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Stephen


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It was very hot then, yes. I left Paul Simon to go and watch Richard Hawley And Friend.

No drugs at V98, no. This actually happened!

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I wish I had, if I wasn't so knackered I would have gone over to Hawley too. Simon was a big letdown wasn't he? I was in such a bad way on that last day, I basically dozed in a chair until the sun went down. The minute there was shade when Eels were on I suddenly came alive!

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They treated you like that and asked you for directions?! Glad you got your own back, tossers. Two of the funniest people I've ever seen in a crowd were at the Pulp gig at Dalby forest. They were stood at the front near us for British Sea Power, dressed entirely in tweed and seemingly on ketamine.

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Stephen, where you upstairs or downstairs in Clwb Ifor Bach? Personally, it's one of my favourite venues.

At the RAH in March, this dick decided he deserved to be up front and tried pushing me and my friend from our positions during Babies & Disco. Genuinely the worst person I've seen do that at a gig, most people try to do it subtlety (as in put their hand on the barrier to pull them forward) but I usually end up stopping them. My favourite for that was when I saw Muse at Wembley Stadium in 2010, I'd queued since around 5:30am and a French girl tried slipping her fingers through and stealing my spot during White Lies, so whilst I was jumping and enjoying the set, I slammed an elbow on said fingers, she yelped and moved away.

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A guy I was next to when I went to see the Jesus and Mary Chain passed out on the rail and all these people tried to swarm his spot while he was lying unconscious instead of trying to help. I was like "Uh....really??"

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 I later found out they had flown from Italy to follow Adam on every date of his UK tour. Got my own back when I gave one the wrong directions to the train station and he missed the last train - I know this because he complained on the Ant People forums about me!

 

 

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Also, the whole "deserving" thing, so what if someone hasn't been a fan as long as others for whatever reason. If someone is dedicated enough to travel and queue all day (like at RAH, I woke up at 5am to travel from Wales and queue all day), then they deserve that spot over someone who's been a fan for however many years but turns up at doors and expects to just be let onto the barrier.

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Certainly, barriers are first come first served and people should respect that. 1st night Brixton I arrived normal time (well doors opening) and enjoyed dancing in the crowd. 2nd night we arrived early and got to the barrier. Halfway through Baxter Dury a young couple started weeding their way in initially with a hand resting on the barrier then as we danced coming in closer until we were all squashed up on the barrier. Very unimpressed but too polite to shout at them and potentially ruin our gig!

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Steven, I'd have shouted. Or done the traditional 'elbow on hand' thing.

I've been second row a few times. Yeah it's frustrating that you're not on the barrier, but most gigs if you get there an hour early, you can easily get on the barrier. Being late and expecting to get there is just Stupid and Rude.

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rawrsomesauce wrote:

Also, the whole "deserving" thing, so what if someone hasn't been a fan as long as others for whatever reason. If someone is dedicated enough to travel and queue all day (like at RAH, I woke up at 5am to travel from Wales and queue all day), then they deserve that spot over someone who's been a fan for however many years but turns up at doors and expects to just be let onto the barrier.

This won't be popular, but I disagree. I would never have the cheek to physically pull someone off the barrier (the Adam Ant thing done to Lauren was outrageous), but the fact is in once you're in a crowd you have to accept that no one really cares who queued up at what time to secure the right to stand in a particular spot. And if you are near the front, once the gig starts there is going to be a huge amount of movement around you anyway. You just have to accept it and stand your ground as best as possible and get on with enjoying the gig. Sorry, but I am one of those who people who is very polite and well mannered in all other social situations, except when my favourite band is playing a gig. Then I am possessed with the desire to get as close as possible and no one is standing in my way. Without the use of violence of course. And I do leave the front barrier alone because it restricts your movement and stops you dancing.



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Maybe I'm getting old but I really don't get this need to get to the front of gigs. I'd prefer to stand back and enjoy the music rather than getting jumped on by some idiot singing/shouting terribly along to the hits

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Shotoki - if I can't get to the front, I'd rather be at the back than anywhere else. I like the front - you can see all the minutae going on that makes a gig so interesting, you can shout at the band (!) and sometimes you even get them holding your hand and singing into your face (a la Jarvis with Sheffield Sex City).

My main problem at the back is being surrounded by people who seem to not want to be there at all!

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I understand that it means a lot to some people to be at the barrier so I'd never try to push them away - myself ending up at the barrier at Adam Ant was just 'cause I turned up early due to poor planing. I planned on moving to the back once it got a bit too sweaty and pushy for me and only argued out of principled really. You get some people who hold on for dear life. Some need to realised that once everyone starts dancing it can be difficult to control where you end up and as much as you love your sweet spot centre front it's not the end of the world if you move to make someone else more comfortable.

Thanks to surgeries I'm past it now and have to sit anyway -_- I'm always praying the row in front of me doesn't decide to stand.

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Liltman, I think I made the right decision with Hawley over Simon, although I was worried about hearing Simon had done a full Simon & Garfunkel set or something. But, of course, he didn't.

Hawley and Duane Eddy were excellent. A full set's worth of dancing.

And yes, I came alive for Eels again too!

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Shotoki - if I can't get to the front, I'd rather be at the back than anywhere else. I like the front - you can see all the minutae going on that makes a gig so interesting, you can shout at the band (!) and sometimes you even get them holding your hand and singing into your face (a la Jarvis with Sheffield Sex City).

My main problem at the back is being surrounded by people who seem to not want to be there at all!

 Some good points there, I know the front has its benefits. I just thought RAH was surprisingly enjoyable sitting down and I hate all that pushing around (like at Wireless).



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I'm definitely more on the side of the Westboro Baptish Church than Dave Grohl and his shitty post-grunge band with gurning dwarves in their videos. Everlong is the shittest song of all time, beyond even That Fucking Song by Elbow.



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You'd rather be on the side of a church that pickets the funerals of soldiers than Dave Grohl just because of his band?

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Not to mention the picketing of gay and Jewish intuitions...

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Stephen


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God Hates Fags, but not as much as Paul hates Dave Grohl, it seems?

Hmm...contentious.

Weej - you've got the Golden Spot in the wrong place. It's by the 51 year old man in the white suit, black tie and stash of paper aeroplanes.

Unless you're at the Manics, I suppose.

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Stephen wrote:

 I like the front - you can see all the minutae going on that makes a gig so interesting, you can shout at the band (!) and sometimes you even get them holding your hand and singing into your face (a la Jarvis with Sheffield Sex City).

 ...or the "just as long as you save a piece for me" part of "DYRTFT?"  

one of the best moments of my life (2:22):

 



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Whoever did that video has a very steady hand

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yes, they do. i wish they (or anyone) would've done a full video of "this is hardcore" from night one at radio city. it was truly, truly one of the most amazing/beautiful/spectacular things i've ever been witness to. seriously.

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Ruby, did he shag the speakers again?

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I had bruised ribs for some time after the Brid Spa gig in 95 from being against the railings.

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