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My missus just got back from the dress-rehersal of the Olympic opening ceremony. She didn't really tell me what she saw, everyone is in the spirit and keeping tight-lipped.

But she did tell me a little about what she heard. There was conspicuoucly no Oasis or Radiohead, or Pulp. A mere smattering of Blur's Song Two to represent a whole peroid that was - after all - milked for all its political capital. 

There were place holders in the run-through, to 'save the surprise'. 

Well, the other two are pretty major international exports, but Common People wouldn't be too out of place (even if the band were nowhere near).

Radiohead are hardly likely to lower themselves to this. Personally, an appearance by Oasis seems more likely, despite the split.

Or perhaps the Spice Girls...

Apparently it was Bowie heavy. It would be amazing if he appeared to provide a lyric or two. Has he performed since the heart attack?

Anyway, just thought I'd share that second-hand spoiler. Not that I've said anything that wasn't in the media already! It's the finale that is still unknown - they didn't run through that. 



-- Edited by superchob on Tuesday 24th of July 2012 08:48:02 PM

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I imagine Muse will perform considering they wrote the official song

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Superchob, B has performed...but only with other artists.

And Oasis (sans Noel) are doing Wonderwall at either the opening or closing ceremony.

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Ah I did wonder what went on, as a friend of mine and fellow Pulp fan was there and texted me to say I'd love it but she won't tell me any more

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Nothing like Liam Gallagher yowling every frat boy's drunken anthem. I suppose Wonderwall has more international appeal than Common People.

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Didn't Noel sing Wonderwall?

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Didn't Noel sing Wonderwall?


 Nah it was definitely Liam. Noel wrote it though. Then again I think he wrote most of their songs.



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fredthe3rd wrote:

Didn't Noel sing Wonderwall?


Noel used to sing it live often



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Was thinking of Don't Look Back in Anger I think. Oasis songs all merge into one for me apart from The Importance of Being Idle.

Can someone explain the title of this thread to me please?

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It's the Olympig rings done in quite a clever way.

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Nicky from the Manics said they turned it down - thank god!

Is Blur really still playing together after Damon slagged them off again?

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When did he slag them off? I know he said it was easier working with Graham than Dave and Alex - due to Graham still being a working musician, but more than that I've not read.

Anyway, they're doing a few warm up gigs and then doing Hyde Park. As well as releasing their fantastic new Double A Side on which there, surely, has to be at least one song that people will like!

Manics turned down the Olympics (being sport related) but happily appeared on Strictly Come Dancing (Bruce Forsyth related). Hmm...seems an odd case of double standards!

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I believe the Manics had prior touring commitments hence turning down the Olympics

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Aren't they meant to have disbanded for a few years break? Wasn't that what that big O2 concert was all about?

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Not quite disbanded...just not doing any new music for a while, I believe. They played a gig quite recently, I think...

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The Manics on 'hiatus' seem to do more gigs than some bands do at their peak!

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Orbit is a bit of an idiot. Re-phrase that, a MASSIVE idiot. He's tweeted rubbish about Blur and more specifically Damon ever since they stopped working with him, and the new single (if you've heard it of course, I'm a bit of a Blur fan as well as Pulp) I believe sounds much better than this below, which is the William Orbit version.



To me it sounds like they just wanted a new sound, and Graham has come out since and reiterated that. I don't blame them really, the WO version is auto-tuned to buggery.

I think the band comments were taken out of proportion too, I think he was trying to say that while him and Graham still do music regularly, Alex and Dave don't at all really - which is true. While it appears I am trying to protect him somewhat, I do think that Damon is probably a bit of an idiot to work with. I don't think it's a case of 'Damon hates the whole band' though.



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Dad reckons Led Zeppelin. Mum reckons the Stones. I reckon Bowie and Jagger reprising Dancing in the Street, with McCartney on piano and the remaining members of Queen and Pink Floyd sharing out the instruments between them. And Grace Jones spinning a hula hoop.

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My dad has a very elaborate idea that it will be British music through the ages; Starting with Cliff Richards then Paul McCartney with Pipes of Peace (possibly with Ringo on drums), Rolling Stones, Bowie and they will end with a child/ new band

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They'll end with a pretty child lip-synching the vocals of a hideously disfigured child.

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'Talking about Blur's future, Albarn said he didn't think there would be any more records or shows. Specifically, he said he could no longer collaborate with bassist Alex James and drummer Dave Rowntree in the studio: "I find it very easy to record with Graham [Coxon]. He's a daily musician. With the other two, it's harder for them to reconnect. You know what I mean? It's fine when we play live it's really magical still but actually recording new stuff, and swapping musical influences it's quite difficult."'

Its kinda hard to interpret that any way other than they're ostensibly no longer "good enough" to work with the almighty Sir Damon. Plus this gem:

'Dreams of Blur finally releasing a eighth album can rest easy for now: In the current issue of NME, producer William Orbit (who worked on Blur's album 13) said that he had been recording with the band, but that Damon Albarn halted sessions three weeks ago:
"The new stuff sounded amazing. Then it all stopped suddenly. It was all over with Damon, and the rest of the band were like, 'Is this it?'" The magazine highlights a Tweet by Orbit from the end of March, responding to a fan's query regarding new material: "Blur could have been good. But Damon, brilliant and talented though he is, is kinda a shit to the rest of Blur." '

Not that I think anyone's really surprised what a twat he still is, but can you imagine Jarvis saying something like that about the rest of Pulp? These are the people that made him famous. Does he think anyone cares about Rocket Juice and the Cow That Jumped Over the Moon or whatever half-assed ephemera he's releasing this week? But I digress.


Not sure what the exact reason was they declined, Nicky said something about "loving the sport but hating all the other nonsense" Hmmm. Have no idea what strictly come dancing is, I'm kinda too afraid to ask....


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I thoroughly agree that Damon can be a bit of a nob, but I really don't think he's said/done anything untoward with regards to Blur of late. As is well known, Damon and Graham are still gigging musicians. Alex is a farmer and Dave is a lawyer. Alex's musical skill has degenerated anyway - the bass parts on Under the Westway are distressingly dull!

And re: 'the nonsense', the Manics thought that the was a good idea:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_nTFbb6ALU

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I think UTW sounds a bit derivative of their other classics, and that line: "But I am going to sing Hallelujah Sing it out loud and sing it to you" Bleuh! Much prefer The Puritan.

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The Puritan is ace. The cheesy synth line is something Pulp would probably get laughed at for, mind.

Does he think anyone cares about Rocket Juice and the Cow That Jumped Over the Moon or whatever half-assed ephemera he's releasing this week?

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Yeah, I suppose it could have been taken out of context, it just seemed kind of belittling, you know?

Hrmm.... so it's a dancing-contest kind of show? Its pretty cheesy looking, but from what I saw doesnt look too dissimiliar from TOTP or late-night show thing. I'm sure somewhere Richey is crying, though. hmm



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Strictly Come Dancing is Dancing With The Stars. The title a mash up of Strictly Ballroom and an old British show called Come Dancing. Obviously they had to change the name for the rest of the world. I'm surprised to hear The Manics were on it.

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TOTP is about music, at least. 'Strictly..' is about Z list stars dancing with professional dancers. All compered by Bruce Forsyth. It seems he means nothing to you, so I'm going to assume you're American and thus suggest that you imagine the now senile Bill Cosby is hosting it.

Fred, the Manics' last album was "their last attempt at mass communication". Hence communicating through that I suppose. I don't have a problem with them appearing on it, but I do have a problem with them appearing on it and then slagging off the 'rubbish' around the Olympigs. Just seems a bit contrary.

But then again, it is the Manics...

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Nicky Wire is a tool.

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Well, if PulpBristol is a Blur apologist, I guess I'm a manics apologist. And yeah, I'm an american mildly obsessed with british culture, but there's a lot that falls outside my periphery. I think even they would admit its a shit show, but I guess the idea was to push Postcards through the most mainstream channels as possible, for better or for worse. Don't get me wrong, they've put out a lot of shit, but they've made (IMO) some of the greatest albums that are still really dear to me. And even if the new material doesnt always stand up (although Journal for Plague Lovers was great!) I still admire them for being the one "brit-pop"-esque band that kept going. They didnt just fade into obscurity or do the whole break-up/slag-each-other-off-then-happily-reunite-when-the-offers-became-lucrative-enough thing. Its kind why I would love to see another Pulp album, because even if it doesnt live up to the impossible standards we've probably set in our minds, it would be such a creatively daring risk and I would have so much respect for them taking it to that next level, and not just breaking up after the obligatory reunion tour was over. But we'll have to wait and see.



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Holden, I agree that "the idea was to push Postcards through the most mainstream channels as possible, for better or for worse" which I don't have a problem with. I just find it odd they could do Come Dancing but not want to do the Olympigs...

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I love a bit of strictly. i'm sure jarvis joked in an interview that he would do it

i'd love him having a shower in the waterfall in i'm a celeb a bit more though....

i've also been thinking that if pulp played the olympic opening ceremony i'd die a bit inside (yes i know/hope they are not doing it) but i'd LOVE to see him hump the monitors with billions of people watching the opening ceremony. do billions watch on tv?

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I suppose the main difference this time is the Manics have nothing to push whereas they had the record out when they did Strictly.

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I don't know who'll be performing, but the playlist throughout the opening sequence is shown below. Have to say that I don't think it's too bad. Certainly a few songs I'd dance to there, so it can't be bad. Bonus marks for getting the "c-word" played via Pretty Vacant.

Captain Algernon Drummond, William Johnson Cory - Eton Boating Song
Elgar, AC Benson - Land of Hope and Glory
The Jam - Going Underground
Muse - Map of the Problematique
Big Ben Chimes
Sex Pistols - God Save the Queen
The Clash - London Calling
Simon May - EastEnders Theme
The Shipping Forecast
Sir Hubert Parry, William Blake - Jerusalem
Elgar - Nimrod
Handel - Arrival of the Queen of Sheba
Eric Coates - Dambusters March
Handel - Music for the Royal Fireworks
Monty Norman - James Bond Theme
Mike Oldfield - Tubular Bells
Mike Oldfield - In Dulci Jubilo
Vangelis - Chariots of Fire
BBC News 1954
Arthur Wood - The Archers Theme
Winifred Atwell - Black and White Rag

PART TWO

Sugababes - Push the Button
OMD - Enola Gay
David Rose - The Stripper
Lionel Bart - Food Glorious Food
Irwin Kostal, Richard Sherman, Robert Sherman - Bedknobs and Broomsticks
Rizzle Kicks - When I Was a Youngster
Eric Clapton - Wonderful Tonight
Colin Tully - Gregorys Girl Theme
William Pitt - City Lights
The Who - My Generation
The Rolling Stones - Satisfaction
Millie Small - My Boy Lollipop
The Kinks - All Day and All of the Night
The Beatles - She Loves You
Mud - Tiger Feet
Led Zeppelin - Trampled Under Foot
The Specials - A Message to You Rudy
David Bowie - Starman
Queen - Bohemian Rhapsody
Sex Pistols - Pretty Vacant
Duran Duran - The Reflex
New Order - Blue Monday

PART THREE

Frankie Goes to Hollywood - Relax
Soul II Soul - Back To Life
Happy Mondays - Step On
Eurythmics - Sweet Dreams (Are Made of This)
The Verve - Bittersweet Symphony
Prodigy - Firestarter
Underworld - Born Slippy
Jaan Kenbrovin, John William Kellette - Im Forever Blowing Bubbles
Blur - Song 2
Dizzee Rascal - Bonkers
Tigerstyle - Nacnha Onda Nei (contains Michael Jackson - Billie Jean, Queen & David Bowie - Under Pressure and Ilaiyaraaja - Naanthaan Ungappanda)
Arctic Monkeys - I Bet You Look Good on the Dancefloor
Mark Ronson & Amy Winehouse - Valerie
Radiohead - Creep
Muse - Uprising
Kano & Mikey J - Random Antics
Tinie Tempah - Pass Out
MIA - Paper Planes
Coldplay - Viva La Vida
The Chemical Brothers - Galvanize

PART FOUR

Franz Ferdinand - Take Me Out
Kaiser Chiefs - I Predict a Riot
Roll Deep - Shake a Leg
Adele - Rolling in the Deep
Oasis - The Hindu Times
Oasis - Wonderwall
Emeli Sande - Heaven
William Monk/Henry Francis - Abide With Me
Pink Floyd - Eclipse
The Beatles - The End
The Beatles - Hey Jude
David Bowie - Heroes
Eric Spear - Coronation Street Theme
Ron Grainer - Doctor Who Theme
John Philip Sousa - Monty Python Theme/The Liberty Bell
David Bowie - Absolute Beginners

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Jesus - how long is it going to be?!

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Also 'Tubular Bells' is brilliant

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38% of Daily Telegraph readers feel that the above playlist is 'disrespectful noise'.

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I think the Manics are looking forward to the ceremony tonight...

"How I long for the days when the Olympics were about SPORT, not all this other tedious rubbish. I would rather watch 12hrs of Olympic water polo than the opening ceremony; at least it's sport xx"

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Sean?

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I believe that only Nicky tweets from the band account

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It was a joke :) I've never heard Sean have an opinion on anything!

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My mistake!

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I'm pleasantly surprised by that playlist - not what i'd choose but I was expecting way more of the x-factor lot. Saying that we still don't know who's going to be performing yet.

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On the subject, has anyone HEARD that Muse song? Good god in heaven. "Im gonnaWIIIIINNN I will NEVER LOOOOSSSE because I WILL WINNNNN always WINNING and WINWINIWN and then Losinnnnng justkiddingimeanttosayWINNNNN VENGENCEEEEEE IS MINNNEEE..."

Because if there's one thing the Olympics are known for  - its Venegence.



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It's directed by Danny Boyle so it was always going to have decent music.

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of all the radiohead songs.....

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They've got fucking Tiger Feet, this can't fail to be ace!

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of all the radiohead songs.....


 

Exactly my thought. However I spose some of the others aren't very 'crowd-friendly' either, and it's their most recognisable...



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Jazza wrote:

Jesus - how long is it going to be?!


 I'm watching it now - it's only small snippets of each song



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Careful Holden, you've got a hardcore Muser here... ;) They don't take most things seriously.

Well then, no one expected a 40ft tall Voldemort did they?

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I don't know about in the UK, but here they've been playing snippets of London Calling on all the commercials, but cutting out pretty much all of the lyrics that aren't "London calling". I guess they thought the apocalyptic imagery wasn't setting the right spirit...


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Haha, Tricia I've been saying the same thing. For a moment I wondered if anyone there actually knew the verses or just the catchy hook.

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Well done Danny Boyle for bigging up the NHS and getting a lesbian kiss shown in some middle eastern countries on TV for the first time! Tht was astounding in places.

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triciathetree wrote:

I don't know about in the UK, but here they've been playing snippets of London Calling on all the commercials, but cutting out pretty much all of the lyrics that aren't "London calling". I guess they thought the apocalyptic imagery wasn't setting the right spirit...


 It's like during Euro 2012, Kia had a sponsor ident thing every advert break using the Buzzcock's "Ever Fallen In Love", to sugggest you couldn't help but fall in love with their supermini hatchback, but I couldn't help myself from completing the sentence each time it came on.



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Well, normally i'm a bitter cynical old boot, but i fucking loved that opening ceremony..... apart from mccartney. but i loved the internet guy (too lazy to look up his name) and the social networking bit, and the kids lighting the flame, i nearly cried, but i had my hard face reputation to live up to

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what was wrong with Hey Jude - for me, that was a highlight. Beatles are by far the most iconic thing Britain has produced and the entire stadium (and beyond) singing along really showed the unity that the olympics are meant to represent. No other song could have done that and personally I thought it was heartwarming.

Did anyone else think it was ironic when the people who were carrying the olympic flag because of their attempts at keeping peace handed it over to the army? and I swear I saw a bloke in the crowd doing a Nazi salute when the German team came on.

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I enjoyed the unexpected bits of comedy: James Bond and (bad comedian) Rowan Atkinson - he wasn't quite Mr Bean was he? And felt weirdly proud when Dizzee was singing Bonkers, just can't fathom why.... And the torch lighting was monumentally badass. I recorded it and stayed up til 4.30 am watching it and only ffwded the French speech. Was expecting to ffwd vast chunks of it.

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You did see the Nazi salute! Apparently blamed on "stiff joints"...

I'd just like to appreciate that we had a 40ft Voldemort.

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I wish Atkinson had veered more towards Blackadder than Bean.

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Generally I prefer blackadder to bean but in this instance I think bean was the right call. It had to be funny in any language and it had to be quite simple. I thought it was funny. Maybe because it was unexpected but still funny. Rowan Atkinson can make a pretty basic idea really funny with the perfect expression. I was actually quite annoyed when Jarvis revealed in Mother Brother Lover that the 'bad comedian' was Rowan Atkinson.

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Having gone to an international school I can vouch that generally foreigners find Mr.Bean hilarious. Lots of my (none-british) friends really don't get blackadder though I prefer it.

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...and that Back and Forth thing they did for the Millennium Dome was fucking embarrassing.

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fredthe3rd wrote:

Generally I prefer blackadder to bean but in this instance I think bean was the right call. It had to be funny in any language and it had to be quite simple. I thought it was funny. Maybe because it was unexpected but still funny. Rowan Atkinson can make a pretty basic idea really funny with the perfect expression. I was actually quite annoyed when Jarvis revealed in Mother Brother Lover that the 'bad comedian' was Rowan Atkinson.


 Agreed. I have a soft spot for Atkinson and Bean. Never fully got into Blackadder but his stuff in NotTheNineOClockNews was great.



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Also I could have sworn blur were meant to be playing in the opening ceremony - did I just imagine that?



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Nothing wrong with Hey Jude, I love that song. But Paul McCartney makes me cringe these days. The only blessing was that he didn't do his hideous trademark thumbs up and gurn pose at the end.



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I was going to give my views on Blackadder and Mr Bean too, but the little voice in my head said 'only one opiniated rant at a time anet'

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I'm not quite sure what this is about, but seems to be an Olympic related event.

 

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Jazza wrote:

Also I could have sworn blur were meant to be playing in the opening ceremony - did I just imagine that?



-- Edited by Jazza on Sunday 29th of July 2012 10:47:38 AM


 

They're playing a closing ceremony concert @ Hyde Park.



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I thought the whole thing was mostly brilliant, too. Thought the live acts (McCartney and Oldfield // Dizzee Rascal and Arctic Monkeys) nicely divied up the old/young indie/grime categories.

Also, as Jazza said, Mr. Bean is enormous worldwide, so it made sense to include him. Thought it was quite a good sequence actually, especially given that Rowan Atkinson hasn't performed live in about 20-odd years now I think!

Enjoyed McCartney, too. A bit naff of course, but then again it is Macca. Thought the longer hair suited him quite well, too. Looking good for 70!

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I've seen him do stuff more recently than that. Both him on stage alone, I think he was a French waiter in one and a teacher taking registration in another. Neither were hilarious.

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Isn't the teacher taking registration from the late 80s or somesuch...?

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I might be getting mixed up. I've seen these retrospective clip shows, but I have definitely seen him do live more recently. I think there was a one where he was a priest as well.

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