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Do any of you pulpers know whether there is any footage of concerts from the freaks era? Apart from those included in the lost tapes / "the beat is the law". It'd be interesting to see stuff like "they suffocate at night" live. I guess it's too much to ask this, but you never know. Let's dream. 

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"the lost tapes"? What are these? There's no pre '91 Pulp footage in circulation other than the '85 gig on Beat, and Mark of the Devil from Dolebusters. More did/does(?) exist, but it ain't in circulation!

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Yeah, that's the one I mentioned, the gig at Chesterfield. It's called the lost tapes as Russel found it doing up the cellar at his home. Then it was included in the dvd the beat is the law. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PMuE49d6Dw)... and I read that there is some footage circulating. Maybe it's a total sham, though you never know.



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There are odds and ends buried deep in the Pulp archives - a camcorder video of Chesterfield 1986 (with Jarvis in the wheelchair), and a professional multi-camera film from The Day That Never Happened in 1988. Steven Havenhand reckons someone filmed them at the Limit in 1987 too. None of it circulates though, and I feel fairly confident in saying none of us will ever get to see any of it!

The most likely thing to surface would probably be the full concert from Dolebusters in '85. It was definitely filmed and there must be a few copies out there.

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I guess Webbo would be the man with any/all of this, no?

Re The Day That Never Happened footage, director Eve Wood mentioned in one of her podcasts while doing promo for TBITL that Jarvis has the footage for this in his basement/loft and she expressed hope that one day it would get out. I guess it's in b/w though judging from the very brief clip of Death II shown on the Hits DVD.

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that sounds good and bad at the same time...I'm too far (and no one) to do a pledge for those videos. I guess as Sturdy says, we'll never see them.

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The lack of Dolebusters is easily the most frustrating of these. Ho hum.

Did we find out how it was that Mark of the Devil survived to end up on Beat is the Law?

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Dolebusters 85 and 86 were released on video locally, here in Sheffield. In fact the library had copies of them until fairly recently but sadly no longer. They must still be in some militant leftist, music fans collection. Itis also entirely possible that the raw footage exists somewhere.

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I think one of the 'it' era shows was filmed also. Crucible studio '83..

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Jason, I'd have thought that if that gig still existed, we'd have seen at least a smidgen of it on the 'Hits' DVD.

But that assumes that Jarvis could find a copy, of course!

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Maybe Saskia would have a copy? Did anyone mention the re-hersal footage of 'The mark of the devil' included on the hits dvd? its great innit?



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Spot on Jason, in the Sheffield Bands 84-85 I'd forgotten about that and it is brilliant. I suppose when you think about it there is a fair amount of footage out there if you collect it all together.

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anyway, do any of you have access to Saskia, or Jarvis secret library? I think I is sort of hard to get that material. I will pray to get them around though. Thank you guys for your answers. 



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No!

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Aye, Claudius.
It'll take more than a Roman Emperor to get their hands on the Cocker children's old music memorabilia.

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Eammon, The short b&w clip of death2 is from a leadmill show 1991. Its from the same source as the Separations/Countdown & babies footage as extras on the beat is the law dvd. Its anyones' guess why  the death2 clip is in b&w?  As for the day that never happened, its all in glorious technicolour, Only footage sort of available is a video for 'Death goes to the disco.. One day hopefully  all this will appear. I know the show was a bit of a balls up  but the audio is magic if you separate it from the visuals. 



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Tease!

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