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Just one day ago this was posted on a Omega auctions fb post. 

A possibility that the live Marples tape may finally see the light?



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Wow! If this happens, are some of us going to get together and bid on it then copy it for all the others?

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For sure Ian.
I have no idea on the copyright issues concerning an official release, which if memory serves was the original intention of the bouquet of steel people?
I guess they own the tape and are legitimately able to sell it?
Realistically though, other than the hardcore, who would shell out for this if they couldn't profit from it?
How much is it actually worth?



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OH MY GOD YES FINALLY JARVIS HAS SEEN MY COMMENTS AND DMS!

 

 

 

...i think



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www.dropbox.com/s/z5o50xbevn8c1lp/06.%20PULP%20-%20YOU%27VE%20GOT%20A%20FACE.wav?dl=0

A little gift..
Don't stick it on youtube or any other platform, link will be deleted at 12 pm..

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wow, happening so fast! Thanks for sharing this.



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Holy HECKING HECK!... THIS IS HECKING REVOLUTIONARY



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Is this going on the portfolio?? Could I add it to the portfolio?? Also when did the auction take place? Was it that fast? Like oof



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There's no auction that's been decided or happening.
This recording is from a Sheffield show - the Limit club - 13/4/82..

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DANGIT that just goes to show you how excited I get over pulp.

But like where did you get this recording then?

And about the actual tape, I think that they have to get Jarviss permission to sell it, they said that he was gunna come in to listen to it but never did



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Jason wrote:

www.dropbox.com/s/z5o50xbevn8c1lp/06.%20PULP%20-%20YOU%27VE%20GOT%20A%20FACE.wav?dl=0

A little gift..
Don't stick it on youtube or any other platform, link will be deleted at 12 pm..


 Thank you! Some lovely instrumentals in there (though I don't think I understood a single word of the lyrics)



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For sure Ian.
I have no idea on the copyright issues concerning an official release, which if memory serves was the original intention of the bouquet of steel people?
I guess they own the tape and are legitimately able to sell it?
Realistically though, other than the hardcore, who would shell out for this if they couldn't profit from it?
How much is it actually worth?



-- Edited by Jason on Friday 22nd of March 2019 08:25:46 AM


I think that it would be a good idea because there have been times in the past where people on this forum have bid against each other (perhaps without knowing) and the price has gone up as a result. 

We never did find out what happened to that tape with the Ian Broudie remix of "Lipgloss" on. Unfortunately it only came to light a couple of hours before the end of the auction so we never had time to plan anything. 

If this auction happens, I am more than happy to be the bidder and collect payments off people afterwards. Of course, the tape will then be ripped and uploaded in the highest quality possible.



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Awesome, just awesome, thanks for sharing.

>>>Would happily contribute to a joint bid<<<

I've been a net recipient from this community for so long & have gained so much from others, it'd be great to have a chance to contribute a little something

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Lovelorn wrote:
Jason wrote:

www.dropbox.com/s/z5o50xbevn8c1lp/06.%20PULP%20-%20YOU%27VE%20GOT%20A%20FACE.wav?dl=0

A little gift..
Don't stick it on youtube or any other platform, link will be deleted at 12 pm..


 Thank you! Some lovely instrumentals in there (though I don't think I understood a single word of the lyrics)


I have had a go:

 

They said ??? face

And ??? face

???

???

That is exactly what youre doing

I hope you dont mind

Youve got a lot inside

Youve got a ???

 

Youve got to take

Youve really got a cheek

I heard youve also got a mouth too

 

I want ???

Ive really got ???

Ive got a thing Id like to call you

 

Youre coming home

Youve really got a nerve

Youve got a ??? with my birthday suit

 

???

Youve got a nerve

Youve really got a nerve

You ???

 

Youve got a face

Youve really got a face

I go round and round and round

You go la la la la la



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This is crazy! Thanks Jason!

I'm more than happy to contribute to a joint bid too, if someone wants to to do the admin - then count me in.



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Contribution to the costing for this would be the least that I could do. What a fantastic piece of music that was, Sturdy did this get played at your launch party for the book? It sounds familiar, maybe I am getting a bit of "Please Dont Worry" from the melody. Dunno.

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I think it did along with "How Could You Leave Me?"

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Are these two different early live gigs we're discussing - Jason's kind upload from the Limit Apr'82 and the mooted auction recording from the Marples earlier (?) that year?

You wait years for buried Pulp to be dug-up and then out it pours...definitely in to help with the win and thanks Jason.

 

Edited: Marples instead of Marbles, damn autocorrect! 



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Let's do thiiiiiis!

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Yep, sorry for the confusion.
This recording the limit club i was going to let out on it's anniversary but decided, what the hell? Let it go now.
And of course the Marples tape hopefully may go to auction.

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Why not let the whole gig out? Or where you thinking about saving the rest of it for the aniversary



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Don't be greedy..
Anyroad, maybe i only have this one track?

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Thanks a lot for this one!!

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Thanks for sharing Jason! :D

Also, if the Marples tape does end up going to auction, I'd be happy to chip in to any joint bid.



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It's an exciting time to be a fan, it seems. Good on ya Jason and thanks very much.

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Jamie Smith does indeed need to get the tape into an auction. An assortment of us have, at various points, offered to buy it off him, but he never responds. An actual auction may be the only way this happens - if he ever does pull his finger out!

Has anyone else tried to chat with Jamie about this? I know myself, Jason and Sturdy have. I don't believe he's ever responded, even when just a tracklist has been offered. (Not that one would be too hard to work out!)

Let's keep an eye out. I'm sure a group of us could purchase it if it ever did emerge.

And, Jason - I don't come here for ages, and find a holy grail being let out. How very Pulp, tho - you haven't even given it its own thread! A reward for the regular readers, then :)

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Initially, Jamie was responsive when i first enquired about the tape but that came to nothing.
I really hope it does surface, as for it's potential value at auction?
Who knows?

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The value of the concert is really going to be down to those who bid for it. Its going to be so hard to put a price to such a rare piece of history. At the same time, I dont want to be having a gun held to our head as ransom for this. I hope we are able to get this, and not be outbid or outdone by some greedy person who has no agenda for bidding compared to the genuine fan like us.

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Might be an odd suggestion, but if 'ransom', greedy agenda or dodgy practices are real concerns, maybe discussions about teaming up to win this auction on the public forum is not the best place.

We don't want the competition knowing our strategy?



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Not that bad a shout that. Myself and Ian live literally 15 miles away, so I'm sure that others could be close to one and another too

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so uh did everyone just die? i haven't seen a reply since last week

 



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Maybe there is nothing more to report on at the moment? Maybe were keeping it quiet from you? Maybe its to do with Brexit? CONSPIRACY!!!

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If this picks up again, please count me in for donations.

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I didn't say anything earlier but count me in as well

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I would also contribute.

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Jason wrote:

www.dropbox.com/s/z5o50xbevn8c1lp/06.%20PULP%20-%20YOU%27VE%20GOT%20A%20FACE.wav?dl=0

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Ouch, I missed this one. Any chance to re-up it again? Cheers.



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Paul Burgess has notified on Facebook of a new assortment of Pulp demos/mixes on Omega auctions. A bit more meat on this collection. Of most interest would possibly be what seems to be a recording of the 1997 Barbican performance (presumably an improvement on the young Surdy's tentative dictaphone efforts), the original Lipgloss demo and rough mixes of Hardcore material (Party Hard without the vocoder effect!).

Although probably not worth the £120 the bidding currently stands at (happy to chip in, we can share weekend custody of the tapes etc.). Auction ends tomorrow:

https://bid.omegaauctions.co.uk/auction/lot/lot-82---pulp---promo-and-demo-cassettes-rough-trade-archive/?lot=3168&so=0&st&sto=0&au=14&ef&et&ic=False&sd=0&pp=48&pn=2&g=1&fbclid=IwAR2clDmoCZ6srMEnKityPjkYbOi7BLmmlQWpyNwwStUc6Oa0oMAW--9H7aQ



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Just to update, three of us on the FB page have expressed interest in a joint bid including Mr Burgess. I floated the idea that the largest contributor keeps the tapes and they/someone converts to digital files for the rest of us. Would have to move fast. I guess I'd be willing to pay up to £30.

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Just to clairfy - I am the person who has bid £120. If people are willing to contribute, then thats fine with me.



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Oh wow, such treasure!

I'd chip in, too.

And would be able to digitize them, if you can't Scott - I did the recent recording of the Dolebusters cassette rereleased via Sheffield Tape Archive, and the London Astoria '94 recording released via Ian's FEELINGCALLEDLIVE site, if you want to hear how they turned out.



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I'll chip in too. I have access to a pro quality tape deck and a 24 bit digital recorder so could help with the transfer too if needed.

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By the way, I think the Barbican tape is the 'In C' performance from 1998. Terry Riley wasn't involved with the La Monte Young tribute that I expertly captured on my top quality mini cassette dictaphone...

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What was Pulp's involvement there? Can't see anything about it on Pulpwiki.

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I am happy to chip in as well and upload the resultant material to my site.

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Eamonn wrote:

What was Pulp's involvement there? Can't see anything about it on Pulpwiki.


 There's a bit of info here: https://pulpwiki.net/Jarvis/MiscellaneousLive



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For those wondering what we are talking about - these are the tapes involved in the two auctions that are taking place.

 



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Ah, didn't realise there were 2 sets. The second looks like it's by far the more interesting, although of course who knows till we can hear it.

There's also this, but I think the Pulp content is just the standard Razzmatazz EP tracks...

bid.omegaauctions.co.uk/auction/lot/lot-86---indie---promo-and-demo-cassettes-rough-trade-archive/

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Well the auctions have been and gone - with good news and bad news.

Auction 1 - promos, mix tapes and potential demo of His N Hers, Acrylic Afternoons and Someone Like The Moon.......sold for £170. I bid on this up to £150, but didnt see the value in going above that.

Auction 2 - the one we all wanted.....has been won, by.......... US! The bad news, it went for £340 (plus sellers premium). I was prepared to pay £300 before it got spotted by other members from Bar Italia - it was never going cheap, the bids were pretty much instant, and shot up to £260 in no time. I got outbid at £300, so I bid £340 (it was £320 at the time) - and won it.

Ill attatch the proof of auction victory in this post, and ill also post the invoice up later so you can all see the breakdown.

For those who are willing to contribute to this - please pm me, or add me on facebook - Ideally what I want is for us all to contribute equally, as it would be unfair for one person to say pay £50, and someone else only willing to pay £10. Ive never done something like this before, so im new to all this kind of approach, and would like people to make their suggestions known as to how to go about sorting this out. They will be digitally converted - also into Wav format and MP3, so we can have lossless audio for the audiogeeks out there, and also MP3 for them who just want to listen.

Please can we have communications as to who wants to contribute, and ill list on here who (unless you want to remain anonymous) you are and send you all something by way of a thank you (some Pulp things that arent out there yet - but will upload them to Ian's site in a few weeks)

Much love.



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I've been in contact with Scott throughout this, he deserves a lot of credit for spotting the auction and going through with such a huge bid. I think with the tax added (28%), that takes the total cost to £435. 20 people chipping in 20 quid each and transferring it to Scott should be doable?

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A new thread has been opened for any responses regarding the auction demos. Thanks.

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Jamie Smith hawking this on Facebook today.



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Eamonn wrote:

Jamie Smith hawking this on Facebook today.


 Just about to share this same thing, in case anyone wants to get hold of it?



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I offered him the £500 for the tape a few months back and he didn't even reply.

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Did we sell the last tape we bought? I forgot all about that

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Yep. The money is still there awaiting future goodies to be pounced upon ( you just never know :) )

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Looks like this has finally happened: http://www.ebay.com/itm/236625215658



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Is there an plan for a pool bid? Id happily chuck in £40-50 or whatever to see unheard songs liberated and shared on Ian's site

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I'll join in too

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Just missed the auction! I remember hearing word of this tape a few years ago and wondering what happened to it. I really hope it's gone to a good home - preferably to someone who is willing to upload a copy online for archival purposes.

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Interesting that the auction ended on 15th Feb - 44 years to the day - wonder if planned or another one of those uncanny coincidences the universe chucks in occasionally.



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