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Ian wrote:

I thought of this but it does get a bit too noisy towards the end.

 "Too noisy"? But their biggest hit is Common People! biggrin



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I think that there's a difference, "Monday Morning" gets all shouty and I don't think it's radio-friendly. Of course, they could have made a radio edit where it ends 20 seconds or so earlier...

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Something Changed is a perfectly good song and conservative choice of single, but F.E.E.L.I.N.G. would have been the bold artistic and hubristic capstone of Different Class singles. The numerous remixes and the 12 inch promo suggest the band at least considered the possibility.

In many ways I think F.E.E.L.I.N.G. is the song This is Hardcore always wanted to be. Correct me if I am wrong but I believe it was Russell's favourite song on DC - and what he referred to as the "future sound of Pulp".

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Didn't it come down to Something Changed vs F.E.E.L.I.N.G.? And they plumped for Something Changed, so the CDs featured live + remixes of F.E.E.L.I.N.G. in order to give the song some additional exposure.

I do wonder if releasing F.E.E.L.I.N.G. might've aided their relationship with Russell, though. His favourites off the album were that and Live Bed Show. His issues with Pulp were too far gone to have kept him in for Hardcore, but maybe they could've roped him back in after Venini fell apart for We Love Life (although that's if they'd even have wanted to, I know he stayed friends with them but there's clearly some difficult interpersonal relationships in there).

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Didn't he dig a lot of the We Love Life material (including Wickerman making him cry?)?
Confirmation from his kitchen-table interview with Stephen Bray must be imminent any day now....

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The Wickerman story is true - there's also a deeper reason why he related to that song. All will be revealed!



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Yeah but when?!! /impatience

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All in good time! I'm typing away... the hardest part is resisting the urge to just say absolutely everything he says! It's absolute gold all the way through.

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They really did seem to hum and haw over releasing Something Changed or Feeling... as a single. It's a shame the final release was a fair misfire although the SC video is very classy. Feeling... is the statement that a number of established bands tried to make a few years later in 1997 and Pulp had already been the darker, left field act many wanted to be by that point. It would have been a big, ominous and powerful statement and would have served to further obliterate the pervading sense of glitzy cartoonishness some people associated with Pulp (I Spy on Later... actually seemed to turn a few heads in that sense)- and they actually had the clout to make that song reach the upper end of the charts- they could have SCARED some people with that. I Spy is a nasty, darker piece of work, so is Feeling... - Different Class is actually as dark and unsettling as anything in Pulp's 80s back catalogue but it's over-shone by the sparkling haze of the more visible hits of that era. It would have been a very impressive curtain call. At least they got Moloko's warped remix into the public consciousness- nice bit of peculiarity. Hmpf.



-- Edited by Sleeve on Thursday 3rd of August 2023 12:27:19 AM

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Would the label/radio playlisters have demanded a harsh radio edit of FEELING though, thus negating some of its ambitious writing and production (rhythm and ambience mainly)?
It's 6 minutes long, the vocals don't start until 01:18 and the singing/melody begins just after the 2 minute mark.

All killer after that, mind. Great pre-chorus, pre chorus ii, chorus i and chorus ii !

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For me, the obvious singles off Different Class are Common People, Disco 2000, and Mis-Shapes - then it's a toss-up between Sorted, Something Changed, FEELING and Monday Morning. Underwear could've been a good single but had already been released with Common People, while Pencil Skirt/I Spy/LBS aren't really singles. Maybe Bar Italia...



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personally I cant believe OU didnt chart. I kind of get it, long intro and all, but for me its irresistible.

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hairstyleofthedevil wrote:

personally I cant believe OU didnt chart. I kind of get it, long intro and all, but for me its irresistible.

 OU is probably my very favourite Pulp song for listening to and enjoying myself. It always puts a massive grin on my face. When the band used to play it live it was a monster that just built and built. Shame they never made a video for it. Of course, there is a radio edit of the song.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Bg486HLBNaA&pp=ygUScHVscCBvdSByYWRpbyBlZGl0



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hairstyleofthedevil wrote:

personally I cant believe OU didnt chart. I kind of get it, long intro and all, but for me its irresistible.




There is a radio edit. I think that although it probably sold a lot more than anything they had released before, it still wasn't quite enough to get into the charts. The original "Babies" didn't get into the charts either and "Razzmatazz" got to number 80 which I think was their first appearance in the charts.

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They didn't have money for a video and not much for other promo, presumably.

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