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In this weeks NME there is a piece on the film and a few bits of info on what Jarv said at SXSW during his talk. 

(I nicked this picture off twitter)



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That's the same one I posted the other day here. 

http://baritalia.activeboard.com/t56562530/sheffield-sex-city-sxsw/

It does suffer from TMI in places, but there are interesting extra snippets about the film. He has said he is "being creative" a few times over that trip, so it wasn't just some random one-off remark. Though with Jarvis that could presumably mean almost anything.

For instance, I saw this today about some arty festival thing he's going to be at, sounds creative, but not in the conventional "new album" sense.

"Pulp lead singer Jarvis Cocker will join another music-themed debate, titled Hybrid Vigor: When Music, Art and Documentary Collide. "

http://variety.com/2014/film/international/sundance-presents-cross-section-of-u-s-indie-fare-music-themed-pix-at-london-festival-1201143858/



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i did think when I was posting that I'd seen something similar but it was sort of early and I'm a bit poorly so I just did it. smile

"Trying to be creative" has been mentioned quite a bit but apart from his "new album" quip on the Service that's the first time I've seen/heard writing new music actually mentioned. So, exciting!

 

 



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Jarvgirl wrote:

i did think when I was posting that I'd seen something similar but it was sort of early and I'm a bit poorly so I just did it. smile

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That wasn't meant to be a pointed remark, I write all kinds of tripe most of the time after not reading things properly as it's usually too early, or I am trying to get kids out of bed, or cook tea ..... I think I was a bit worried people had taken offence at the yucky bit, so I was reassured to see it reappear (Pulp person social angst, anyone?).

Hope you're better soon. BTW I was trying to spot you on my Big Melt DVD.

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"Trying to be creative" has been mentioned quite a bit but apart from his "new album" quip on the Service that's the first time I've seen/heard writing new music actually mentioned. So, exciting! 


But this is a bit better:

"He said he was composing more music but ruled out a reunion of Pulp, the band famous for singles such as Common People and Disco 2000. We have done that, we wont do it again. But hopefully I will find a way of inflicting any new music on an unsuspecting public. "

 http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2014-03-25/6-music-presenter-jarvis-cocker-refuses-to-grieve-for-bbc3



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I find his line about finding out if he has "any creative energy left" really sad. God I hope he does.

 

i totally get the Pulp Person social angst :)

so do you see the crowd on the DVD then? I thought it would just be the film? That's exciting then. I'm right at the front next to Jarvis.






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You get the basic film, as on TV, along with the whole thing again filmed in the Crucible focusing on the musicians and you can't the film itself that well in that version, it's on the screen in the background. It flicks around quite a bit following different people as they do their bits. You can't see the audience particularly well most of the time as the shots are either over their heads or close ups on a musician.

if he has "any creative energy left" - he always downplays everything as far as possible, you know, if you expect nothing you can't be disappointed. When you see all the things he's always involved in, he doesn't seem to be able to stop being creative. I'm just going to put this remark down to the usual total lack of confidence.



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"He said he was composing more music but ruled out a reunion of Pulp"

This is very bad news, not that excited about solo Jarvis.

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'He said he was composing more music but ruled out a reunion of Pulp, the band famous for singles such as Common People and Disco 2000. We have done that, we wont do it again. But hopefully I will find a way of inflicting any new music on an unsuspecting public.'

Yes, Shotoki, I agree. No more Pulp = tragedy.

Not to mention a waste on so many levels. (Shakes head despairingly).

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I think it's EXCELLENT news! (Not the lack of Pulp but I'd love new solo Jarv!)

 

I mean, no more Pulp would be a tragedy, but just the fact that he's decided to do new anything is good.



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Oh, yes, Jarvgirl. It is, indeed, FANTASTIC, that we are getting anything Jarvis-music related at all, I agree. I just don't like the door being closed on Pulp forever. I would prefer Jarv to say "not very likely" or "never say never", rather than "we won't be".

I am, however, v grateful, Jarvis hasn't gone off to become a trout farmer or vineyard owner or something. He is still in the thick of things and is unretire-able, I believe, 'cos he will always be interested in the world around him and everybody wants to work with him and there is no shortage of ideas, I should think, when you are surrounded by active, thinking, doing people. (I didn't express that very well but you get the drift).

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Anyway, he's going to say that there'll never be new Pulp when there's a film coming out saying that Sheff was their last ever uk concert.



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Now you've given me hope...

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Sorry Panther I was typing while you were posting!

aaand again!

Somebody told me they were discussing new Pulp while we were filming. So they either decided against or are keeping quiet.





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We are dead quick off the mark, aren't we?!

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I wonder what Jarvis's songwriting subject matter will be, now he is 50?

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Do you really have to ask that?wink



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Do you think "he ruled out a reunion of Pulp ... We have done that, we wont do it again." ,more specifically applies to going round playing old songs, rather than any possibility of doing anything new. As much as anything though, I worry about Candida's arthritis,  this piece we've had posted before talks about there being a bit in the film about it. I remember it being clearest in a picture or video I saw of her signing some autographs in Chile recently, her wrist looked really awkward. 

http://variety.com/2014/film/reviews/sxsw-film-review-pulp-1201127663/



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Candida's arthritis was definitely mentioned as a factor during the conversation. Her keyboard can't tilt much further. It must be awful for her.



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Yeah, I guess it's the clearest indication yet that the film is the wrap on Pulp's swan-song. If they didn't carry on during 2013 and this year on the back of the reunion feel-good factor I really can't imagine them reconvening another few years down the line just to see if they can try and write and record new material which seems to be a tortuous prospect at the best of times for most of the members. Throw in Candida's hands being unable to take much strain and it's very much an unlikely prospect. Still gutting though, as I'm sure many of us were hopeful, optimistic even, that they might have been gradually beavering away at their own slow pace.

I know Jarvis probably gets sick of being asked about new material especially if it's Pulp as there's more expectation on that than anything else he happens to be working on, (and aside from Spring '95 when a bottle of brandy helped him finish Different Class, expectation seems to be something he likes to shy away from) but it's hard not to get exasperated at his hand-wringing and self-deprecation about potential new albums from him or Pulp.

After You aside, (and that was an old song spruced-up), I think I'm right in saying he hasn't released any new music of his own/Pulp's since Girls Like It Too on the Further Complications single, which is four and a half years ago. I would venture that this is his longest spell of inactivity since he was 19 (if we're talking strictly albums it's five years from We Love Life to Jarvis but Miner's Strike and Cunts shorten that gap if it's songs only - I guess the Harry Potter stuff could be put in there too)....anyway, the point is, collabs, radio-shows, reunions, literary endeavours and other projects aside, plenty of time has passed for him to just get on with it and put-out a record of some description.

As Panther says, he's surrounded by creativity on a constant basis, besides having it in spades himself so the self-doubting thing is cute and stuff but c'mon...yeah?



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I agree. Well said, Eamonn, you speak for a lot of us. (If I were ever on a jury with you, you'd have my vote for foreman).

Two questions: why are Pulp allowing Status Quo to keep the Longest-Surviving-Band-Ever crown, when Pulp could've nicked it if they'd carried on?! wink  And in the time Eamonn says that Jarv could've put together an album, what has he actually been doing? Swanning down the River Don on a raft? Practising pinball? Stocking up on Nova magazines?

Maybe he's just been living a normal life and having a nice time, which you can't blame him for, really.

 

 



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I agree with you apart from this "well he could have been releasing an album, what has he been doing all this time?" Thing. Probably not wanting to release an album? 



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Panther wrote:

 And in the time Eamonn says that Jarv could've put together an album, what has he actually been doing? Swanning down the River Don on a raft? Practising pinball? Stocking up on Nova magazines? 


 

...a world tour, a documentary, a weekly radio show, a song for Fantastic Mr Fox, the score for The Big Melt, new Relaxed Muscle music for a dance performance and the Barbican, a book, guest editor of The Observer, DJing, producing...

What have you done in the last 4 years?



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