Wow, I'm enjoying all this forum drama, it's been a bit quiet recently!
This is all very interesting. I'll say one thing, maybe it's just because I'm part of a generation who have grown up with the internet and having rare music easily accessible, but to me, anyone who charges money for bootlegs, demos or rare tracks in a first class cunt. I think bootleg hoarders are cunts in general tbh- I have loads of Pulp bootlegs, but my real passion is rare Belle & Sebastian stuff and although I don't want them just flying around the internet willy nilly, I will certainly send them to people when they ask me to, whether or not they have anything to trade. It breaks my heart when I go on the website of a collector who lists all these amazing bootlegs, yet the only way they'll send you them is if you can trade them some fucking Wire show from 1979.
Also, what was the craic with Weed and Fred? Was there an argument? It's a shame Fred's gone, he was a good egg. But I do love internet forums, I've never been a 'troll' but I love winding people up and generally dicking around/saying the first thing that comes into my head. Life's too short to take internet band geekery seriously.
Scott should really have the decency to come on and reply. Hard to believe he pulled this stunt multiple times and that those who were ripped-off and post on here didn't say 'owt.
Pretty much everybody I have had contact with through this board has been friendly and honest, so it's sad to read this thread.
I had some dealings with Scott several years ago, but thankfully I wasn't really ripped off like others clearly have been. I did pay for some of the demos he had acquired. I remember he said he'd sent them, but they didn't initially turn up, so I agreed to download them instead. Soon after I got a card to collect them from the sorting office because they'd been sent without any postage.
I think I paid £20 (plus a couple of CD-Rs). I kept the cost down by only buying half of what he was offering, with somebody else buying the other half, and we then did a swap. I've never liked paying for unreleased recordings, but at the time what he was offering just seemed too interesting to turn down. I'm still impressed he managed to dig up some of those rarities.
-- Edited by Will on Tuesday 21st of May 2013 10:46:58 PM
Scott never ripped me off but I did contact him once to offer a trade for Flux festival. This was around 2000, before anyone had heard "Sunrise" and we were all really excited about future Pulp.
I didn't have a great record collection but I was living in the US and offered to send him some American stuff that might be hard to find in the UK. I was thinking a big bag of tootsie rolls or something.
So anyway, he replied that he wanted some obscure Corey Feldmen sings Michael Jackson record from 1988. I couldn't tell if he was taking the piss or being a bit fruity. I didn't bother to reply.
In retrospect it was quite funny, but at the time I took my Pulp very seriously and was rather put out but the whole thing.
Anyway, he eventually gave Flux to a girl he fancied, who passed it on to me.
(NB: its possible I could be thinking of someone else entirely, I'm old and my memory is shot)
Scott never ripped me off but I did contact him once to offer a trade for Flux festival. This was around 2000, before anyone had heard "Sunrise" and we were all really excited about future Pulp. I didn't have a great record collection but I was living in the US and offered to send him some American stuff that might be hard to find in the UK. I was thinking a big bag of tootsie rolls or something. So anyway, he replied that he wanted some obscure Corey Feldmen sings Michael Jackson record from 1988. I couldn't tell if he was taking the piss or being a bit fruity. I didn't bother to reply. In retrospect it was quite funny, but at the time I took my Pulp very seriously and was rather put out but the whole thing. Anyway, he eventually gave Flux to a girl he fancied, who passed it on to me. (NB: its possible I could be thinking of someone else entirely, I'm old and my memory is shot)
What's your name? I have a vague recollection of someone at college asking me to get a Corey Feldman record, it could have been me, not Scott.
I'll say one thing, maybe it's just because I'm part of a generation who have grown up with the internet and having rare music easily accessible, but to me, anyone who charges money for bootlegs, demos or rare tracks in a first class cunt. I think bootleg hoarders are cunts in general tbh- I have loads of Pulp bootlegs, but my real passion is rare Belle & Sebastian stuff and although I don't want them just flying around the internet willy nilly, I will certainly send them to people when they ask me to, whether or not they have anything to trade. It breaks my heart when I go on the website of a collector who lists all these amazing bootlegs, yet the only way they'll send you them is if you can trade them some fucking Wire show from 1979.
Also, what was the craic with Weed and Fred? Was there an argument? It's a shame Fred's gone, he was a good egg. But I do love internet forums, I've never been a 'troll' but I love winding people up and generally dicking around/saying the first thing that comes into my head. Life's too short to take internet band geekery seriously.
I tend to agree, though I doubt I'm part of the same generation. The yahoo accounts were set up so people could freely share stuff. I have made the odd small contribution absolutely gratis, and would expect others to do the same. Even at a very fundamental level, had I paid a lot of money for something, my first instinct would be to redistribute freely as far and as wide as possible. It has been interesting to see stuff (mostly non-Pulp) I have leaked come up on bootleggers site, but fortunately there are a lot of people still handing it out for nowt. Alas, I never knew any sound engineers who worked with Pulp.
As for Fred, not sure why he removed his account. The thread was closed off and removed and all parties involved made up. Maybe he was a bit embarrased, but hell, if I left forums because of that I'd have been gone years ago.