH. A bit disappointing this, the blurb mentions Babies but the tracklisting is as per the original ten track UK vinyl release. A lot of turning over and switching records too, not sure if the superior audio will be clear enough to make up for that!

I'd be more tempted if they included the b-sides or tracklisting as per the MusicOnVinyl HnH release from 2012 (which in turn was a transfer of the 2CD 2006 deluxe edition). Or including the Sisters EP at least might make this more tempting.



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why add single artwork but not the tracks.....seems foolish, and a waste of a great reissue. I'd love a remaster of HnH & Seconds

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soap-on-a-rope wrote:

Is this what they were up to? : https://www.recordstore.co.uk/recordstore/Exclusive-Ltd-Vinyl/His-N-Hers-Exclusive-25th-Anniversary-Edition-White-Vinyl/69Z00HQX000


 Yes. 

Remastered at Abbey Road supervised by Steve Mackey (Pulp bass player and producer). Steve later went on to produce for MIA, Florence + The Machine, Arcade Fire etc.

 



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Eamonn wrote:

Yeah, maybe they remastered DC too as the guy in the pic didn't work on HnH. A bit disappointing this, the blurb mentions Babies but the tracklisting is as per the original ten track UK vinyl release. A lot of turning over and switching records too, not sure if the superior audio will be clear enough to make up for that!

I'd be more tempted if they included the b-sides or tracklisting as per the MusicOnVinyl HnH release from 2012 (which in turn was a transfer of the 2CD 2006 deluxe edition). Or including the Sisters EP at least might make this more tempting.


Additionally, there is at least an album's worth of material from this period we haven't heard such as the rest of the Fallout Shelter demos, the Ed Buller remix of "Pink Glove" and the Ian Broudie remix of "Lipgloss". The Suede reissues were worth buying because of the wealth of extra material.



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Yup for reasons already described this is poor.

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Not so much it is poor, but not sure I want to pay £30 for an LP I have in 5 different versions again. And if I am not going to buy it who will?

If they do similar with Different Class, I might if they have interchangeable covers, as I never got that.

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ArrGee wrote:

Not so much it is poor, but not sure I want to pay £30 for an LP I have in 5 different versions again. And if I am not going to buy it who will?


 Those who have less than five different versions of it maybe?  ;) The only reason I'll consider buying this is that I don't have any HnH vinyls.

In addition to the stuff Ian mentioned, I'd love to hear the early demos from the September '93 sessions prior to the album being recorded. Unfortunately, a straightforward anniversary reissue of an album such as this vinyl makes it less likely that a more thorough multi-disc reissue of the same era will come out anytime soon. If they aren't going to do such a thing on an album by album basis, maybe just do a nice box of (major label) career-spanning 1992-2002 with extra discs of live and demo recordings like Blur have done and Supergrass are doing shortly.



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Eamonn wrote:
The only reason I'll consider buying this is that I don't have any HnH vinyls.
Sure but the last single LP version is still available, so why pay twice as much for the same material? Would like to hear if it sounds any different before I commit.

Do a nice box of (major label) career-spanning 1992-2002 with extra discs of live and demo recordings like Blur have done and Supergrass are doing shortly.

As all the Island LPs (except Intro and arguably Hits) are out there and still available, I am not sure there is the demand.  But then again as a sucker who has bought Bowie & Suede boxes of stuff I mostly had, I guess I would buy it.

 



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