Bloomberg...those purveyors of reliable alternative music scoops ;)


Still, the plot is beginning to thicken again innit?

I'm gonna pee myself

Will it be new new material or like After You, properly recorded existing songs, a WLL deluxe deluxe? Jarvis said months ago he had new songs that could be Pulp songs - depending on if the collective Pulp will were there.

New Album On Its Way? hate to say i told you so ! well i predicted 2012, but im no Nostradamus, still i was (apparently) right :D ;)

Stereophonics? Stead on now!

I want a new album or I'll cry

I'll believe it when I hear it.

triciathetree wrote:

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speaking of possible new albums could anyone be more underwhelmed at the prospect of a new Stone Roses album? (cannot believe they are qualified to be top bill even ahead of Blur at an American festival to be quite honest)

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 Who knows, maybe John Squire will fall offf his bike again and someone else will be asked to do it instead.

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Stereophonics, ha, a good band gone, long gone. I didn't even know they were still making records until someone posted their new single on Facebook.

What's funny is that their new drummer looks exactly like their old drummer, that they sacked and that ended up being dead.

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I haven't enjoyed their albums since You Gotta Go There To Come Back in 2003, but the new one sounds promising. Not the single, but the other two songs they've released sound quite dark.

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I'm still mad Mani left Primal Scream to do this reunion. Sadly I would probably pay to see the Stone Roses just to see Mani as I love him a lot he's one of my favorite bassists. The Stone Roses reunion feels unnecessary in itself (they're sound has such a specific and lone gone time feeling to it) but maybe I just feel that way because I'm very neutral about them in general.

I'll still be holding my breath for a Pulp album though...

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1. 'they're sound has such a specific and lone gone time feeling to it' This statement makes me feel very old.

2. You really have a thing for bassists don't you!

saw119 wrote:

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triciathetree wrote:

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I'm still mad Mani left Primal Scream to do this reunion. Sadly I would probably pay to see the Stone Roses just to see Mani as I love him a lot he's one of my favorite bassists. The Stone Roses reunion feels unnecessary in itself (they're sound has such a specific and lone gone time feeling to it) but maybe I just feel that way because I'm very neutral about them in general.

I'll still be holding my breath for a Pulp album though...

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1. 'they're sound has such a specific and lone gone time feeling to it' This statement makes me feel very old.

2. You really have a thing for bassists don't you!

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 Can I clarify that I'm not ATTRACTED to Mani I just really like him!! Also yes I can't think of many bassists I don't like (except Alex James comes to mind but he's actually a really good bassist I just think he's a moron)

Not to make you feel older but I had another year to be born when the Stone Roses released their first album.

I feel old now! I was 22 when that came out!!!! I worked in HMV at the time, I remember stickering up 500 of the fuckers, and we opened at midnight so folk could come and buy them on the monday at 00.01

but if there was new material (either totally new or unreleased old stuff) why haven't they tried any of it out live?

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A whole album of redone unreleased songs? Yes please. The version we have of 'Rattlesnake' is fine, though. How about 'Snow' and 'My First Wife' - and maybe another go at 'We Can Dance Again'?

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Not something I'd be particularly interested in. I don't see what's wrong with the versions of most songs we already have. How could a re-recorded Rattlesnake with Jean cook(?) on violin be better or more interesting than the original? Also, Jarvis has shown time and again that he doesn't know the lyrics to his old song through his use of Pulp Wiki for Mother, Brother, Lover so I think the lyrics to Snow are probably lost in the mists of time. I expect the same goes for My First Wife et al and anyway which My First Wife should they re-record; version 1 or 2? I suppose My First Wife 1 has lyrics that are re-used in David's Last Summer, Live On and My Legendary Girlfriend so it rules that one out.

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Don't think Srpski Jeb had a violin did it?

Quite right, on both counts - I had actually meant "Rattlesnake"

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 so I think the lyrics to Snow are probably lost in the mists of time. I expect the same goes for My First Wife et al and anyway which My First Wife should they re-record; version 1 or 2? I suppose My First Wife 1 has lyrics that are re-used in David's Last Summer, Live On and My Legendary Girlfriend so it rules that one out.

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I think of My First Wife as being version 2. Version 1 is "that other song with the same name".

I mean, I have known version 2 for years, but version 1 is almost new to me. They're both solid songs though.

They should definitely re-record Back In LA, and Nights Of Suburbia.

Songs they should revisit : We Can Dance Again, WLL sessions. No more, after that it's a bit too old and don't really fit Pulp 2012 i think. And some songs mentionned above, i mean, many band members weren't even there when they were written

Plus i have mixed feeling about this: a new record filled with old tracks would seem a bit like they didn't manage to write some new cool tunes. After You was a cool surprise, but they should probably separate old tracks on an EP and do an LP with fresh songs.

-- Edited by andy on Sunday 3rd of February 2013 07:41:02 AM

What did she know about a new album though? ;)

Jarv did day though that he had been writing songs that could be new Pulp songs. I know that he says a lot of things and that he can't help himself but write songs all the time, but I thought that was an interesting thing for him to say and then backtrack on.

Yeah for the fans I guess it won't be a problem if they did an album comprised of reworkings of older songs. I'm not sure it would matter for the general public either though as the reworking of 'After You', for example, has a very contemporary feel and sound. I'd love to have a better quality version of 'Maureen' and 'Sickly Grin' but don't think I'd want them to go changing those songs or anything I'll be interested to hear more either way whether it's new material or harking back to the past. We'll have to wait and see

Fuck me! The Bloomberg guy has just replied to my "So are you saying it's a guess?" Tweet. "On Pulp the guy who told me has given accurate tipoffs before, on Stone Roses, Guns N Roses, Suede and more...".

Replied with "We'll let's hope he adds Pulp to that list." And got this direct message: 

"If not sorry to have raised hopes. I don't like to be proved wrong by giving false tips either so come on Jarvis, we love ya!"

-- Edited by Jarvgirl on Monday 4th of February 2013 12:06:59 AM

-- Edited by Jarvgirl on Monday 4th of February 2013 12:07:40 AM

Maybe they didn't intend on releasing After You? It was Jarv's idea to give it out as a present to us lot at Sheffield, the idea to release it might have come later.

I for one look forward to their jazz-fusion version of Party Hard on the next record.

"On poss Pulp comeback: all can say is it came from a music exec who's usually right. Hope he is, 4 what it's worth, maybe this time he's not"

Fuck sake, he's a Bloomberg employee. Best sticking to analysing derivatives an'shit.

I agree, they're obviously plotting something.


But that tweet is the biggest backtrack I've seen so far this year. (Yes I said this year, I don't want to have to backtrack on my backtrack statement.)

I imagine, if they are working on further material, that Pulp will have only told those who have to know what they're doing and in turn told them to keep as mum as possible about it, "music exec" or otherwise. The band clearly prefer to keep things under wraps for as long as possible.

I must say, a reworked album of unreleased stuff is not a bad guess/suggestion. I think Jarvis was pleasantly surprised at the unreleased material when he was compiling the deluxe editions a few years ago.
When asked about new material they've moaned about how long it takes for them to write...they clearly still rate some of the old stuff as the interesting setlists in 2012 showed.

Maureen/Going Back To Find Her/My First Wife/My Second Wife would all hold-up to new recordings, maybe more 80's stuff too that we've never heard.
Add on the best of the 1999-2000 demos... it would be great.

I'd much prefer brand new stuff. I quite admire the fact that until now with After You (and I guess when Babies was re-released) Pulp have never recycled old material, always starting with a new slate. But if it's old stuff redone or nothing I'd definitely take it.

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...old stuff redone...

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1. The Quiet Revolution
2. The Performance of a Lifetime
3. St Just
4. Roald Dahl
5. My Mistake
6. M'Lady
7. Grown Ups
8. Heart Trouble
9. Got to Have Love
10. Darren
11. Cuckoo Song
12. After You 
13. Grandfather's Nursery

That would do nicely...

At the very least a deluxe We Love Life is a bit closer now, surely.

Hurry up and get to 1000 sigs on the Pulpwiki petition and let's get it off to Universal telling them that Pulp have effectively promoted such a project with the release of After You.

I do think the suggestion of them revisiting songs that half of them don't feature on - and that the other half have probably forgotten - from the 80s is pretty fanciful.

The idea of 'finishing off' WLL must be rather more compelling, though...

My Lighthouse/Dogs/Back To LA/Little Girl/DYWMA/Countdown/an, er, snippet of Master of the Universe were all played in 2012 so I think all bets are off at this stage.

Had managed to erase from my memory the fact that Don't You Want Me Anymore was played.

Grr.

For 'good' songs (as opposed to novelty ones) it's only that and His 'n' Hers that I missed hearing on the reunion tour. Not bad going. But still quite frustrating!

Asked and answered. Completely missed that. Thanks. 

Ah forgot DYWMA, too sad they never played it in the UK last year. They also rehearsed Love Is Blind by the way!

I was the same, I wanted pre not post-Different Class songs as I saw them live so many times first time around. Still gutted I haven't heard OU live

Thinking about it, I left the Motorpoint with much more a sense of 'wow' than Brixton thought that's due to the slightly emotional ending. But that's not to say Brixton was my best concert of my life up until then.

For me personally - Wireless was quite exciting, as I had not been to Hyde Park before, and it was the first time I would get to hear more or less all of Different Class live. There was an element of dissapointment with no encore, and very little in the way of His n Hers / WLL. The morning after came the announcement of Brixton !!! Slept in a nice hotel too!

Brixton night one... seen the intro before, still sends shivers down my spine - especially when you are literally crushed at the front with PQ and her mates....to hear Countdown, OU, Wickerman, Bad Cover Version, Have You Seen Her Lately, Razzmatazz, Lipgloss alongside other songs that had been played prior - this to me was the far superior gig as it was indoors, intimate, and sounded fucking amazing where as Hyde Park the audio was in and out all the time. To top it off I slept in a converted warehouse that had mini flats inside, and it was in a very run down state - bit like a squat, however it was fun !

Sheffield - a weird feeling about this one, "the last" pulp gig - once again met up with PQ, her fella who is a top bloke, Richard, Tegan, two other lasses cant remember their names but they were able to out drink me haha. The notices on the walls "this concert is recorded etc"......the christmas cards..... and for this gig I was in the upper balcony seats - however not once was I ever parked on my ass ! For me, the setlist was a little bit dissapointing - a huge void of His n Hers material again - but with it being a homecoming, I suppose it was apt for it to be Different Class orientated. Am I odd for actually not being a huge fan of Different Class? A little Soul, My Lighthouse, Little Girl were all HUGE surprises for me, and also Born To Cry - Sheffield Sex City was predictable, and what a stormer of a song that turned out to be.

Out of the 3 gigs, Brixton was the most exciting. Wireless was overwhelming as it was "the comeback", and Sheffield was as if "it hadnt finished yet"......didnt seem final.

dixie999 wrote:

 Am I odd for actually not being a huge fan of Different Class? 

No.  I prefer His 'n' Hers, Hardcore and Intro (even if it's not a proper album).  It's not that I dislike Different Class, I think it is a great album, but the others matter far more to me.  I like it more than We Love Life and Spearations, but not by that much.

The Brixton gig was incredible as a fan, but RAH was a really good event and although the set wasn't quite as good, I think it was probably better for those who aren't so obsessive.  My first (and only ) wife said it was the best gig she'd ever seen, and from what I overheard from people leaving there was more avid discussion of the gig than the Brixton one.  A lot of people went for the cause as much as the band and from what I heard they were very impressed.

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dixie999 wrote:

 Am I odd for actually not being a huge fan of Different Class? 

No.  I prefer His 'n' Hers, Hardcore and Intro (even if it's not a proper album).  It's not that I dislike Different Class, I think it is a great album, but the others matter far more to me.  I like it more than We Love Life and Spearations, but not by that much.

 

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 I subscribe to a theory that enjoyment of a song/album follows the formula:

enjoyment = innate quality / exposure

where innate quality is obviously in the eye of the beholder. So if I hear Disco 2000 come on the radio, my heart sinks a little, then I remember that I do really like the song, just maybe not quite enough for the amount of times I've heard it. Conversely hearing more of a rarity is more of a novelty and may produce a more positive response than it might really merit - maybe it was a rarity for a reason! But if you also add in any personal significance something might have for you, that would skew the result, so maybe we need:

enjoyment = (innate quality x personal significance^2) / exposure

Obviously I love all the songs from Different Class I reckon it's more a feeling of wanting to hear some different songs live as DC has been played live a lot. I suppose though, is they did drop some different class for something else then we'd pick fault elsewhere. Glastonbury was my favourite for shere excitement & atmosphere. Brixton in terms of what they played & how well they played it. The bar was set high with Brixton but Albert Hall & Sheffield follow very closely behind.

Other shows that looked amazing from where I was sitting were LA & radio city music hall - that's an almost perfect setting for Pulp with its grand stage & sweeping curtains.

Well, I'm beginning to doubt it again now.

It was all looking so promising, but this silence isn't good. You'd think an album announcement would come off the back of After You, but it already feels as though too much time has passed.

Seems like Wossy may have just asked 'em to do it 'cos he likes 'em and now they've all gone back to their day jobs. If they were recording at the moment and speculation was rife that a new album would be coming out I'm sure that Jarvis would have been papped, or just iPhoned, entering a recording studio by now.

I'm the only one who thinks the cruise wasn't a weird thing aren't I? Oh dear. I just think the sailing off into the sunset thing was quite apt! (I'm not saying that there being a festival on a cruise isn't weird.) but then they come back and do more things and then leave us hanging again! I can't cope!

I don't think they're that influenced by the fickle nature of modern commercial musical trends which are dictated to teenagers and fans of karaoke tv. The singles charts are an abomination these days - bands, new or established, barely get a look-in anymore.

The track got great reviews, decent airplay on digital and alternative radio and a smattering across the main channels. All for an old song re-done. Can't imagine how anyone would be gutted at that.

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If they were recording at the moment and speculation was rife that a new album would be coming out I'm sure that Jarvis would have been papped, or just iPhoned, entering a recording studio by now.

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Surely Jarvis has fingers in so many pies these days - producing Serafina Steer, all the various spoekn word bits and bobs that appear, kids' stories and what have you, vocals for the likes of Discodeine and Erol Alkan ... - that merely being seen near a recording studio need not have any great significance and set off any media frenzies? Or am I being too logical, the media don't need a reason for a frenzy after all.