But Shotoki, the crowd reactions when they do play old song (even OU at Brixton) is largely that of a very dead crowd. They'll take it as an indication - quite rightly - that most people don't want to hear "obscurities".
I disagree, I think people appreciate the obscurities more than they appear to. Sometimes its more a case of stopping to really listen rather than going crazy, dancing, and singing along etc. There is always a huge applause afterwards and thats the important thing. I personally don't express obvious joy to any of the songs (apart from clapping at the end) but that doesn't mean I don't want to hear them.
But yeah, maybe Pulp won't see it that way
-- Edited by shotoki on Thursday 20th of December 2012 09:02:15 PM
Mis-Shape, live they've certainly been good, but can they really carry on playing those old, old songs? If there's no new music, then they can't feasibly carry on unfortunately. Jarvis is a songwriter (as well as a performer) and if Pulp aren't the vessel for his new songs anymore, then we can't really expect him to keep them together for the sake of songs he wrote over 10 years ago...
Totally agree. I would love them to continue but only if the band really want to. Then they will definitely require some new material. I have a slight feeling they may have quietly recorded some new songs. However it is my nature to be extremely optimistic.
Jarvis is a songwriter, so even if this is the end of Pulp, I wouldnt be surprised to see Jarvis record another Solo Album. But totally agree with Misshape Pulp have been on top form since their reunion.
Yeah I agree as well. Without new material, people aren't going to be interested in going to see the same songs over and over for another year or two years or however long. I really want the Christmas surprise to be a new song, but I'm not holding my breath. If Pulp don't do something together, Jarvis will definitely put out another album sometime in the near future.
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Jarvis definitely said earlier in the year he had song in mind, and they could be Pulp songs i.e. that would depend on the rest of them. So as several people have said, he has to have an outlet for his song-writing. Nick didn't really leave a whole lot of ambiguity in his Radio Sheffield interview a few months back - playing live at weekend fetivals is huge fun, lucrative and fits in with the rest of his life. Recording is hard graft of a kind he didn't display any appetite for. So Jarv's songs look like they will have to find another home.
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But Shotoki, the crowd reactions when they do play old song (even OU at Brixton) is largely that of a very dead crowd. They'll take it as an indication - quite rightly - that most people don't want to hear "obscurities".
Would love to hear them do HnH in its entirety at some point, though...
A week of album shows at intimate 500-800 capacity venues in London and Sheffield. Say:
Night 1: Early Era/Separations Night 2: Intro/HisnHers Night 3: This Is Hardcore + assorted others for encore (featuring Anne Dudley and orchestra) Night 4: We Love Life + as TIH
They've rehearsed most of the back catalogue, it'd be great. Flogging a reunion to death say the press but fook them.
Still a little disappointed they haven't done any very intimate shows, that's the one thing I think they should have done differently during this reunion. Just one or two warm-ups maybe, they did a show at St. Martins College and stuff, but not much for the hardcore fans!
I don't think they'll return, and infact the whole 'sailing off into the sunset' has made sense to me recently, where as before the S.S. Coachella thing was a little baffling. In two minds about new material, on one hand it would be brilliant to hear some new songs, however I wouldn't want them to ruin their legacy.
They really have to come back, if they do, with new songs. A Pulp tour with bsides only or album track by track would be a bad idea, and it would fail. Most of the crowd isnt interested in Pulp and went to the gigs only because they knew they would play DC tracks. They have to concentrate on the fans, EG write new songs.
I think new albums in the current climate are extremely risky for a band like Pulp. It's all very well saying that they've earned enough money from the reuinion to fund new material bu the probably don't want to take the massive risk that would entail. Think about it, they don't actually have a record contract. Even the DVD release is a gamble. Will it come out through Sheffield Vision (Beat Is The Law) or some other? That might give us a clue as to who they're in bed with at the moment. Everyone knows that the money in the music business is tied up in the 'live experience' these days and not in the actual music itself.
I think new albums in the current climate are extremely risky for a band like Pulp. It's all very well saying that they've earned enough money from the reuinion to fund new material bu the probably don't want to take the massive risk that would entail. Think about it, they don't actually have a record contract. Even the DVD release is a gamble. Will it come out through Sheffield Vision (Beat Is The Law) or some other? That might give us a clue as to who they're in bed with at the moment. Everyone knows that the money in the music business is tied up in the 'live experience' these days and not in the actual music itself.
It will be interesting to see how the new Suede album does when it comes out, especially with them trying to re-create their sound from older albums. Might give us a small idea of how Pulp would do!
They really have to come back, if they do, with new songs. A Pulp tour with bsides only or album track by track would be a bad idea, and it would fail. Most of the crowd isnt interested in Pulp and went to the gigs only because they knew they would play DC tracks. They have to concentrate on the fans, EG write new songs.
Think you're being a bit unfair on them, they're not one-hit wonders. Most of the Brixton crowd (5,000) would have known and appreciated the vast majority of the setlists played there. Album shows would go down really well with the many fans of albums like HnH or TIH. They would definitely manage to fill venues of less than a thousand for these albums in London and maybe somewhere up north. Not going to happen but it would be nice.
I think new albums in the current climate are extremely risky for a band like Pulp. It's all very well saying that they've earned enough money from the reuinion to fund new material bu the probably don't want to take the massive risk that would entail. Think about it, they don't actually have a record contract. Even the DVD release is a gamble. Will it come out through Sheffield Vision (Beat Is The Law) or some other? That might give us a clue as to who they're in bed with at the moment. Everyone knows that the money in the music business is tied up in the 'live experience' these days and not in the actual music itself.
Any label would be happy to fund or distribute the record, it's a massive act in the music business. I guess Rough Trade is likely to get the deal, if there's one.
Given the news I read today on Tricia's blog, I doubt it would be practical or indeed fair if a certain member of Pulp was to continue touring into the new year.
Given the news I read today on Tricia's blog, I doubt it would be practical or indeed fair if a certain member of Pulp was to continue touring into the new year.
What's that then? Webbo gonna be a daddio? Or Steve? You both should be their respective PAs.