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Due to the nature of Premspeak 1 being a 'magazine on tape' a lot of the tracks bleed into one with commentaries from Paul Mills. Thus he sent the digitised files to me as two tracks - Side One and Side Two. I've split them into their component parts last night - highlights include two J&R interviews, the Ping Pong version of Maureen...and Ogy McGrath (from Dig Vis Drill) having a pop at Jarvis. (Jarvis got a right to reply on Premspeak 2!)

I aim to upload the lot tonight or tomorrow...hopefully with a few words of introduction from Paul himself.

The J & R interview hasn't been circulated before and is part of a much larger piece. The rest of it will have to wait 'til the relevant Portfolio gets revamped though, as I'm keen to get Premspeak circulated. One of the main reasons Paul's agreed to make so much stuff is available is to get his old Premspeaks back into circulation and I see no reason why I shouldn't do that as swiftly as is humanly possible!



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Excellent news Stephen.

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Just been giving it a listen on my way over to place of work #2.

The Jarvis & Russell interview is excellent - Paul gets Jarvis to talk through a potted history of Pulp, and then asks for his opinions on every Pulp record (including the compilations) to date. Not sure if this was used in Mark Sturdy's book or not, but it's great all the same.

Especially enjoyable is Pulp's own fear that Fire will drop them on hearing the new disco sounds, and also J & R's excitement at the forthcoming release of 'Master of the Universe' - stating it's their best single to date...the start of the new era...wonderful B Side in 'Manon' etc.

Funny how these details passed them by in the years to come!

The Ogy McGrath thing is pretty distasteful and he comes across as not a very nice chap, I must say!

The track that follows Pulp is pretty wonderful, though. "The Best Holiday I Ever Had" is like an even trashier 'Preposterous Tales in the Life of Ken McKenzie'.

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Another thought re: this. I'll be making this available as a zipped file on sendspace...but might someone be able to host the tracks permanently? It would be nice to provide a permanent link to them from the Premspeak 1 page on the Wiki, and it is something that Paul would like to see happen.

Any thoughts...anyone...?

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Excellent. I'm looking forward to this.

It might be possible to host the files on the PulpWiki server. Do you know roughly what the total file size is?

I'm usually wary about including audio files due to copyright issues, but problems seem unlikely in this case.



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Will! Good to hear from you! Wasn't sure you'd pick up on this thread, so that's good news.

The file sizes are pretty small. The mp3s were something like 15MB for each side of the tape, and they're no bigger than around 3 or 4MB for each track.

Paul says "As I've not had time to develop the Premonition tapes blog I'm handing over all the Pulp related stuff to you so people can get to hear it...and enjoy!"

Before this I was just going to do the usual sendspace thing as stated, but now think that maybe the Wiki could help take up some of the slack? If there are any problems, then do let me know and I'll make other arrangements.

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That's fine. When you're ready, send me the files and I'll add them as soon as I can. There is already a 'Premspeak 1' page to put them on.



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Enjoy all! I sent the files to Will, and they're now online at the Premspeak page!

In an effort to get you to listen to the whole thing in context, it's available in one big clump. Please try and find the time to listen to all the songs - it is wortwhile!

1. St Limbo - A New Strength
Instrumental by a London band. Interesting enough, but no great shakes.

2. 20 minute interview with Jarvis and Russell + Maureen (Ping Pong Jerry demo version)
I've split this into three parts and detailed it above. Wonderful stuff!

3. The Wealthy Texans - The Best Holiday I Ever Had
This is my new favourite song.

4. The mouth opens
Dubious and possibly homophobic stylings from Ogy McGrath (Dig Vis Drill)

5. The Nihilistics - My Heart Goes A-Flutter
Paul Mill's band. Featuring the legendary Pete Fuck of the Fuck City Shitters (best band name ever). I like the idea of this song, but not sure it works too well given the quality of the recording!

Side 2

1. Media:Premonition - Targets
Paul Mills' earlier band. This is a really pleasant song. Some very nice melodies.

2. Heather For Fish - Favourite Dream
I quite like this. Another very pleasant listen.

3. Mausoleum - Across the Land, Across the Sea
Not amazing...

4. Dig Vis Drill - interview + Fix the Kitchen
Fascinating interview with a guy who clearly thinks he's on the verge of success - and that he deserves the success - but is about to be brought down to harsh reality. Sad to see someone so driven and passionate eventually laid low, but the song isn't really up to the speech! Few Pulp references in the interview

5. The Gallery - Soon
Another Paul Mills band. Featuring Clyde Hatter - he who recorded dozens of 80s Pulp gigs, of which all but one have disappeared. This is a gorgeous track!



-- Edited by Stephen on Thursday 31st of May 2012 01:53:09 PM

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Good job, I'll listen later.

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No one else downloaded yet? Yr missing a treat!

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Well if you're going to get so needy about it...

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I downloaded it the other day, still haven't had time to listen to it though. Probably will on the bus to work tomorrow.

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Have listened to the interview, natch, and what immediately strikes me is that Russell and Jarvis agree on nothing. Russell is so belligerent in that interview saying the band he saw at the Crucible had sold out and should have split up immediately. He certainly doesn't pull any punches. It really does lend weight to the theory that inner tensions within a band can lead to great creativity because neither of them seem to be reading the same book nevermind being on the same page!

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All good points! Also note similarly how he states the It tracks "didn't mean anything" to which J replied that, erm, they did actually! R's actually much less belligerant in the interview out takes.

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Had a quick listen. Having noted the comparisons betweeen him and Scott Walker, I wonder if Jarvis had gotten into his music at this point. I think he's been quoted before as saying he spent a weekend sick in bed listening to Walker's music and couldn't believe how good it was. It may have been after this interview.
Thanks for making it available Stephen. That Ogy McGrath (you don't pronounce the ''th'', English people!) is quite a character in'e?

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Ogy is indeed quite a character! I'm sure you've worked out by now that the career - indeed, even the 2nd single - never actually happened. Poor sod. So much energy and passion resulting in failure. Grim. Btw re: McGrath my Nan lived next to a McGrath family in Tipperary in the 1920s and has always pronounced it with the 'th'!

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I believe in Ogy's case it's pronouned without the "th".

Very interesting and entertaining bloke - he's in my book loads, probably more than can be justified by anything other than the fact he's endlessly quotable. As you might have guessed, there's barely any interviewing required: you can pretty much just turn the tape recorder on and he's off for an hour!



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It's crap!

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...it's not! It's awesome!

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Mark, what became of Ogy? Also, how'd you manage to track him down? Even his old bandmate on the digvisdrill page doesn't seem to have a clue what happened to him!

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Martin Lilleker gave me his number. I don't know if anything really "happened" to him as such - he was still in Sheffield (this was in 1997 but I think he still is), dabbling in this and that. He'd been an agent for a while, for Quentin Crisp and John Cooper Clarke. There's a bit of recent footage of him on YouTube, doing something or other in Sheffield Library.

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Sorry, back to the pronunciation thing. I fear your nan was wrong, Stephen. McGrath is a common Irish surname (the finest ever Irish footballer Paul McGrath was the second black Irish celebrity after Phil Lynott) and I've never heard it pronounced with the ''th''.

On a similar note, "Ger" (short for 'Gerard') is a popular name here, moreso among males of my Dad's generation and I always find it funny how British people pronounce it as "Grr" instead of "Jer".

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28 downloads so far.

This is the direct download link, in case anyone hasn't found it:
http://pulp.ws/pulpwiki/wikimedia/Premspeak%20One.rar



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Stephen wrote:

Ogy is indeed quite a character! I'm sure you've worked out by now that the career - indeed, even the 2nd single - never actually happened. Poor sod. So much energy and passion resulting in failure. Grim. Btw re: McGrath my Nan lived next to a McGrath family in Tipperary in the 1920s and has always pronounced it with the 'th'!

 My boss at work used to know him.. he's always pronounced it without the th when talking about him.



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Glad to see it's circulating. I gave Paul Mills a little hat tip in the Russell interview too. Gratuitous I know, but I think the Premspeak thing was wonderful and deserves to be remembered.

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