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Here is the new "single" from Jarvis.

thoughts ?

 

Sounds like WLL outtake...



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ha! was just about to post the viddy

 

old site back in action https://www.jarviscocker.net/



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There is a PHYSICAL version of the single that will only be on sale at shows like ALL POINTS EAST. It's alright as a song, but I think other songs from the recent set list are better.

www.nme.com/news/music/listen-to-must-i-evolve-the-new-single-from-jarvis-cocker-2488219

...the track is currently streaming online, its physical release has been limited to sales at forthcoming Jarvis shows including dates at Londons All Points East Festival later this month and Primavera shortly after that.
Read more at www.nme.com/news/music/listen-to-must-i-evolve-the-new-single-from-jarvis-cocker-2488219

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It's pretty rollicking innit?

He mentioned to Lauren that there will be a warm-up show prior to All Points East but I couldn't catch the name of the venue. Apparently all will be revealed on Friday morning.

With regards to a physical single, presumably a 7" vinyl, I wonder if it will have another new song as a b-side. If they're still short on songs, I guess not. Looks like there's a radio edit of Evolve so maybe it'll just be that.



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It's pretty rollicking innit?

He mentioned to Lauren that there will be a warm-up show prior to All Points East but I couldn't catch the name of the venue. Apparently all will be revealed on Friday morning.

With regards to a physical single, presumably a 7" vinyl, I wonder if it will have another new song as a b-side. If they're still short on songs, I guess not. Looks like there's a radio edit of Evolve so maybe it'll just be that.

Did note Raconteurs were doing warm up in Electric Ballroom.  Wonder where it would be?  

Could be a CD or a cassette.  Someone told me the latter are making a comeback... (... heaven knows why)

Puts me in a small dilemma though, if I get the physical copy early I will be dragging it around all day and it will get creased and covered in beer/grease. But if I wait until later they will all be gone, never to be seen again.



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ArrGee wrote:

Puts me in a small dilemma though, if I get the physical copy early I will be dragging it around all day and it will get creased and covered in beer/grease. But if I wait until later they will all be gone, never to be seen again.

 My thoughts exactly. The dilemma.



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Sounds grand based on a couple of spins. Enjoyed the interview too.

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(Also quite cool that there's a 50% likelihood i was present when it was recorded. Not much evidence of it being a live recording mind... presumably quite a lot of work in 'post').



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Like it.
Curious about the audience sounds at the end though?
It's not an "in-concert" recording is it?

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See the notes on the YouTube video - "on Saturday 7th April they played a concert in Peak Cavern, Derbyshire & most of the music on this single was recorded that night"

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He almost fluffs a word in the first couple of lines, so maybe they have left in more live than you'd think, albeit put through a food blender.

I like the way the percussion turns into Space by Pulp as Jarvis starts the segment about living in caves. Space is OK but he'd rather get his kicks underground.


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Eamonn wrote:

He mentioned to Lauren that there will be a warm-up show prior to All Points East but I couldn't catch the name of the venue. Apparently all will be revealed on Friday morning.

 

 

 I thought the place he mentioned sounded like "Chap's Palace". When I tried looking it up, I got the suggestion of Chat's Palace (https://chatspalace.com/ ) which is a) in Hackney and b) offers rehearsal and performance spaces for hire, so sounds pretty plausible on both fronts.



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"Video" is pretty psychedelic too. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U720Rz_jz_A&list=RDU720Rz_jz_A&start_radio=1

Presumably if you record the sound through the mixing desk, you lose most of the ambient audience sounds, any mics on acoustic instruments/ vocals must still be very short range/ directional or they'd feedback. Then have a separate one recording the audience to bring in at the very end.



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Good sleuthing Fran, think you might be right. Blimey, they're as much of an east-London band as Pulp were Sheffield!

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Ah, should have listened to the interview, now the recording makes sense.
Essentially, live recording with studio overdubs.
So, i contributed in a small way, where's me royalties Cocker?

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What's the link for the interview ?

I thought it sounded a bit underproduced, it's live so that makes sense. Weird because Elvis has Left the Building sound like a studio recording. Maybe it wont be included on the new record ?

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Elvis... was for a soundtrack so outside of the album recordings I guess. I'd rather it not be included on the album as I think it's the weakest of the material we've heard.

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Yeah I agree with this. He mentions long songs in the interview so I am hoping the heck for Chilled Ibiza.

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WOW! This. Song. Is. A. Banger!

Glastonbury Park Stage headline bangin'. Surely?

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I think its absolutely class, cant stop listening to it, it sounds great loud

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Yes yes yes yes

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Barcroft wrote:

WOW! This. Song. Is. A. Banger!

Glastonbury Park Stage headline bangin'. Surely?

 You're obsessed with Glastonbury! (I think)



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Eamonn wrote:
Barcroft wrote:

WOW! This. Song. Is. A. Banger!

Glastonbury Park Stage headline bangin'. Surely?

 You're obsessed with Glastonbury! (I think)

 YES YES YES YES YES YES YES



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WOOOWW this is soooo good!!!!! and theres a tiny bit of Weeds 2 (the origin of the species) about it?



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It's 10 times better than Weeds II

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"The Occasional Badger" - great name for a pub, that

Great track, oh YesYesYesYesYes. More excited than I'd expected to be.

A few recycled ideas that were fun to hear: the 'pop' of the big bang comes close to the whisper at end of the world in Quiet Revolution; repetition of 'so glad we made it' is reminiscent of 'so glad I found ya' in It's a Dirty World'; the field somewhere in Hampshire is sort of aluded to too)



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Wow, this song definitely benefits from multiple listens and playing it loud. I was a bit on the fence at first but now I'm hooked!

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Jarv in The Observer tomorrow:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BxmjlH4FiTw/



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Lovelorn wrote:

Wow, this song definitely benefits from multiple listens and playing it loud. I was a bit on the fence at first but now I'm hooked!

If it does make regular radio play, hope the edit will still hold up. To many times, radio cuts the song in odd places.

 



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ITW in the Guardian

www.theguardian.com/music/2019/may/19/jarvis-cocker-i-have-lived-in-my-head-for-most-of-my-life

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Some interesting thoughts - nothing about Jarv Is though! He's great at not publicising himself, isn't he?!
Good to hear that the book is still in the works.

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Mary-Anne Hobbs is about to play the radio edit this morning (original is nearly 7 minutes long) - she seems to think it's a very interesting, not simply chopping half the song out - described as a remix. Hopefully might actually get some radio play!



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The edit is a minute shorter but still getting on for 6 minutes so I imagine at that length even 6Music-play will be sporadic.

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Eamonn wrote:

The edit is a minute shorter but still getting on for 6 minutes so I imagine at that length even 6Music-play will be sporadic.

 It's hardly music for radio play anyway, innit ? biggrin



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I must have misheard/ misinterpreted what she said at the beginning of the programme, not a radio edit at all, just a remix.



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superchob wrote:

A few recycled ideas that were fun to hear: the 'pop' of the big bang comes close to the whisper at end of the world in Quiet Revolution; repetition of 'so glad we made it' is reminiscent of 'so glad I found ya' in It's a Dirty World'; the field somewhere in Hampshire is sort of aluded to too)

 ...and the swirly sound effects from Space rear their head.. actually, after repeated listening, I think there's a good deal more self-reference going on here than initially meets the ear - ironic in a song about evolution and wondering whether there's even a need to continue and reinvent...

The audience provides the imperitive refrain (the "yes!" and "no!") that answers him, and his repeated rephrasing of the same question (and especially the eventual statement of doubt) amounts to resistance to their demands. So, could this be a 'goodbye' album? Remember, there was plenty of disgust expressed at the notion of churning-out identikit 'product' back in the Hardcore days ("just another song about single mothers and sex" etc).

Alternatively, it could be an admission that he still finds it hard. (And again, writing never seemed to come easily post-DC).

This song is thrilling and bodes well for the album, but I think the gap between the innovation it proclaims and that is demonstates is deliberate and possibly rather clever. I thought Room 29 showed him to be an even cuter writer than I'd previously thought - beyond his evident wit



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apparently shops start selling them today. if any of you love me, you'll pick up two copies and i'll pay ya! must warn you....i'm stateside

 

 

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i think i may have scored one!!!! i may faint



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Rough Trade shops only.

It's slightly annoying since I was at one of the gigs and they weren't available & now I'd have to make the trip to London to get a copy as they won't sell them online. (I live in Newcastle)

So Obviously I am planning to make the trip & just hope they have some left on Friday when I'm next free.

If I can snap up an extra couple of copies for our friends here overseas then I will.

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no



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It's not just Rough Trade, they're in all the indies.Norman Records in Leeds, Crash in Leeds etc...

I picked up a copy from Sister Ray Soho and they had tons, so I do think that if you're fairly quick you should be able to get one if you're UK based.

They're also all one per person for itll be fake moustache / wide brimmed hat required for multiples.




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If anyone is planning on visiting Barcelona... There's copies in a shop called Wah Wah Records near La Rambla. At least that's where I got my copy from back in June

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if anyone is getting multiple copies for prosperity and can get another one i can reimburse via paypal. Ebay is pathetic for postage to australia. :(

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So news about the record yet ?



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How much are they charging for the 12" at record shops?

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£8.99

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Not bad considering it was £15 at the live shows.

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