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saw119


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Just read it and it does seem pretty final doesn't it? In that usual vague Pulp way that they have. Bit disappointed that they will be 'sailing off into the sunset' (one last, big payday?) and the news has knocked me a bit but that seems to be it. The news doesn't come from some obscure French mag though, it's a quote from Q so should be pretty easy to check if anyone is passinbg by a WH Smiths this afternoon.



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Oh well... at least we got to see them live one last time. I suppose they didnt have the right material to make that comeback. 



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http://www.nme.com/news/pulp/67398?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=pulp



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Saw this below. Don't really trust the NME, and as they're quoting an interview in another magazine, credibility is stretched a little.
But still, I don't see them making any more music together. They've had enough time, and if they were we would've gotten wind of it by now, so it shouldn't be a surprise anyway.


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I don't think Pulp would ever announce a split properly because they never will call time for good. They'll be back for more shows I'm sure, but it could be years again.

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Again, I don't really trust the NME but this is what I was expecting anyway. If they're going to say anything else on the subject I'd imagine it'd be at the sheffield show.

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It's not about trusting NME, they're just quoting from the new edition of Q.
It is odd though that in the filmed interview for Q at their awards ceremony last month Jarvis was a lot more coy and said he was just going to avoid the question. Presumably they had more of a chat with him later and he was more forthcoming.

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Well coxon ruled out a new blur album as well. What a cool day :(

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So the Jamaica cruise may be the last ever Pulp shows. Plenty of rooms still available.

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I bet there is...

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its very Pulp of them to just sort of sail off into the sunset - never wanted it to turn out like the pixies reunion thingy - they were going around the world for about 6 years playing doooolittle....

would have loved a final hurrah to see them but I always thought my time with them last year was going to be it, so I made sure I took it all in and totally appreciated when they were standing right in front of me.


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Andy, if you recheck Graham's twitter, he does state later that it was his 'alter ego' Mark Coxon who stated that.

Yes...grabbing at straws :)

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Being a Pulp fan can be testing at times. My advice is live in the moment & don't expect anything until it there in front of you. Same goes for that bloody Blur album which has been on and off more times that I care to mention.

The Pulp reunion has been amazing & the acclaim they have recieved is well deserved but they can't carry on touring for much longer without new material so for that reason it's right they should bow out gracefully before they outstay their welcome.

Sheffield will be an emotional but celebratory show, I'm sure. Be there, six o clock (by the fountain down the road).

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Andy, if you recheck Graham's twitter, he does state later that it was his 'alter ego' Mark Coxon who stated that.

Yes...grabbing at straws :)

 Yeah i got a bit carried away here, Coxon says a lot of shitty stuff on twitter. It's not the first time

 

Anyway, now that it's done, maybe we'll see and hear another batch of unreleased stuff, like the WLL sessions... let's hope



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Cutcopy, I agree. Also I think that, even if I could get to this gig, I wouldn't be expecting it to live up to Brixton or Glasto (even Rah paled in comparison). Given the size of the venue, it could well be like an indoor Wireless. Enormodomes aren't the best place to see you favourite bands.

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Surely they won't want their last concert to be on a ferry with most of their biggest fans not having the money to see them. I just don't believe this is the very end and to be honest am still hoping for new material at Sheffield - just imagine how much of a surprise that would be!! (I know it is extremely unlikely).

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Even i lost faith. and i was the biggest supporter of that new material theory. They seemed to be having a good time in Paris but it was 50/50 really, i guess they feel the pressure is too high for their old bodies.

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i guess they feel the pressure is too high for their old bodies.

 Nah, 69 year old Scott Walker has a new album out next week (oddly, there were 11 year gaps between his last 3...here's to hoping!)



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Ooh I dunno, I think this could be as special as Glasto, even if the venue isn't a special. I certainly think it'll eclipse Wireless

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i guess they feel the pressure is too high for their old bodies.

 Nah, 69 year old Scott Walker has a new album out next week (oddly, there were 11 year gaps between his last 3...here's to hoping!)

 From what I heard on the radio this morning, Mick Jagger is as hyperactive as ever at 69 - apparently he "moves like Jagger", fancy that.



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I dunno, Liltman. It's that yawning chasm between audience and band that helps to kill the atmosphere I think. And nob heads in the audience. It's the latter that partially ruined Wireless for me. I'll stop moaning now.

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I know what you mean, the least enjoyable Pulp gig I've ever been to was, it's probably no coincidence, the only arena show I saw them do, back in 96. After seeing them pushed up against the bars a few months earlier it was a bit of a letdown to be so far away. But I think the setlist and fact it's going to be their last gig over here for the forseeable will make it better than Wireless.

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I still feel they should do a free warm-up gig at Leadmill if it is to be a 'final goodbye'.

E-mail everybody on here with some kind of unique code, then those in the local area can go and get a couple of tickets each or whatever. Obviously that wouldn't be many people but then announce the gig publically at 9am on the day. Do what the Stone Roses did for their Warrington gig, and insist that everyone who gets a ticket must own either a ticket from a previous gig or an item of Pulp merchandise. I'm sure you'd sell 800 in a day doing that - especially if it was free.

That way, it's a brilliant intimate venue with a lot of meaning for the band, and you'll only really have relatively hardcore fans of the band. Seems like a great place to do old/rare stuff before a slightly more greatest hits set at the arena.

 

EDIT: Obviously I wouldn't realistically be able to go living down South, just showing my selfless side here...



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I'm hoping it's another hiatus until a new record....

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Fran wrote:
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i guess they feel the pressure is too high for their old bodies.

 Nah, 69 year old Scott Walker has a new album out next week (oddly, there were 11 year gaps between his last 3...here's to hoping!)

 From what I heard on the radio this morning, Mick Jagger is as hyperactive as ever at 69 - apparently he "moves like Jagger", fancy that.

Jarvis will probably go on as a solo artist and jump less onstage, he's given it all for Pulp coz there was a few gigs but he cant do that for a whole tour. Or he would have to do cardio and stuff like that prior to the tour.

As for Mick Jagger, he's a joke since the 80s, i wouldnt want Pulp ending up like that.



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Jarvis will probably go on as a solo artist and jump less onstage

 Hmmm, maybe. You know I'm not convinced.



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i cried for hours when I read this.

Please please please record another album.



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Jarvis will probably go on as a solo artist and jump less onstage

 Hmmm, maybe. You know I'm not convinced.

 

why is that ? wasnt there a girl pretending to be on a future recording of his ? 

Jarvis just cant stop doing music. 



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Nothing more than a feeling really. This whole Pulp reunion has the feeling of a last hurrah in many ways. In the Q interview he expresses the opinion that no new album means no promotion or slogging around doing PR. He hasn't released any new music since 2009 and I'm not sure I really believe that vague story about that girl being on a new recording. I can see him concentrating on doing some production work if he fancies it and maybe some guest vocal spots would probably suit him. So my opinion is just as vague as anyone elses but y'know doing his radio show, making documentaries, producing music, editing books and a few guest vocal spots. Why wouldn't he be happy with that?

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It's a beautiful suggestion PulpBristol and very well thought out. I'm having a panic now, I don't know where any of my old Pulp tickets are (I'm always paranoid about these things and not being a 'real' fan or something)! The only one I can lay my hands on is the ticket to the aftershow party from '95, maybe that and a badge would do if push comes to shove and your lovely idea comes true.

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So my opinion is just as vague as anyone elses but y'know doing his radio show, making documentaries, producing music, editing books and a few guest vocal spots. Why wouldn't he be happy with that?

 

Because he's a songwriter more than any of this. Sooner or later, the pile of songs will be too much to bear and the satisfaction of being something else won't be enough. He's a performer, a musician and nothing can top that. It happened to a lot of musicians in the past, trying something else. Lennon, Harrison are the obvious ones, recently Albarn, Neil Hannon or Crispian Mills. But they, in the end, all went back to music making solo records or with their main band. Coz for a songwriter, not releasing songs and performing them in public is like an unborn child. It has to come out eventually.



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Yeah, it's a similar situation to when they split before and Jarvis went to France to be a dad. A few years later he couldn't help but do some solo stuff

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Indeed, it might just come less and less.

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Being a Pulp fan can be testing at times. My advice is live in the moment & don't expect anything until it there in front of you. Same goes for that bloody Blur album which has been on and off more times that I care to mention.

The Pulp reunion has been amazing & the acclaim they have recieved is well deserved but they can't carry on touring for much longer without new material so for that reason it's right they should bow out gracefully before they outstay their welcome.

Sheffield will be an emotional but celebratory show, I'm sure. Be there, six o clock (by the fountain down the road).

 

I agree 100%!! I think that perhaps we're being a little selfish here... we're SO lucky that Pulp reformed, so lucky that the gigs have been amazing and aimed and both casual and hardcore fans, and so lucky that they've kept the reunion going for 18 months. The same goes with Blur- I never thought I'd see them play live, nevermind get two new singles from them.

You've just got to take what you're given- the important thing is that Pulp haven't done anything bad, they haven't tarnished their legacy in any way, and they're not creating any kind of media hype by saying "We're DEFINITELY finishing at the end of this year". I reckon Pulp will be back for more shows at some point, when the time is right. Who knows! That's why I love Pulp. This has been the best reunion in the history of reunions!



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Yeah, apart from the mystery occasionally getting irritating they've handled it really well and I bet they've even surprised themselves with the success and acclaim they've achieved. And the performances have been as good if not better than past shows I've been to. Definitely my favourite reunion as it reminded me just how much I love this band. In fact I love them more than I did when I was sixteen

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Lets hope some rarities get released then at least.

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Thats something I cant fathom - the huge resounding success of the reunion tour, and no release of any other material whether it be old, new or whatever - nothing!!!

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Apart from the Fire reissues and the, er, Party Clowns live CD but yeah, nowt really official/from Universal.

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It made me sad to read this, the untrue studio rumours kicking about kinda got me secretly hoping for something new. Plus the whole interviews, promo and tour business isn't the best excuse, they could have done an album and toured something to the tune of what they did last year and it would have been great. Teasing the possibility of future gigs is a bastard though...

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So the Jamaica cruise may be the last ever Pulp shows. Plenty of rooms still available.

 Kinda like the words in the notes for 'HITS' Something about sailing away. Not knowing where you will end up. 



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Yeah, that was the first thing that struck me when I first heard of the cruise. And Jarvis is a sucker for "signs" like that.



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So my opinion is just as vague as anyone elses but y'know doing his radio show, making documentaries, producing music, editing books and a few guest vocal spots. Why wouldn't he be happy with that?

 

Because he's a songwriter more than any of this. Sooner or later, the pile of songs will be too much to bear and the satisfaction of being something else won't be enough. He's a performer, a musician and nothing can top that. It happened to a lot of musicians in the past, trying something else. Lennon, Harrison are the obvious ones, recently Albarn, Neil Hannon or Crispian Mills. But they, in the end, all went back to music making solo records or with their main band. Coz for a songwriter, not releasing songs and performing them in public is like an unborn child. It has to come out eventually.

 I'm just being a pessimistic misery. I understand everything you say and agree with you but the key word in your answer is 'eventually' that what worries me.



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VoxPop wrote:
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So the Jamaica cruise may be the last ever Pulp shows. Plenty of rooms still available.

 Kinda like the words in the notes for 'HITS' Something about sailing away. Not knowing where you will end up. 

 

"Our ship sails away on the morrow, bound for distant shores. When we reach our destination, no-one knows, but rest assured:

 

We'll be in touch."



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I hope the ticket buyers are aware that Pulp don't know what time they're getting to the destination...

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Let's hope they dont end up lost in the Bermuda triangle... or maybe that was the plan all along

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But Jarvis, you forgot this....

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To be fair, we did this exact thread almost verbatim about a year ago when he basically said there would be no more shows. I'm not holding my breath, but I still think there's a shot once it all dies down, Russell finishes his play and Jarvis gets bored again he'll wanna give it a try. I think the radio show and stuff like that offers stability so he can spend time with his family, but he is an artist like someone stated above and I doubt he's going to be satisfied with being idle for very long. And besides, if he IS going to record new material down the line, why not do it with the best backing band he could ask for?

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Because Candida, and possibly others might not want to

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Holden wrote:

To be fair, we did this exact thread almost verbatim about a year ago when he basically said there would be no more shows. I'm not holding my breath, but I still think there's a shot once it all dies down, Russell finishes his play and Jarvis gets bored again he'll wanna give it a try. I think the radio show and stuff like that offers stability so he can spend time with his family, but he is an artist like someone stated above and I doubt he's going to be satisfied with being idle for very long. And besides, if he IS going to record new material down the line, why not do it with the best backing band he could ask for?

 It's true but this time does seem more like the end (as much as I hate to say it). Particularly Candida's remark in that article - that if she were to return to Chile she wouldn't be touching a keyboard (or something of the sort). In Spanish was that remark less blunt than google translate makes out?



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When they announced Sheffield it really seemed like the final gig (of this reunion at least), especially as didn't Nick say something along the lines of a Sheffield gig being one of the last concerts they did? And there was a Day That Never Happened reference and the 'tissues optional'. But I guess when they announced the cruises a few days later it got my hopes up that they'd at least be up for a few more as it seemed an odd way to sign off. Didn't think about the whole 'sailing away' thing!

Can't really blame them for not being up for long, punishing tours or the other stuff that goes with promoting new material, plus there could be all sorts of factors at play we don't really know much about. Maybe they are enjoying just doing a few gigs here and there and would be happy to carry on in that vein, but they're very aware that they can't keep this reunion going indefinitely without new stuff.

Hopes of a warm-up gig sadly fading but PulpBristol's idea is a fantastic one. Am going to dig out old Pulp merchandise just in case, can't do any harm (unless I lose it on the Supertram).

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