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It's at 67, so it's slowly climbing.

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Amazon Bestsellers Rank: 62 in MP3 Songs (See Top 100 in MP3 Songs)
#5 in MP3 Downloads > MP3 Songs > Indie & Alternative

It's dropped. Boo!



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Amazon Bestsellers Rank: 67 in MP3 Songs (See Top 100 in MP3 Songs)
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Down again!



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Now #66 on iTunes, just overtook Paradise by Coldplay, which is nice.

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Amazon Bestsellers Rank: 68 in MP3 Songs (See Top 100 in MP3 Songs)
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Down again! Interesting it's pretty the same 'chart position' on both charts though!



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1,29 euro for the song on itunes france ! I'll have to get it on amazon.

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and it's on spotify...

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It's down to 79 on iTunes, does look like it's peaked for now.

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Has it filtered through to non-digital radio yet?
We need a big impact hit like Lipgloss being played in the background of Audrey's salon on Coronation Street twenty odd years ago.
That's where Wossy comes in I guess (big impact wise, not that he's making a cameo on Corrie).

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It's back up to 68. Who knows, it might go higher than yesterday?

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After Jonathan Ross will be the real time to check. You'd have to presume that anybody who wanted, and knew about it, would have downloaded it by now. It'll be all about the general public after the show on saturday.

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Yeah that's what i'm waiting for. I've been wondering how high it could go after Wossy.

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Amazon Bestsellers Rank: 62 in MP3 Songs (See Top 100 in MP3 Songs)

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Amazon Bestsellers Rank: 60 in MP3 Songs (See Top 100 in MP3 Songs)
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And an odd new review. Based only on the sample!



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You have to remember that the cut-off is midnight Saturday/Sunday, so that gives viewers what, two hours to buy?

The only people I know who've played on JR had their record go down in the charts the week after - their performance was very poor though, so that might have more to do with it.



-- Edited by weej on Thursday 31st of January 2013 01:11:24 PM

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Tumbling, tumbling!

Might check the midweeks, though...

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Nothing in the midweek Top 40. Does anyone know if the midweeks go any lower than 40?

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a new tweet:



-- Edited by Perfect on Thursday 31st of January 2013 06:29:23 PM

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And up again :D

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Stephen wrote:

Nothing in the midweek Top 40. Does anyone know if the midweeks go any lower than 40?

 Midweeks are supposed to be only for "the industry" - radio 1 releasing the top 40 is the latest development, if you want to get any more info you'll have to ask a friend who works for a record company.



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The midweek was on the 'musicweek' website, so perhaps they're happier for the details to go further afield nowadays?

I think Pulp will make the Top 200 on Saturday at this rate, but not sure whether it'll crawl higher. Depends what amazon/itunes shows post-Wossy I suppose...

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It's often not the performance being poor, but more often than not the sound levels are set up all wrong. I saw Primal Scream do a terrible set on there a couple of years back, for example.

Not paid attention to the bands since Jonathan moved to ITV. Has the sound been any better generally?

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I think they put more attention into the performances generally now he's on ITV, they don't just stick a camera in front of them. Plus with the bands introing the guests I think it draws more attention.

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Byebye Top 100!

Amazon Bestsellers Rank: 91 in MP3 Songs (See Top 100 in MP3 Songs)
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how many copies do they need to sell to get to number one?

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i think it s a crying shame that pulp have not had a number one single !

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Yes but by golly wow are they tearing up all these download charts, it's a rollercoaster of excitement

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Misshape wrote:

how many copies do they need to sell to get to number one?

It's a nortiously quiet time of year for singles. You'd probably be looking at around 50,000 for a number 1. It's possible to hit the top 40 with as few as 2000. I suppose it all depends on what else it has to compete with.



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Well After You didn't make an appearance in the midweek Top 40.

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I have just bought it on MP3 from Amazon - the first legal download of my life!!

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John Earls, once of the much-missed 'Planet Sound' Ch4Teletext music pages, now with the Daily Star says:

ORIGINALLY intended for their final album in 2001, it shows that even 12-year-old demos sound magic with Jarvis Cocker on board.

Fizzing along like old smash Mis-Shapes, there's an energy here that suggests they should get back in the studio and write some new songs, sharpish.

VERDICT: 9/10





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I doubt anyone is expecting it to go top 40 - the fans have it already, other potential buyers haven't heard it. It would be nice if it did and all, but don't be disappointed when it doesn't.

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weej wrote:

I doubt anyone is expecting it to go top 40 - the fans have it already, other potential buyers haven't heard it. It would be nice if it did and all, but don't be disappointed when it doesn't.

No one is expecting it to take over the world, but I would be surprised if it didn't make Top 40 after Jonathan Ross. Would that be this Sunday or next Sunday?

1) The single sales charts are a load of rubbish these days, not many sales needed to enter it

2) There'll be a fair few in the general public who will have no idea about the single, and it being exposed on national TV will only help it.

3) Pulp's sales will probably go up generally. Look at U2's increase in sales after Glastonbury! An increase of 700%, ridiculous given that it's one of the most known bands in the world!

4) NEW FANS! People may watch it and think 'who the bloody hell are they? They're pretty good' and buy it!

Possibilities are endless people...



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I doubt anyone cares about Pulp other than their fanbase. Which is already something, but don't expect a Common People 2. It wont happen, even in the future

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I did notice on the iTunes download chart on Friday that After You was at 60 something but Common People had also entered the chart at 130 something - ish.

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But surely that's because they gave away potentially 12,000 copies?

Also with 1 promo appearance and 2 hours after to count in the downloads it wasn't likely to go far. I hope they aren't put off any future plans 'cos of it.



-- Edited by Jarvgirl on Monday 4th of February 2013 09:57:11 AM

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Pulp are really, really, really not gonna care whether the song charted or not, nor will they have expected it to. They won't be naive about the music industry, especially with Jarvis having released records over the last decade and working for 6Music, they know that a record with no promotional push is not going to get massive sales, and they'll also know that bands such as Pulp can no longer be judged on sales, especially not where the singles market is concerned.

If Pulp did another album, I'd fully expect it to go top 10, but I'd doubt that the lead single (assuming there was one, rather than just a free track to download, which would also be sent to radio) would even hit the top 40.



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Well, not only did they not get into the UK Top 100, but they didn't even make the Top 40 downloads!

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They've told people where they can buy it now on their Facebook page, a week late!

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I can see why they've only posted about it today, capitalising on the Wossy appearance

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Yeah but if you posted last Monday saying 'we're on Ross this week, by the way buy this' then it makes so much more sense to do the follow up post today like 'now you've seen it, here's those buy links again'

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Do any indie band get near the singles charts anymore? I see Biffy Clyro are straight in at number one with their new album this week and Everything Everything got to number 3 or something the other week in the album charts. But do these types of artists sell many of the lead singles, a week or two prior to the albums anymore? It doesn't seem so.
Is it because most of the fans wait until the album comes out and then download everything or because it takes far more sales to get into the singles chart?

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Eamonn wrote:

Do any indie band get near the singles charts anymore? I see Biffy Clyro are straight in at number one with their new album this week and Everything Everything got to number 3 or something the other week in the album charts. But do these types of artists sell many of the lead singles, a week or two prior to the albums anymore? It doesn't seem so.
Is it because most of the fans wait until the album comes out and then download everything or because it takes far more sales to get into the singles chart?

Just a different market these days. Often singles go on sale as soon as they're on radio, which means there is no 'release date' like there used to be. Also no physical market, plus indie bands not being seen as a huge commercial concern like they were a few years back. Of course, it could all come around again, but even that Jake Bugg (who is awful, but was last year's only breakthrough that could be considered derrivitave of indie), who had a number one album and was a big mainstream hit, currently has number 26 as his highest chart place for a single.

Another interesting thing to note is that the singles market is increasingly 'stand alone'- songs by artists which feature another artist etc and are designed as tracks rather than just being put out to shift an album. Of course, there are exceptions such as Rhianna etc 



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Pulp Feat. Kanye West - After You, Motherf***er may fair better.

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I'd be astonished if this had any bearing on anything; we're just not living in an age where singles chart positions mean what they used to mean. Whether they're any more or less important or valid is a red herring; it's just not the same as when Pulp finally made their massive mid-90s breakthrough.

Singles sales have never been higher, but that's a bigger spend spread more thinly - for a number of reasons, but mainly because of the digital revolution and the change in chart rules which means it's now possible to buy absolutely any single track and have it count for the charts. What you're getting in most cases is the exact same digital file you'd get if you bought the album download, so all but the most hardcore fans buy the album download. If it's not available yet, and if you've kept your album tightly under wraps, and if you promote, promote, promote that lead single, you might still be okay, but otherwise it's an absolute lottery as to whether you're going in at number 5 or number 195.

A couple of cases in point: the Pet Shop Boys didn't get a Top 40 single from their recent Top 10 album. Robbie Williams' follow-up to his chart-topping "Candy", "Different" - plugged to death on TV and radio over Christmas, just a couple of months later (but crucially after the album was already out) didn't go top 40 either.

Also, hi.

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Deacon Blue and Toploader(!) are currently on the Radio 2 Playlist. If that doesn't inspire hope I don't know what does.

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Steve Devereux wrote:

I'd be astonished if this had any bearing on anything; we're just not living in an age where singles chart positions mean what they used to mean. Whether they're any more or less important or valid is a red herring; it's just not the same as when Pulp finally made their massive mid-90s breakthrough.

Singles sales have never been higher, but that's a bigger spend spread more thinly - for a number of reasons, but mainly because of the digital revolution and the change in chart rules which means it's now possible to buy absolutely any single track and have it count for the charts. What you're getting in most cases is the exact same digital file you'd get if you bought the album download, so all but the most hardcore fans buy the album download. If it's not available yet, and if you've kept your album tightly under wraps, and if you promote, promote, promote that lead single, you might still be okay, but otherwise it's an absolute lottery as to whether you're going in at number 5 or number 195.

A couple of cases in point: the Pet Shop Boys didn't get a Top 40 single from their recent Top 10 album. Robbie Williams' follow-up to his chart-topping "Candy", "Different" - plugged to death on TV and radio over Christmas, just a couple of months later (but crucially after the album was already out) didn't go top 40 either.

Also, hi.

This 100%. Wish i could have put it so articluately. 



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The same reason that BBC 6 Music listeners said Cocks by Coldplay was their favourite record ever?

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That didn't really win the poll, did it?

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It did.

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/arts-entertainment/6-music-regrets-trying-to-be-good-2013020458456 - LOL

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Good to hear it's been on analogue radio. XFM didn't even playlist it.

Any major movement on the itunes and download charts since the Jonathan Ross appearance?

 

Edit: I see it went in at number 10 in the Independent chart last weekend.

Quite amusing to see a few different Adele tracks in there (Weeks on chart: 2,345,789).



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There are a couple of sellers on eBay now offering promo CDs of After You - one person has photographed the CD too and it says 'Radio Edit' - looks like Pulp are putting some effort in now towards getting radio play, if these have been pressed and distributed!

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Jo Whiley played it on Radio 2 last night. She did the "Jarvis and the band haven't ruled out any new material" line which I assume comes from the outdated quote that was rehashed in the NME recently.

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106 in Itunes and falling.

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No. 10 in the indie charts? That's quite fun!

I'm still trying to get hold of the Top 200 chart for that week. My source is a little delayed, though.

I'd like an After You promo. That would be nice, too.

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Absolute Radio's record of the week, better late than never.

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It is on the jukebox in the Old Comrades club in Fleetwood!

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Incidentally, "After You" was used as the closing montage music on Sky Sports' coverage of the Tottenham v Newcastle game last Saturday. I did an actual spit take, for old time's sake.

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I heard After You in a club last night (it sounded fantastic)

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What club?

Graham Norton played it on his Sat morning show on Radio 2 last weekend. Which was nice.

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The Borderline, just off Tottenham Court Road

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I was just browsing the RSD list on the Vinyl Collective's board when I saw THIS Pulp After You 12

I cannot say that this came as a surprise because RSD is a good platform for one off releases but I'm so glad that the song is getting a proper physical release.

Hopefuly it won't be to pricey and to limitied.

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Will there be a B-side, I wonder?

*HOPES*

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Im sure I replied to this before, and it dissapeared.......Yes there is a b-side

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Worr is it? Candy's Spectre?

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Hahaha if I ever got to hear that, I would literally be in dreamland. I have no idea what the b-side is - im led to believe that it is either gonna be another song, or a remix.

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Might be the original demo

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Ill be honest Jazza, that was my original thought - be interesting either way as if it was the original demo - I wonder if they cleaned it up?

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Presumably a remix or something. If it's another new song, I might have to invest in a better vinyl player...

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Woo!

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Awesome. Bound to be something interesting on the flipside.

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After You was on Tea Time Theme Time today - Tesco connection. Well established in the musical canon already!



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Limited to 4,000 copies. Ouch!

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Pulp - After You (2013 Record Store Day Release) - 12-inch - Produced and mixed by James Murphy. Includes Soulwax remix + dub version by Pulp.

Dub.

Great.

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Dub. Oh my. Afraid. Very.

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Yep..... this was what I was told unfortunately

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I know it's unlikely, but if anyone is going to be at one of the participating stores and can manage to grab an extra copy I'd pay full price + shipping and handling since I doubt we're going to see any copies, or very few, on this side of the pond and people are going to put them on ebay for absolutely absurd prices.

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Dub can be good, dub by Pulp might mean a load of echo effects thrown at the track to no great effect. We'll see.
Soulwax seem to do an awful lot of remixing, don't they?

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The Tom Middleton Dub remix of "Party Hard", if that is anything to go by, wasn't very interesting.

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Hi Tricia, I can't promise anything - I might need to be at work on Record Store Day - might if I'm able to camp out early enough to get my hands on a copy, I will definitely make it two and see about sending one to you!

Disappointed about the remixes, really, but Pulp themselves have only ever remixed Party Hard before (IIRC) and that was an excellent mix, so I have some hope for their version! And anyway it will be very nice to have After You on 12" whatever they put on the back.

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Any chance these will find their way into the Yahoo account? I don't own a record player!

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I think I would love to hear After You on lovely, warm vinyl. But I won't be able to camp out, sadly. If anyone's planning on it - and feeling kind - would love to get a copy, though!

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They'll probably get a few into Head in Belfast (where I live) and i'll buy as many as I can if anyone else wants one. No extra charges obviously.

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If my student loan arrives nice and promptly on the 20th like it's supposed to then I'll probably pick up a copy

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If I get a job in the next couple of weeks it'll be the twelfth thing I'll spend money on.

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After You is up for the FM4 Charts (Austrian alternative radio)

You can vote for it here



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