I thought I read that Further Complications was the bestselling Cocker-related album since Hardcore. 

What's the difference between something like this and a proper single? This can chart in the UK, can't it? 

- Nevermind, they aren't selling it, so I guess charting sales will be tough. 

I just heard Nemone on Radio 6 promising to play the track later on her show today - before 1pm! Probably while I'm driving my mum to the station with no digital radio in the car, never mind.

PulpBristol wrote:

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According to Q magazine it was 'recently recorded' with LCD Soundsystem's James Murphy. He's also working with Arcade Fire on their new album!

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 Is that on the Q website or a new edition of the magazine?

seductivebarry wrote:

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Am I the only one seeing as a way to gauge opinion on whether to do new material?

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 But they don't really need to do that do they.

saw119 wrote:

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seductivebarry wrote:

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Am I the only one seeing as a way to gauge opinion on whether to do new material?

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 But they don't really need to do that do they.

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saw119 wrote:

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seductivebarry wrote:

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Am I the only one seeing as a way to gauge opinion on whether to do new material?

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 But they don't really need to do that do they.

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I dunno, they've always been insecure buggers when it comes to recording.

seductivebarry wrote:

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saw119 wrote:

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seductivebarry wrote:

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Am I the only one seeing as a way to gauge opinion on whether to do new material?

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 But they don't really need to do that do they.

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I dunno. Jarvis's solo stuff didn't really sell to well and WLL and Hits both were disappointing. The live shows have been a success but there's been lots of chat about being happy not having to do media to sell stuff etc. I think they would want to be sure before throwing themselves into it. After You may also be the band making sure they can still do it. Which is a big fat yes.

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 Don't forget their supreme lack of confidence as a band _ I read that yet again pretty recently, I think in connection with the Sheffield show and Jarvis talking about how nervous he always is playing there - "We were never a very confident band". When he was wittering on about it being good of us all to turn up  and be so nice to them, I thought that was very heartfelt and not just being polite to the audience. If they haven't entirely dismissed making any new material, I wouldn't be at all surprised at them testing the water like this with a free gift. And I don't think anyone would expect it not to leak into the public domain, though it doesn't have to follow that that was the whole intention in the first place, in some Alistair Campbell-like fashion.

Frisko2000 wrote:

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I thought I read that Further Complications was the bestselling Cocker-related album since Hardcore. 

 

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Hmm, maybe in the US. But We Love Life would have sold close to 50k copies (one week in the top ten, two weeks in the top forty). Further Comps peaked at 19 but for his solo career he's on Rough Trade who have managed him for twenty years and they're an independent label so big-sales is not something that either party would be overly bothered about.

For all the disastrous chart position of Hits it still went on, eventually, to go Gold - 100,000 units. Granted, the majority would have been in heavily discounted HMV sales but then so are a lot of big-selling compilations.

If they were to release a record in the current climate replicating the "failure" of WLL would not be bad going in terms of sales. Content is mostly consumed via torrents, youtube hits and spotify plays now. Once Apple launch a streaming service to rival the others, paying a quid for a download is going to be an alien concept to the 16-25 market - traditionally the ones who buy singles the most. Even now you're seeing established indie/guitar bands peaking at really low chart positions when it comes to singles.

An album could still do moderately well but any money-making will for the foreseeable future be tied-up in gigging all over the world like they've done for most of the last 18 months. And I can't see them, Candida anyway at least, doing all that again.

Re After You, I'm a bit surprised that they've resurrected an old song and re-recorded it. I don't think they've ever done that before. Quite admirable really - a clean slate for every era. I hope if any more comes of this surprise, we at least get all the unheard songs from 1999-2000 out of this.