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Will!

Is it possible to have the dates of the signings on the (publicly viewable) petition? I presume you have access to those figures, but it would hopefully show an interesting swell in support over time which might inspire peoples' interest...?

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Ok, I've posted on Estranged Friends which is an eels forum.

I'll post on some other forums as well...

Type 'Pulp we love life petition' into Google, it'll swell your heart.

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But only one entry on Google news...

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Will!

Is it possible to have the dates of the signings on the (publicly viewable) petition? I presume you have access to those figures, but it would hopefully show an interesting swell in support over time which might inspire peoples' interest...?


 I tweeted some last night and was going to tweet again today. Think we could retweet tweets on 'our' page so it fills up.

Would anyone appose retweeting. Saw some tweets last night about this



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Go for it with the retweets, I say!

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I tweeted some last night and was going to tweet again today. Think we could retweet tweets on 'our' page so it fills up.

Would anyone appose retweeting. Saw some tweets last night about this


 It's like a foreign language to me but I say go for it!



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http://jiboneus.com/2012/05/04/pulp-day-of-action-for-a-reissued-deluxe-version-of-we-love-life/



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I'm taking credit for that one, too. Good work on spotting it, though!

That was one of, I think, four webzines I emailed yesterday. I Googled ones that had mentioned Pulp recently, and looks like I got a good hit!

Anything on the 6Music front yet? Anyone texted in?

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Its taking forever but I'm putting a comment under each amazon review of the album!

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Good Lord, that's dedication!

I would suggest that texting into Radio 6 might be a better bet, though. If just one of those is successful, it'd have a massive reach compared to the handful of people a week who'd read an amazon review...

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Just fired off an email to lamacq.6music@bbc.co.uk

In his recommended albums section he's got a Richard Hawley album.

Should we bombard him?

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Retweeted a few tweets.



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Ah, I see re: Amazon emails. Fair play, chap!

I would suggest bombarding Lamaq, yes.

For all presenters, text on 64046, but only when they're broadcasting.

13:00 Marc Radcliffe/Maconie - text on 64046, email radcliffe.maconie@bbc.co.uk
16:00 Steve Lamaq - email lamacq.6music@bbc.co.uk
19:00 Tom Ravenscroft - thomas.6music@bbc.co.uk
22:00 Not likely to be a Pulp fan!
00:00 Stuart Maconie - stuart.6music@bbc.co.uk

LET'S DO THIS. YEAH!!!



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Stephen wrote:

Will!

Is it possible to have the dates of the signings on the (publicly viewable) petition? I presume you have access to those figures, but it would hopefully show an interesting swell in support over time which might inspire peoples' interest...?


 Good idea. The date is now displayed.



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Not doing badly. Fourth highest total so far for May, and it's only the 4th! Hadn't realised it was the 4th. This is the 12th anniversary of the first ever gig I played. I shook maracas and had bandages wrapped around my face. True story.

63 Oct
80 Nov
31 Dec
26 Jan
26 Feb
29 Mar
59 Apr
44 May

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Have texted Mr. Radcliffe. Join in the coercion at 64046!

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Texted.

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Is anyone listening to 6 Music today by any chance...?

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63 Oct, 80 Nov, 31 Dec, 26 Jan, 26 Feb, 29 Mar, 59 Apr, 54 May

Just had ten sign in the last half hour or so...

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Well, they're coming from somewhere! 56 now for May...

30 to go 'til we reach 400 in total.

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Maybe we got on radio then! Can't listen I'm at work.

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What about radio 2?

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Nothing really relevant on there today.

Unless you fancy getting 'Fairground' played, that is...?

19:0020:00
Desmond Carrington: The Music Goes Round
04/05/2012
Desmond plays songs and music related to the theme 'fairground attractions'.


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well done you lot! Fred could you change the video name to remove the '.mov'?

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Steve Lamacq's on now. Text him!

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Despite working all day I've been on duty. Text radio 6 a few times to no avail. Just text lamacq a few times, we'll see if he mentions. got one from northwestbands, and even my mum signed

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Good work, chap!

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Texted - I am slightly overcome by 2 lovely people on the Pop will eat itself forum - one said "not my cup of tea but will sign it" and another said "not listened much since his n hers but will sign" - How super cute is that?


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Some people are never happy... Can I remove .mov without re-uploading?

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Well, I've had plenty of views on the forums I've posted the petition on but no replies. I just hope that everyone that views will sign the petition, it doens't even take that long. By the way, I was just thinking; has anyone bothered to tell Universal Music what we're doing?

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Well there's been a shit load of extra signatures today which is good, seems to have died down a bit down though.

Did anyone listen to the radio shows?

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Just fired off a text to Tom Ravenscroft.

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Is the idea to get the signatures and then approach Universal? Or Pulp?

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We are drowned in sound! Seems to be as a result of the god tv site. http://drownedinsound.com/community/boards/music/4340699

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it's a shame they haven't put a direct link to the petition

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Stephen wrote:

Is the idea to get the signatures and then approach Universal? Or Pulp?


 Universal. Pulp already asked them about it and they politely declined.



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Does anyone with a Drowned in Sound account want to reply to those people and explain what we're up to...?

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Eamonn wrote:
Stephen wrote:

Is the idea to get the signatures and then approach Universal? Or Pulp?


 Universal. Pulp already asked them about it and they politely declined.


How do you know that?  Was it in the press?



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Mr Webber told me about it last year.

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Presumably Universal didn't think it would be a financially lucrative exercie...?

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Ah screw Universal.

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That's my Professional opinion (geddit)

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A bit of studio time to spruce up the demos (has enough changed in ten year for the album itself to warrant much remastering?) and then marketing and packaging costs. After that it's profit. No advances to the band, writing-off another month of studio time (of which Pulp spent a lot for both the last records) in expenses etc.

Reissues and back-catalogue excavating are one of the few guranteed revenue streams for record labels these days - witness the amount of unlikely reissues there have been in recent years; that's why we started this petition in the first place. By spreading the word as people on here have done this week, a solid amount of sales for a WLL deluxe shouldn't be too difficult to achieve.

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Eamonn wrote:

A bit of studio time to spruce up the demos (has enough changed in ten year for the album itself to warrant much remastering?) and then marketing and packaging costs. After that it's profit. No advances to the band, writing-off another month of studio time (of which Pulp spent a lot for both the last records) in expenses etc.

Reissues and back-catalogue excavating are one of the few guranteed revenue streams for record labels these days - witness the amount of unlikely reissues there have been in recent years; that's why we started this petition in the first place. By spreading the word as people on here have done this week, a solid amount of sales for a WLL deluxe shouldn't be too difficult to achieve.


 I suspect that the deluxe editions didn't sell that well.  Fopp were selling the His n Hers one for £2 each at one point and had a very big pile of them.



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There's always a surplus of albums in bargain bins these days even by the biggest artists when it's been a few years since release.

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How did we do? We didn't do bad... I've got to admit to a little disappointment, although people are still signing today, with things like forums people might just look in once a week or something so there might be a slight long term effect. we didn't bring the Internet to its knees (always going to be tough!) but we did boost signatures.

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We've suffered from the same kind of voter apathy that infects modern politics!

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Number of signatures per day:

28/10/11 8
29/10/11 27
30/10/11 15
31/10/11 13
01/11/11 8
02/11/11 4
03/11/11 6
04/11/11 7

Between these dates anything between 0 and 5 per day.

30/04/12 11
01/05/12 11
02/05/12 9
03/05/12 7

04/05/12 55

05/05/12 18
06/05/12 11

I managed to get three people signing by posting on the Folksy forum which is a craft website, so there's lots of places on the internet not just music sites that we could infiltrate.

I have to admit that I tried and failed to get on to the Divine Comedy forum, jept hitting error messages, anyone on that forum? 



-- Edited by fredthe3rd on Sunday 6th of May 2012 05:58:53 PM



-- Edited by fredthe3rd on Monday 7th of May 2012 09:35:20 PM

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I posted it on a livejournal community I am a member of; maybe a couple of folks will sign.

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55 extra votes may not be the success we were hoping for but I think it's something to be proud of. Especially considering the hardcore PULP fans would've already signed.

I chatted to my friend who works at Universal at the weekend. He said it was highly unlikely a petition would get the tracks released, unless there were thousands of signatures.

However... he did say that it's likely the tracks will get released someday... From time to time a record company will look through the unreleased tracks they own and see if any money can be made. He thought that a big box set would be most probable/profitable.

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would they be able to make a big box set since half the albums are owned by Fire?

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From what I hear, Pulp (i.e. Jarvis) has been found to be 'not keen' on the idea of an Anthology type of thing...

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Well all the other six albums have now been reissued with unreleased material ( 90's material on the Universal deluxes in 2006, 80's stuff on Fire this year) so it's only the 1999-2001 and pre-It eras where sizeable amounts of unheard songs exist.

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Would any boxset include Intro? I'd hope so

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Perhaps they'd do a box set of the 4 "big" albums? They'd be more likely to package more albums together for higher margins - considering realistically it wouldn't shift a huge amount of copies...

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Again though, with the three big albums having already got the deluxe treatment I'm not sure what more they could sell to us from those eras - demos of the album tracks would be the best thing but even they would be of limited interest. That just leaves radio session/live tracks most of which we would already have.

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Hows about printing flyers and handing them out outside gigs?

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Signings by day!

 

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You beautiful bastard!

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Erm...thanks. I think.

I like graphs.

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dixie999 wrote:

Hows about printing flyers and handing them out outside gigs?


 

Jazza had some designed before one of the book signings. When they do more UK dates we could have some ready for that.



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Hello bar italia folks. Been on holiday (in the UK strangely enough) for two and a half weeks and missed out on all this. Will 'do my bit' later this week when I have a break from work. Well done all of you!

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Getting close to that 500!



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If anyone's on MySpace you could post a message on JarvSpace.

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Is myspace still on the go?

If each of the 500 pledge to buy two copies - one for themselves and one as a Christmas/Birthday pressie for their brother/cat, will that be enough?

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Given how many people claim to be fans of Pulp and go to their gigs I don't really understand why they can't just take a few seconds to sign the petition.

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Because they don't know about it!

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How can you be a Pulp fan and a) not know about this board and b) not know about Pulpwiki?

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Some people like listening to the music and seeing them live but aren't bothered about reading about them all the time.

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There are of acts I love that I just care if they have a website or a message board. This is the only one I bother with really. Potential people who sign could be anywhere really. The youtube video was a good idea as long as you get the tags right so it comes up in the correct searches. I think you've only put 3 tags on there - but I'd start at, "Pulp, common people, rare, 2012, unreleased, demo, Jarvis Cocker, disco 2000, we love life, deluxe (and so on and so on) and you'll probably find a few more hits there.

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I'm on it.

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I'm all over that shit.

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Yes, Youtube tags. Good idea!

And yes, I second that emotion. This is also the only band message board I post on. I look at the Blur and Suede ones occasionally, but am not a member.

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I was just lo

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Yeah, cheers for that.

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Bloody phones... I was just looking at the Blur forum and there's no mention that I can see of the petition on there. Someone here must be a member.

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weed wrote:

There are of acts I love that I just care if they have a website or a message board. This is the only one I bother with really. Potential people who sign could be anywhere really. The youtube video was a good idea as long as you get the tags right so it comes up in the correct searches. I think you've only put 3 tags on there - but I'd start at, "Pulp, common people, rare, 2012, unreleased, demo, Jarvis Cocker, disco 2000, we love life, deluxe (and so on and so on) and you'll probably find a few more hits there.


 It's occurred to me that you were looking at the second video which has three tags rather than the third and final which had a few but I've also added the ones you suggested.

The final version is here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOTQ9Zk8t-c



-- Edited by fredthe3rd on Monday 21st of May 2012 11:21:40 PM

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